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Sparkey 'Sparks' Tyrell
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:20:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Zainawa Barviainen wrote: Indeed
Slander for one. No i just found it n though people should know as it's unfair and untrue.
It's pretty disgusting tbfh
It all looks pretty true to me, can you clarify what you see as "unfair and untrue"? Agreed, everything in there looked pretty true and factual to me. Something can only be libelous if it's false. No. Even entirely true statements can be libelous if they are intended to harm the reputation of somebody for no other reason but to cause harm. The defenses to slander / libel (now usually referred to as defamation) is substantial truth and in the public interest or good. If you know your married boss is rooting his secretary and you post it all over the internet, even if he is rooting his secretary, if you broadcast that for the express purpose of causing him harm that could be considered defamation. Since we're throwing around legal-speak around here, the burden of proof for libel is very high. You'd have to prove that this individual was out to hurt CCP as opposed to making an attempt at warning off parents and expressing personal frustration. Have a look here to see what I mean: http://www.reputationhawk.com/onlinedefamation.html Well yeah, that would be the "in the public interest part". If you could show that you were likely just trying to warn parents with kids away from the game then that would be a defense. But it'd still have to be truthful which its not.
The burden of proof is who has to prove, I think you mean the standard of proof, but that's usually "on the balance of probability" since its defamation.
I'm not lawyer although I am a qualified para-legal who has never worked in law lol. Just did the study for something to do after fractured both feet at work. I'm a security dog handler.
Also I'm Infinity Ziona, just changed chars. |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
94
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:In Goonswarm, we're all about corrupting children.
Huh. I thought you all were corrupted children already. |
SFM Hobb3s
Vanguard Frontiers Black Legion.
48
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:24:00 -
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Not as funny as the Veet for Men reviews Veet for Men Hair removal, but still a good laugh. |
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:25:00 -
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Zainawa Barviainen wrote:
Free speech, ever hear of it? Your entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong you may be.
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Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1812
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:29:00 -
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Quote:The average age in game is high, about 28.
But sadly it doesn't show...
Quote:A group called SomethingAwful (search internet, CEO is in jail) largely controls the game at the moment and will have access to your child.
*sigh* If only...
Quote:They run the largest in game entity called GoonSwarm, (youtube, somethingawful forums).
This sick organizations members and CCP are extremely perverted and have inundated the game with inappropriate player content. Their members have a majority of the Game Manager positions working for CCP in Iceland and ignore all parental complaints.
Well this is kinda true, but they're confusing "Game Manager" with the CSM.
Quote:Your child will be exposed to: Inappropriate chat discussions Inappropriate voice discussions (both the games integrated voice chat, teamspeak, and ventrilo) Links to **** sites in chat Sexual stories from other players
Yeah, let me know when you find anyplace on the entire internet where this doesn't happen.
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:31:00 -
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Quote:Inappropriate Jokes to include: Racism, Sex, Politics, Drugs. Your child will "hear" people doing drugs. Your child will "hear" people drunk. CCP the maker of eve will broadcast fanfest events through the ingame voice system. Your child will hear inappropriate things during their presentations. While flying through space systems your child will see and be overwhelmed with content named with inappropriate names. I once saw someone had their ships out and they were all named a modified version of *****.
See above and also, I think Freud would have to say something about half the ships in this game. Welcome to Flying Dildos Online. What else is new?
Quote:You will not be able to protect your child: There is "No" in-game method or mechanism to shield your child from this player content. There are "No" chat filters The same person that posts links to **** will be talking to your child
True, we all have to deal with the ISDs, but so what?
Quote:Just for a simple comparison for parents if I had to choose the lesser of two evils between Grand Theft Auto and Eve Online I would have to go with Grand Theft Auto.
That's some fine parenting right there, yep. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:49:00 -
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Quote:CCP communicates and promotes a sexual, perverted, profane and drunken adult social community in this game. No they don't. That's ridiculous
Quote:Bars and Night clubs are coming out within a year. Reviewer posted this in March 2009. Still waiting for the bars.
Quote:View their fanfest 2008 dominination video on youtube to real people getting their heads blown off. WTF? This poster has been dropping Mindflood.
And all three of these samples come from a single line from the review. This review is so hysterically over-the-top, readers probably think it was submitted by CCP's unethical competitor. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:17:00 -
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The review isn't against UK law.
It's a review of a game, and the UK has free speech (with certain limitations). If the reviewer had written "everyone at CCP are murderers" (or similar) then it could be considered libel and CCP would at least have grounds to have the review removed, but it doesn't. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
272
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:19:00 -
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Who trusts a review posted on Amazon? That site has countless positive reviews about how amazing Keurig machines are at making coffee! I got one for Christmas last year and it's so good at brewing coffee that I switched to drinking tea. Online reviews are as useful for judging a product as GD is for learning how to play EvE. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15060
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:00:00 -
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Zainawa Barviainen wrote: Speaking of drivel... you sound like a reader of the Daily Mail.
