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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.01.02 19:13:00 -
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Pieter, I always enjoy it when you drop the "Simple Soldier" bit and put on your Space Lawyer hat. Sadly, I think you'd better go re read Soter's statement. He said "Caldari Navy" not "State Protectorate" or "Milita" forces.
Furthermore, until Villore Accords files a lawsuit we aren't "attempting to put legal pressure" on anyone. Doesn't stop us from calling the Intaki Situation what it is: a legal clusterfrak with violations of agreements rampant.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3135
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Posted - 2014.01.02 19:47:00 -
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Now you know why I hate putting my space lawyer hat on - the ojaabun is much better at it than I am!
However, you should know that if you intend to kill people over a legal nicety, you are very much applying pressure, even if it's not legal pressure. You should also remember the fact that Mordus Legion has been invited into the Intaki system by the assembly themselves. These actions invite drama and tension into a situation that already has a surfeit of both.
Additionally you should consider the fact that Mordus legion is deployed as one of the peacekeepers on Caldari Prime, where they are jointly responsible for the security and safety of the planet and the population. We can all agree that the situation on Caldari Prime needs to be protected, lest this cold war flare up again.
I have never understand the need for vainglorious declarations that seems to infect the Federal Defense Union, Rinai. You very seldom see similar posturing from our said and, on the rare occasions that you do, it is often the rest of the State Protectorate pilots who are the most vocal about shutting it up. I'd advise you to police your own. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
314
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Posted - 2014.01.02 21:22:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:...I have never understand the need for vainglorious declarations that seems to infect the Federal Defense Union, Rinai. ...
You don't? Ego's must be sated.
-Eran |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3135
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Posted - 2014.01.02 21:23:00 -
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I prefer to do my empty posturing on the basis of killmails. But only to my friends. |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
645
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Posted - 2014.01.03 00:11:00 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Consistent use of Intaki Assembly Territory by Caldari Navy forces for offensive operations on adjacent Placid Region Federal Districts is a violation of the arrangement between the Assembly and Ishukone Corporation. I request the Intaki Assembly reconsider their agreements with Ishukone, or negotiate the permanent withdrawl of Caldari Forces from the Intaki Prime system under the Militia War Powers Act.
Moira Corporation forces, and the Villore Accords in its entirety, supported the forcible removal of Caldari forces and their affiliates from the system on the date of the original announcement. We fully stand behind the Constitutionally protected autonomy and independence of the Intaki People, while also supporting the collective Defense and Prosperity of the Federation.
What the frack are you even talking about. What kind of assembly area by what Caldari Navy forces to what kind of offensive operations. I mean, there's a certain level of need to know, and I don't expect to catch wind of anything going on all the time, but I've got the sneaking suspicion your nightmares are giving you trouble again.
I imagine the fight against this army of goblins and ghosts must have been intense, and congratulate you on your accomplished ability to wage successful war against an invisible opponent without, bear with me ladies and gentlemen, wetting your pants. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Erik Kaassan
Burning Shadow Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.01.03 03:19:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I prefer to do my empty posturing on the basis of killmails. But only to my friends.
Maybe a wiser statement then you know. Legal-ese is a tricky and precise language. |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
295
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Posted - 2014.01.03 03:32:00 -
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Desiderya wrote:
What the frack are you even talking about.
You've never noticed Caldari Military Outposts, Installations, and Facilities protected by Caldari Navy forces in the Intaki System? I'm rather sure PYRE scouts aren't so incompetent. |
Erik Kaassan
Burning Shadow Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.01.03 03:37:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Yesterday Intaki was liberated from the terrorists known as the Caldari State Protectorate. The Mordus "security" forces outside the V-5 station were also summarily executed.
Militia forces, including JUSTK, have determined that the Mordus Enforcers are in bed with the Caldari, and are considered KOS whenever we patrol the system.
And on this day.... Nobody cared.
Seriously, even the Intaki I work with on the station don't particularly mind that kind of news any more. They just sorta go "Yep. That's nice." and go back to work. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3136
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Posted - 2014.01.03 04:56:00 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Desiderya wrote:
What the frack are you even talking about.
You've never noticed Caldari Military Outposts, Installations, and Facilities protected by Caldari Navy forces in the Intaki System? I'm rather sure PYRE scouts aren't so incompetent.
Oh, please. Despite the upcannoning of individual ships in YC115, those patrols were pared back so hard in terms of numbers that they're barely a speed bump. In any case we're talking about C Category units.
