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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.28 13:16:00 -
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Hi guys, After months have passed and now I see eve much better and according to this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2562346#post2562346
Here are my new suggestions .
@I would still like to see aliens alien technology and unique stuff like that or even ancient gods that were in universe !
@Custom design for ships like flags ,colors etc that would require skills or corps that could change the exterior of the ship but would take some days for this to be done.
@Better player vs player (one vs one) PVP and not ganks vs player players vs player or players vs players only
@Unique manutafacturing stuff that would be based on low chances of creating them from another object
@Skill synergy :What that means ?For example if someone wants a combat character only based on projectile turrets he could have some bonuses 1-2% from related skill in time.
@New weapon system which lead to new ships new skills new race maybe
@Force fields in ships that will bring a new mod system except low med high and rigs something liek that
@Weapons that will bring PVP able to be fought in distances and not only in 10-15km like a long range webfier,scrambler or stuff like that or removal of the scramblers and if a ship has less that a % of shield or armor etc it won t be able to warp out
An extra window or video showing drones undocking ships exploding and stuff like that
@Levels or grade for ships according to equipment and ship(for example a destroyer might be a level 5 ship but good equipped woud become a level 6-7 ship or something like that)
@Many tools are used out of the game like eft etc why not some of those tools enter the game?
@Some tutorial that will show what the new expansion brings since not all people read the forums all the time and a lot don t know what new expansion has even after a lot of days passed
@PVP missions for example you must a kill a frigate to pass the mission or a battleship but beware this will be a player ship and the opponent will have the mission to kill a ship like yours!
@Players should be able to kill concord in big fleets and concord couldn t be able to respawn for some time in current high sec system so system becomes more pvp
@Also bring big ships to high sec .Would be really cool high sec players to see them |
Tabris Katz
The Ecstatic Cult of Dionysus Trifectas Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.12.28 14:56:00 -
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My reply to your suggestions in order:
Alien Tech/Races NO!!! We already have that with Jove, Sleepers, Takamahl, Talocan, and Yan Jung. While technically these are different races of human they are still, according to lore, god like and have technology far more advanced then any of the Empire tech. However, I would like to see more from Takamahl, Talocan, and Yan Jung. We already have to deal with sleeper drone.
Flagship? I think that you are suggesting flagships, to which I also would say no. That would be pointless since Titans are pretty much flagships already. However if you are suggesting custom symboles to replace the empire symboles on our ships I'm all for that, just no skill requirement.
1v1 PVP I'm sorry but there's not much CCP can do about that. It's the natural progression of combat to deal with gangs of people. 1v1 is to unpreditcable for most harden so it's only natural to want to fly with others to increase your chances of winning. 1v1 does happen, it's just not often.
Random manufacturing No thanks, when I build something I want to to be 100% sure that the blueprint will produce the item it claims to produce. There are already plenty of random chances in this game, producing t2 bpc, reverse engineering to produce t3 subsystems or just finding deadspace/faction gear.
Skill synergy This would be redundant since many skills already effect module or other in game processes. Fuel Conservation reduces energy needs of afterburners and Acceleration Control increase the speed boost provided.
New Weapon Systems Lots of people have suggested this and I'm not sure where I stand on it.
Force Fields I'm not sure what you're suggesting here, are you saying there should be a new way to modify ships? If that's the case I point to T3 ships and subsystems.
Drone view That would cause a lot of lag.
In game tools Why?
Tutorials I'd check the patch notes everytime you see the game update.
PVP missions Faction Warefare. You get lp for killing players of the opposing faction. Enjoy :)
Killing Concord No, this suggestion has been made several times. High sec needs some garenteed security for new players. Otherwise the game would slowly wither and die from lack of new blood.
Capitals in Highsec Look up "Veldnought" It's funny as hell!! |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:50:00 -
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In short:
No.
Most of your ideas are either awful, suggested repeatedly and shot down every time, or in the case of long range webs/points, already exist. |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:27:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:In short:
No.
Most of your ideas are either awful, suggested repeatedly and shot down every time, or in the case of long range webs/points, already exist.