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Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:13:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the part about CCP promoting drug abuse and alcoholism is true. I have never seen a larger group of dope heads and drunkards in my life. Also the chat that goes on is pretty much x rated. People posting ***** picks every third line in public chat rooms. Local always descends into homophobic slurs.
EVE should be rated AO for adults only for obvious reasons.
Even the forums are toxic. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:19:00 -
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Get this crap out of my "player experience" and into a medieval court system where it belongs... where is Doc Fury when we need him ?
Working as intended; suck it up, Princess.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
4464
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:24:00 -
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CCP should make this person a promoter for EVE.
Seriously... based on that description I would totally play whatever game he/she is ranting about.
And here's the best part... the more this person puts out the word against the game, the more the Streisand_effect comes into play... because who wouldn't be curious after something like that. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Old Phill
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:55:00 -
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Goonswarms CEO is in jail news to me i wonder how he plays then if he plays |
Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:06:00 -
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Zainawa Barviainen wrote:
There are no law for this, its his opinion nothing special about it. 1 bad review is still a review in his eyes. Some people will indeed try to advoide it but let be honost if you have read it you want to play it to make sure he is right? right? in mine opinion i want to find if he is right or not.
So even its a bad "opinion" this will increase people to play. And some people still playing today sins this review is out. Don`t worry eve online will not die because of his opinion.
I have seen 200 reviews from 5 to 10 stars and some 1/50 are bad review. So what! leave it by that. Go play man and enjoy the game. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Itinerant Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:32:00 -
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I'm surprised that a complaint about "offensive player content" in EVE doesn't make a single mention of the n word to be quite honest. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:37:00 -
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Ban this sick filth. |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
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Posted - 2013.12.28 01:48:00 -
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Why do I have a feeling the 19 people who checked they found the review "helpful" where cheeky Eve players.
Besides, that rant made me want to play the game even more. Anyone else think the complaints that weren't all tinfoil hattery where mostly all good things anyway? |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2013.12.28 02:00:00 -
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Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:I'm surprised that a complaint about "offensive player content" in EVE doesn't make a single mention of the n word to be quite honest.
Naglfar? |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.28 02:11:00 -
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Great read, Im sure no kid will ever want to play eve after reading that
I mean explicit lyrics labels on CDs never helped sell them. |
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.12.28 02:12:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Zainawa Barviainen wrote: Speaking of drivel... you sound like a reader of the Daily Mail.
But the stories on Page 3 are so educational |
Major Xadi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.28 02:30:00 -
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CCP should nerf 5 year old customer reviews. |
Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok.
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:09:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:I'm surprised that a complaint about "offensive player content" in EVE doesn't make a single mention of the n word to be quite honest. Naglfar?
Ner..... Phoenix? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:18:00 -
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I don't think an old review by someone who so obviously doesn't understand the rating system and how it (doesn't) apply to online content is going to damage EVE in the slightest. In fact, it probably helps it in this case... especially when people also look at the poor rating that was given to his rant and the multitude of comments pointing out the reviews multitude of mistaken assumptions.
The main mistaken assumption being that the things he observed somehow are at odds with the games ratings, and his obvious attempt to ignore all positive aspects of the game or community. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:23:00 -
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Zainawa Barviainen wrote:
When did posting an opinion become illegal?
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:57:00 -
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I don't know why CCP work so hard to keep that teen rating. They don't sell through traditional retail channels anymore.
Xavier Higdon wrote:Who trusts a review posted on Amazon? That site has countless positive reviews about how amazing Keurig machines are at making coffee! I got one for Christmas last year and it's so good at brewing coffee that I switched to drinking tea. Online reviews are as useful for judging a product as GD is for learning how to play EvE.
You should have sold the Keurig machine while it was still new in the box and purchased a nice burr grinder and coffee press. npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.28 05:23:00 -
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Jill Chastot wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:I'm surprised that a complaint about "offensive player content" in EVE doesn't make a single mention of the n word to be quite honest. Naglfar? Ner..... Phoenix? grr, omegafleet ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
Logical 101
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.12.28 05:29:00 -
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It's fairly clear the review was written by someone with no real experience with online games. I hate to bring it up, but when I stopped playing Warcraft somewhere near the end of the last decade, pretty much every general chat channel was filled with the most vile, racist, ignorant, trollish, hateful garbage you can imagine. And plainly put, I consider it a game predominantly geared toward younger gamers. You find this in every online environment - FPS, MMO, limited multiplayer formats, coop formats, all of it.
"Your child" is the dead giveaway.
This is what modern society likes to call the "voice of the concerned parent", and whether the review itself is legitimate (in that the sentiment behind it is real) or not, this is very much what I would expect to hear (and often do hear) from people who have little to nothing to do with online interaction in competitive gaming environments. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.12.28 06:05:00 -
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Um
Yeh this link
CCP should remove this thread
Or sue Zainawa Barviainen for posting this drivel.
This breaks my brain.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9568
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Posted - 2013.12.28 06:21:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Zainawa Barviainen wrote: Speaking of drivel... you sound like a reader of the Daily Mail.
Nah, OP didn't say anything about house prices, too much immigration, something that has been found to give you cancer or something that the evil BBC has been up to. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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