Those units don't deploy forward to attack anything. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2863
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Posted - 2014.01.03 04:57:00 -
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Signatories to the Federal Charter retain the legal right to determine various aspects of the Assembly of their original territories, including the "Shipping and Security" franchise, which regulates commercial shipping and which is traditionally assigned to FedMart and the Federal Navy and Customs.
Can someone please clarify in detail what agreements have been 'violated'? As I understand it, the Intaki Assembly met with Ishukone Corporation and Mordu's Legion in an effort to protect the interests of the Intaki Assembly and Ishukone. This is a double edged sword for both parties. The Intaki people stand under the protection of Ishukone corporation during State Protectorate occupation, while Ishukone stands under the protection of Federation law during Federal Defense Union occupation. Mordu's Legion is meanwhile hired to enforce and protect against piracy... understandably ineffective against capsuleers.
I can understand the Federation loyalist's upset that the Assembly literally turned away the Federation Navy at the stargate when they tried to return following an FDU return to the system, citing they are no longer needed nor welcome. Is the historical partnership with Federal entities to provide Shipping and Security the agreement that was violated? Is such a choice not protected under Federation law? Is this about loyalists being upset that an unprecedented decision was made to invite a Caldari megacorporation and mercenaries into Intaki at the exclusion of Federal or Federally aligned bodies?
Otherwise, which agreements have been violated?
Rinai Vero wrote:You've never noticed Caldari Military Outposts, Installations, and Facilities protected by Caldari Navy forces in the Intaki System?
Should I point you then to the numerous Federation Navy protected deadspace outposts located in Caldari sovereignty occupied by the Federal Defense Union?
That isn't a "violation". It's a function and feature of the militia wars. It is working as intended, and it isn't going to go away any time soon. ... even if the Intaki Assembly happened to agree with SOter and reconsider the Ishukone-Intaki Agreement. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3136
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Posted - 2014.01.03 05:00:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:You've never noticed Caldari Military Outposts, Installations, and Facilities protected by Caldari Navy forces in the Intaki System? Should I point you then to the numerous Federation Navy protected deadspace outposts located in Caldari sovereignty occupied by the Federal Defense Union? That isn't a "violation". It's a function and feature of the militia wars. It is working as intended, and it isn't going to go away any time soon. ... even if the Intaki Assembly happened to agree with SOter and reconsider the Ishukone-Intaki Agreement.
I never thought I'd see the day when a Capsuleer alliance was so frightened by fat old Navy Reservists and pimply-faced children that they'd cite it as a major interstellar incident. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2863
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Posted - 2014.01.03 05:46:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote: I never thought I'd see the day when a Capsuleer alliance was so frightened by fat old Navy Reservists and pimply-faced children that they'd cite it as a major interstellar incident.
Uhh... what?
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
315
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Posted - 2014.01.03 05:53:00 -
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Isn't it nice when you're a capsuleer. Fat? Pimple-faced? Find a better clone!
-Eran |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3136
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Posted - 2014.01.03 05:56:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote: I never thought I'd see the day when a Capsuleer alliance was so frightened by fat old Navy Reservists and pimply-faced children that they'd cite it as a major interstellar incident.
Uhh... what?
Apparently Villore Accords was complaining about the Reservists guarding the military outposts in Intaki. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
315
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Posted - 2014.01.03 05:58:00 -
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I think she was just surprised that you insulted the Navy like that...but I'll speak for myself. I'm shocked.
-Eran |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3136
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Posted - 2014.01.03 05:59:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:I think she was just surprised that you insulted the Navy like that...but I'll speak for myself. I'm shocked.
-Eran
I'm not insulting the Navy, I'm being realistic about the units that get sent to guard those outposts in the Warzone. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
315
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Posted - 2014.01.03 06:05:00 -
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Excuse me when I say you aren't but nevermindme.
-Eran |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3136
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Posted - 2014.01.03 06:13:00 -
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Do tell me about the warzone, Mr Mintor. If I'm wrong about those units and they are actually fearsome offensive fleets, I should know. Perhaps I've done Rinai a disservice. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2863
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Posted - 2014.01.03 06:25:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:I think she was just surprised that you insulted the Navy like that...
That is not what I assumed, actually. I was more or less unsure what he was saying at all. Suddenly comments about the elderly and pimpled... I was completely at a loss for understanding.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
315
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Posted - 2014.01.03 07:16:00 -
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I'm not sure how to respond, Mister Tuulinen....excuse me while I take my time.
I don't want to lecture you how long I've been involved in, or active around the two war-zones, but I congratulate you, albeit belatedly, on your second year as a capsuleer.