So you say it s nice fighting in high tech ships that can battle with very far distances weapons but in pvp they can battle only for 10-20km ?Still deadspace and faction give better distances but cost a lot and still the distance is too low compared to simple ones.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:03:00 -
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Don't forget the best idea of all:
Put a button in the esc menu that takes you back to WoW.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:08:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Danika Princip wrote:In short: No.
Most of your ideas are either awful, suggested repeatedly and shot down every time, or in the case of long range webs/points, already exist. So you say it s nice fighting in high tech ships that can battle with very far distances weapons but in pvp they can battle only for 10-20km ?Still deadspace and faction give better distances but cost a lot and still the distance is too low compared to simple ones. Rapier, Arazu, skirmish bonuses... Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.12.29 01:13:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Danika Princip wrote:In short:
No.
Most of your ideas are either awful, suggested repeatedly and shot down every time, or in the case of long range webs/points, already exist. So you say it s nice fighting in high tech ships that can battle with very far distances weapons but in pvp they can battle only for 10-20km ?Still deadspace and faction give better distances but cost a lot and still the distance is too low compared to simple ones.
Did you ever hear of a little thing called a Loki? Or a Proteus, Rapier, Huginn, interceptor, skirmish bonus, overheat... |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:12:00 -
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Anyway the thing is if you like my general ideas .Of course not all going to be liked and not all can be done in eve.thank you. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:21:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Anyway the thing is if you like my general ideas .Of course not all going to be liked and not all can be done in eve.thank you.
And as I said, the rest of them are either downright stupid or just plain unworkable. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.12.30 19:46:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Players should be able to kill concord in big fleets and concord couldn t be able to respawn for some time in current high sec system so system becomes more pvp
confused....
Above you want more 1 v 1 and not gank squad/blob pvp in eve and then you want said gank squads and blobs to kill concord so that they can run even more rampant in empire.
Do you or do you not like group pvp mechanics? You are all over the place. especially when you go on about tackle ranges. Since gung ho for fleets to kill concord...why are you opposed to running the fine selection of e-war range bonused ships mentioned above?
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:29:00 -
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Zan Shiro wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Players should be able to kill concord in big fleets and concord couldn t be able to respawn for some time in current high sec system so system becomes more pvp confused.... Above you want more 1 v 1 and not gank squad/blob pvp in eve and then you want said gank squads and blobs to kill concord so that they can run even more rampant in empire. Do you or do you not like group pvp mechanics? You are all over the place. especially when you go on about tackle ranges. Since gung ho for fleets to kill concord...why are you opposed to running the fine selection of e-war range bonused ships mentioned above?
I love 1 vs 1 PVP which after one year i haven t seen in eve except one time in factional warfare.I m saying for concord to be able to be killed cause I would like to see some mroe challenge in this game. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:10:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Danika Princip wrote:In short:
No.
Most of your ideas are either awful, suggested repeatedly and shot down every time, or in the case of long range webs/points, already exist. So you say it s nice fighting in high tech ships that can battle with very far distances weapons but in pvp they can battle only for 10-20km ?Still deadspace and faction give better distances but cost a lot and still the distance is too low compared to simple ones.
Arazu can point up to 60km before boosts or heat. Called bringing the right tool for the job.
The rest of your ideas are well, meh.
To be honest one problem (aside from the actual content) is you are here trying to ram a large number of bullet points in with very little thought or development. If you really want to have a discussion, pick one you really like and actually flesh it out.
To be honest why should enyone put alot of effort into any of these when you haven't really put any in to develop them past a bullet point. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:22:00 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:
Capitals in Highsec Look up "Veldnought" It's funny as hell!!
Confirmed, funny as hell. Nearly wet myself. If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Dori Tos
Galactic Innovations
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Posted - 2013.12.31 03:09:00 -
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Quote:
After playing a year or so some new suggestions !
I suggest you play at least another 4 years before even trying to make game altering suggestions.This game has been around for over a decade and is very complex,to think that playing it for just 1 year would somehow give you enough insight to come up with new appropriate,needed and balanced ideas is kinda absurd. I'm delicious. |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.31 08:57:00 -
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Dori Tos wrote:Quote:
After playing a year or so some new suggestions !