I will tell you that, despite all the changes made with the defenses of these facilities over the years, the men and women recruited to defend these installations are no less capable than those who comprised the fleets present in the beginning of the war.* While the fleet defenses were surely more difficult to impose upon, those who crew the lone-wolf ships that now comprise the defenses are no less courageous or capable.
In fact, I'd argue they are more capable. To be the only ship defending against a capsuleer invasion requires balls. I understand this might be hard for our kind to understand as death and danger have much less meaning to us. But despite this, I wonder why you think Reserve units are used for the CEMWPA wars, and not border defense or other high-security patrols...Let me not get off track, though.
The issue is this; You did insult the units posted in the facilities that you serve to protect. You called them old and fat as if they have done nothing in their career, or perhaps they're pimply greenhorns who have no idea what war is. While you may be correct in some cases, to say that of all those serving your State, I believe, is an insult.
It amazes me that you insult these baseliners who serve the State in much the same manner you serve. Why would you insult those who sacrifice everything? Hell, I imagine even if I was serving as a midshipman whose officer was an old and fat reservist, I would never call him that. There is such a thing that exists in this world called "respect" and I suggest you find some for those who serve your State.
*I know this because I've recruited many of them.
Best regards, -Eran
P.S. Ms. Oniseki, I'm glad I only assumed what you meant and spoke for myself, then. |
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1352
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Posted - 2014.01.03 09:41:00 -
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Whilst Tuulinen-haan's choice of words may offend those not his comrade-in-arms, it does not change the underlying truth for those not caught in a paroxyism of affected indignation:
The very legal structure of the CEWPA conflict is to limit and prevent the direct involvement and confrontation of the Armed Forces of CONCORD signatories, and forces involved are officially part of the designated militias participating in the CEWPA framework including both capsuleer third-party subcontractors and the personnel of militia organizations.
As such allegations of the Caldari Navy being involved in "Offensive Operations" in the Intaki system as certain FDU personnel have claimed is a rather dubious claim as it would be a flagrant breach of the CEWPA treaty obligations and thus at the very least draw an official complaint from the Federal Government to CONCORD. Unless of course the Intaki system is now home to a CalNav Battlefleet that has managed to elude all detection by the intelligence apparatus of the Federation and its military but which only FDU contractors such as Mr. Soter are able to see. |
Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
194
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Posted - 2014.01.03 10:03:00 -
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Madame Gesakaarin once again aims, fires, and misses the target entirely.
If one actively watched the activity inside the warzone, one would be aware of various Caldari State Protectorate Beacons with Caldari Navy vessels inside of them, hunting down various Federal squadron commanders. While Militia capsuleers participate in these lucrative contracts, the Caldari Navy provides the operational framework and tactical support required for their completion, within, wait for it, Federation territory. And indeed, they inflict grievous harm
So let us all stop playing this silly song and dance and face the facts at hand. When the State Occupied the Intaki system, they seized access of the stations. Federation militia pilots are denied access to dock. Offense operations are conducted against targets of opportunity inside the system by the Caldari Navy. These facts form the basis of our objections. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
316
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:19:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Whilst Tuulinen-haan's choice of words may offend those not his comrade-in-arms, it does not change the underlying truth for those not caught in a paroxyism of affected indignation:
The very legal structure of the CEWPA conflict is to limit and prevent the direct involvement and confrontation of the Armed Forces of CONCORD signatories, and forces involved are officially part of the designated militias participating in the CEWPA framework including both capsuleer third-party subcontractors and the personnel of militia organizations.
As such allegations of the Caldari Navy being involved in "Offensive Operations" in the Intaki system as certain FDU personnel have claimed is a rather dubious claim as it would be a flagrant breach of the CEWPA treaty obligations and thus at the very least draw an official complaint from the Federal Government to CONCORD. Unless of course the Intaki system is now home to a CalNav Battlefleet that has managed to elude all detection by the intelligence apparatus of the Federation and its military but which only FDU contractors such as Mr. Soter are able to see.
So in my mind if this CalNav fleet in Intaki did exist then all I can say is that Federal military intelligence is either woefully incompetent at their jobs or Mr. Soter is presenting a fiction.
Cut the crap. I like you, though you looked prettier with short hair, but this is bullshit.
If the initial defensive forces in any of the war-zones compounds were members of the militias, their registry would say so. Instead, they are registered as members of their respective Navy. Don't believe me? Look for yourself.
You say the "legal structure of the CE(M)WPA conflict is to limit and prevent the direct involvement and confrontation of the Armed Forces of CONCORD signatories," but you are so wrong. Forget the low-sec installations; Do the hi-sec navies not attack you and get directly involved when you go into enemy space?
Curious....you said the act is to prevent direct involvement of major navies but the reality says otherwise.
I would agree these forces aren't involved in offensive action, but rather defensive, much like the Navy defends border-zones and other hi-security systems. That doesn't change who they get their orders from or where they are recruited from. These men and women aren't mercenaries - they're soldiers of their countries.
Despite this, I guess this is your damage control with the fact your own pilot insulted those who defend his country. I have to say it is a let down. Let the man speak up for himself. I'm sure he's a big man who can own up for his own words. He doesn't need a lawyer to defend him; this isn't a legal debate, and I don't aim to sue.
Hell, if you're going to play a lawyer, at least understand the law.
As a side note:
Soter, your forces weren't welcome by the Intaki so don't be upset when you can't dock there. Just get the hell out and stop using Intaki as some sort of baseboard to try to make Moira. relevant in the war-zone.
-Eran |
Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
194
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:31:00 -
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Mssr. Mintor, I'll assure you that I don't seek recognition of relevance from you.
The point of this debate was to clarify the murky legal and military waters created by the Leadership of Pyre.
I am gratified that you agree with the majority of my analsysis. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
316
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Posted - 2014.01.03 11:44:00 -
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Mr. Soter,
I'm sad I agree with the majority of your recent analysis.
With that said, I never thought you sought anything from me. I re-read your initial statement and realized I misread it...For that, I apologize. I hope not to make that mistake again.
-Eran
Edit: I still stand by the beginning of my statement though. The Intaki said they don't want Federal Navy forces there, so don't force it upon them. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1352
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Posted - 2014.01.03 13:14:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote: Cut the crap. I like you, though you looked prettier with short hair, but this is bullshit.
If the initial defensive forces in any of the war-zones compounds were members of the militias, their registry would say so. Instead, they are registered as members of their respective Navy. Don't believe me? Look for yourself.
You say the "legal structure of the CE(M)WPA conflict is to limit and prevent the direct involvement and confrontation of the Armed Forces of CONCORD signatories," but you are so wrong. Forget the low-sec installations; Do the hi-sec navies not attack you and get directly involved when you go into enemy space?
Curious....you said the act is to prevent direct involvement of major navies but the reality says otherwise.
I would agree these forces aren't involved in offensive action, but rather defensive, much like the Navy defends border-zones and other hi-security systems. That doesn't change who they get their orders from or where they are recruited from. These men and women aren't mercenaries - they're soldiers of their countries.
Despite this, I guess this is your damage control with the fact your own pilot insulted those who defend his country. I have to say it is a let down. Let the man speak up for himself. I'm sure he's a big man who can own up for his own words. He doesn't need a lawyer to defend him; this isn't a legal debate, and I don't aim to sue.
Hell, if you're going to play a lawyer, at least understand the law.
As a side note:
Soter, your forces weren't welcome by the Intaki so don't be upset when you can't dock there. Just get the hell out and stop using Intaki as some sort of baseboard to try to make Moira. relevant in the war-zone.
-Eran
IFF transponders read forces in military complexes designate as belonging to a respective CONCORD signatory, not in fact the recognized armed forces of those signatories. All militias have separate and distinct command structures, assets and personnel directly related to their operation under CEWPA mandates which are separate and distinct from national armed forces. National armed forces which are indeed permitted to defend the territorial sovereignty and integrity of their borders against CEWPA militia units operating outside the bounds of the designated conflict zones.
The entire point of CEWPA from the beginning was a CONCORD initiative aimed at containment of armed conflict between its signatories by permitting a degree of limited war through third-party proxy. Having the Navies directly involved (As opposed to releasing forces to operate under the militia framework as mandated by the Assembly) would mean a state of total war exists making both the CEWPA framework and CONCORD entirely redundant which is presently not the case.
Major military action by the Armed Forces of CONCORD signatories has only recently been considered by the Amarr Empire. If you believe my estimation of the current CEWPA framework is flawed then I would have to ask how, if the Navies of CONCORD signatories were already directly involved in the present conflict why the Empire would only now discuss, in fact, releasing the Imperial Navy into the Bleak Lands?
As for Tuulinen-haan, whilst I may have my own opinions on his commentary, that will never change my duty and obligations towards him as a comrade, and as a brother who has shed blood with me, to defend him as he defends me whether it's on the field or off it. As they say here in the State: Even when your kirjuun are wrong; they are right.
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2867
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:57:00 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Madame Gesakaarin once again aims, fires, and misses the target entirely.