I suggest you play at least another 4 years before even trying to make game altering suggestions.This game has been around for over a decade and is very complex,to think that playing it for just 1 year would somehow give you enough insight to come up with new appropriate,needed and balanced ideas is kinda absurd.
I know it s a 10 year game but still for a 10 year game it has very few players playing it.One bad thing I see in here is that old characters like to control the game ,don t want changes and CCP listens them.I m not saying all changes are good but most are.I have seen many many good suggestions in here and all are heavily critisized by old players who don t like changes.Games develop and becoming better every day but eve wants to stay an old game who few might like.
It s the only PVP supposed game which you have to change weapon systems if you want to PVP ,I mean a ship that can fight is a ship that can fight either npcs either real players.Don t tell me you fly pvp ship and do pve missions cause that s a big lie and none does that. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:10:00 -
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My ratting boats drive off PVP ships all the time. Bombers can't touch them, and if I had a point fitted I'd have killed T3s.
In a ship I use for nothing but ratting.
Incursion ships also make good PVP boats, the only differance between a vanguard gang and an ahac fleet is tackle (And even that can be fitted somewhere in the group).
Just because you personally choose not to fit your PVE boats for PVP doesn't mean everyone does. (And from your missions comment, I assume you're a highseccer. Live in the other three areas of space for a while before you suggest massive game changes.) |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.31 14:05:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:My ratting boats drive off PVP ships all the time. Bombers can't touch them, and if I had a point fitted I'd have killed T3s.
In a ship I use for nothing but ratting.
Incursion ships also make good PVP boats, the only differance between a vanguard gang and an ahac fleet is tackle (And even that can be fitted somewhere in the group).
Just because you personally choose not to fit your PVE boats for PVP doesn't mean everyone does. (And from your missions comment, I assume you're a highseccer. Live in the other three areas of space for a while before you suggest massive game changes.)
I have lived in low sec and null sec.The fact is that I have died less times in low sec than high sec but all my deaths low ,null high were me against more than 4 ships . |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2157
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Posted - 2013.12.31 14:10:00 -
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Yes. That happens. Why is it a problem? |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2013.12.31 14:46:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Yes. That happens. Why is it a problem?
Cause probably this is not PVP .PVP means PLAYER VS PLAYER not players vs player or players vs players or teams vs teams or teams vs player.Simple.Anyway again off topic let stick to my proposals and not what PVP is since I m not gonna explain it .Play other good pvp games like aion,runes of magic fallen earth wow lineage 2 and many more to see for yourself what real PVP is. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2157
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:00:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Yes. That happens. Why is it a problem? Cause probably this is not PVP .PVP means PLAYER VS PLAYER not players vs player or players vs players or teams vs teams or teams vs player.Simple.Anyway again off topic let stick to my proposals and not what PVP is since I m not gonna explain it .Play other good pvp games like aion,runes of magic fallen earth wow lineage 2 and many more to see for yourself what real PVP is.
So after a year of playing EVE, you want everything that makes it unique, interesting and complex removed completely?
The thought of WOW PVP being the shining example is laughable. Tell me, what do you want the day one newbie in the tackle frigate to be able to do to the ten year veteran in the macharial? |
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Schmata Bastanold
The brothers inc Brothers Of The Dark Sun
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:09:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Play other good pvp games like aion,runes of magic fallen earth wow lineage 2 and many more to see for yourself what real PVP is.
You want to tell me that in those other games people don't use their friends to backup them in fights? What a bunch of morons. Coincidentally all those games have dragons and tooth fairies, go figure I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:20:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Play other good pvp games like aion,runes of magic fallen earth wow lineage 2 and many more to see for yourself what real PVP is. You are a troll. You must be a troll.. I played some of this games and the PvP is horrible and that's why I stopped playing them. And you call that "real" PvP? This limited, meaningless. repetitive and boring duel/arena mechanics?
I think you are in the wrong game here if you like this **** more than an actual emergent fight with some background an meaning to it. |
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