If one actively watched the activity inside the warzone, one would be aware of various Caldari State Protectorate Beacons with Caldari Navy vessels inside of them, hunting down various Federal squadron commanders. While Militia capsuleers participate in these lucrative contracts, the Caldari Navy provides the operational framework and tactical support required for their completion, within, wait for it, Federation territory. And indeed, they inflict grievous harm
So let us all stop playing this silly song and dance and face the facts at hand. When the State Occupied the Intaki system, they seized access of the stations. Federation militia pilots are denied access to dock. Offense operations are conducted against targets of opportunity inside the system by the Caldari Navy. These facts form the basis of our objections.
You can direct those objections to CONCORD itself and indeed the Federation government, M. Soter. All of those issues you listed are part and parcel to the entire militia conflict.
They are intended aspects and results of enemy occupation, ones that your government ratified and have reciprocated in full.
You'd have just about as much luck pressuring CONCORD to start making DED patrols in low-sec (effectively making it high-sec), which I believe would be a more worthwhile use of whatever political leverage your organization may wield. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
734
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:16:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Madame Gesakaarin once again aims, fires, and misses the target entirely.
If one actively watched the activity inside the warzone, one would be aware of various Caldari State Protectorate Beacons with Caldari Navy vessels inside of them, hunting down various Federal squadron commanders. While Militia capsuleers participate in these lucrative contracts, the Caldari Navy provides the operational framework and tactical support required for their completion, within, wait for it, Federation territory. And indeed, they inflict grievous harm
So let us all stop playing this silly song and dance and face the facts at hand. When the State Occupied the Intaki system, they seized access of the stations. Federation militia pilots are denied access to dock. Offense operations are conducted against targets of opportunity inside the system by the Caldari Navy. These facts form the basis of our objections. You can direct those objections to CONCORD itself and indeed the Federation government, M. Soter. All of those issues you listed are part and parcel to the entire militia conflict. They are intended aspects and results of enemy occupation, ones that your government ratified and have reciprocated in full.You'd have just about as much luck pressuring CONCORD to start making DED patrols in low-sec (effectively making it high-sec), which I believe would be a more worthwhile use of whatever political leverage your organization may wield.
Are you suggesting, Miss Oniseki, that instead of legislating warfare that CONCORD should be acting to secure space from random acts of violence?
And I suppose the empires should provide them with the best of their technology to pursue this goal?
And I'll just bet you think they should try to broker real peace between our peoples so that we can advance as a society rather than spending our resources fighting endless skirmishes in what would otherwise be productive space?
Honestly, where do you get these silly ideas... "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3137
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:36:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Despite this, I guess this is your damage control with the fact your own pilot insulted those who defend his country. I have to say it is a let down. Let the man speak up for himself. I'm sure he's a big man who can own up for his own words. He doesn't need a lawyer to defend him; this isn't a legal debate, and I don't aim to sue.
There's no damage. The only one who's upset is you and, given the fact that you're jaijii, that really only affects me to the extent that I value your good opinion - which I do, to some extent, actually. I think you're assigning too much importance to both those pickets and my words concerning them, but let me elaborate on why they are not the elite units of the Caldari Navy.
Initially the Navy maintained a strong reaction fleet in each occupied system. Engaging a complex would involve overwhelming the local picket, which would then be reinforced by the reaction fleet in waves. These waves didn't really constitute a viable defence, of course, but the Navy tried. Later it was decided that rather than maintain large fleets of these disposable ships, the Navy would, instead, maintain a smaller fleet of more up to date vessels.
This makes sense from a logistical standpoint.
Nontheless there really are only two types of Navy unit in the warzone. Those who have yet to be engaged by capsuleer forces and heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice for the State. The Navy does not commit their best crews to man these ships - and if they did do so, they would quickly lose them.
They are Reservists. Category C units who serve a tour and hope not to see combat during their commitment. The idea that they represent some sort of scourge of the warzone is risible and patently false - and it is in THAT context that I called them the old and out of condition and the very inexperienced. Are they heroes of the State? Of course they are, but let's not kid ourselves that they're frakking Octopus Squadron.
The truth is that Msr Soter is frustrated and that he now seeks to justify lashing out at a very asymmetrical force that he can easily defeat.
Now, if anybody with an actual stake in this is upset - they can contact me personally and I'll be glad to discuss this with them. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2867
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:45:00 -
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Constantin Baracca wrote: Are you suggesting, Miss Oniseki, that instead of legislating warfare that CONCORD should be acting to secure space from random acts of violence?
And I suppose the empires should provide them with the best of their technology to pursue this goal?
And I'll just bet you think they should try to broker real peace between our peoples so that we can advance as a society rather than spending our resources fighting endless skirmishes in what would otherwise be productive space?
Honestly, where do you get these silly ideas...
I know, I know. Insane notions, aren't they?
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
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