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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.09 11:00:00 -
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I'd like to see it implemented that alliances and especially corporations will only be able to claim a certain amount of systems, them being routed in any other factions space should they persist on camping it. For example Serpentis space in Fountain, them being besieged is just plain ridicilous, they should field a sizable fleet and hammer the wannabe masters invading their sovereignty.
Make bottleneck system claiming impossible, NPC factions beyond this point would object I'm sure and also of course make it impossible to lay claims to sovereign space such as the mentioned Serpentis space for one.
This will make for smaller empires being built and the rest of the people not interested in locking up travelling routes access to most areas of space.
Camping bottlenecks will be possible still sure but once in a while there should be a visit from that NPC faction to clean up.
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Carbon
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Posted - 2003.09.09 12:36:00 -
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I concurr.
The ability for "l33t" pirate groups to sit around on their behinds all day choking navigationally important, and thus economically and state security important systems, is completely illogical. This also applies to certain groups claiming empire space and imposing their own military law.
Sovereignty naval forces of any kind completely ignore gate campfests.. sure, they're in .4 and below space, but .5 and above systems are being cut off. Surely Empire forces should be doing something? After some sort of threshold is passed, such as the amount of time the pirates sit there or how many ship and pod kills inflicted on that system?
And lets not forget the corporations adversly affected.. I find it hard to believe that big-name NPC corporations wouldn't petition local sovereign factions or even form their own cleanup force, as these campings undoubtedly distrupt business for these NPCs (Both in character and out).
Adding these types of AI responses would be a win-win situation, I think. It would help prevent the same systems being camped day, after day, after day, while making the EVE experience more interesting/challenging for the pirates that are always complaining.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.09 23:13:00 -
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Thanks Carbon, so it's not just the voice of reason in my head.
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Arondos
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Posted - 2003.09.10 04:07:00 -
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It would be nice. As is you can "claim" a space but anybody can come in and good luck managing to track them or catch them. I've had 6 people I know cancel accounts in the last week and every single one says the same thing. There's no purpose here. Mine the same ore, kill the same NPC's. Claim a space but have no real way to control it.
The game needs player controlled sentry guns and stations. The game needs ways to actually track down an intruder and catch them. I've played both the good guy and the bad and you will NEVER catch a pirate who doesn't want to be caught.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.10 10:12:00 -
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That new skill would go great under Corporate Management and/or Leadership.
Should it be for CEOs only or should everyone intending some guard duty in that system have to have a certain skill, allowing them to scan faster or whatnot to pinpoint the location of intruders?
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:46:00 -
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should have something like gang.. you see an intruder on your local and can warp to him.. only available in a claimed system by some on of the corp that has the claim STAN
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true sight
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:57:00 -
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I agree, I think this should only be available in 0.0 , and even be able re-name it to your ticker, so fzd-3d would be renamed to NTE or what ever your corp ticker was, there would have to be a way people could "free" the system, or conquer it off you, replacing the standard NPC roid pirates with your own "brought" npc pirates would also be a good feature, it wouldnt make sense if you claimed a system in your name but Guristas still patrolled your belts, you would need "NTE" pirates, which would be more powerful than standard and would cost your corpation money to buy and replace.
Good idea though.
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Darketh Nightspawn
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Posted - 2003.09.10 17:32:00 -
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Sovereignty naval forces of any kind completely ignore gate campfests.. sure, they're in .4 and below space, but .5 and above systems are being cut off. Surely Empire forces should be doing something? After some sort of threshold is passed, such as the amount of time the pirates sit there or how many ship and pod kills inflicted on that system?
And lets not forget the corporations adversly affected.. I find it hard to believe that big-name NPC corporations wouldn't petition local sovereign factions or even form their own cleanup force, as these campings undoubtedly distrupt business for these NPCs (Both in character and out).
not only should these forces go in and clean it out, they should then patrol it until it is no longer seen as a hotspot, this would be a realistic response to the 'boy scout pirate camps', it would also force the pirates to actually act like pirates and put themselves at risk.
The pirates currently have most systems sealed up completely, in and out, there is no risk to the boy scouts and they make no effort to hunt people. This is totally unrealistic Pirates have never behaved in this manner, this is not piracy.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.11 01:47:00 -
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Sovereignty naval forces of any kind completely ignore gate campfests.. sure, they're in .4 and below space, but .5 and above systems are being cut off. Surely Empire forces should be doing something? After some sort of threshold is passed, such as the amount of time the pirates sit there or how many ship and pod kills inflicted on that system?
And lets not forget the corporations adversly affected.. I find it hard to believe that big-name NPC corporations wouldn't petition local sovereign factions or even form their own cleanup force, as these campings undoubtedly distrupt business for these NPCs (Both in character and out).
not only should these forces go in and clean it out, they should then patrol it until it is no longer seen as a hotspot, this would be a realistic response to the 'boy scout pirate camps', it would also force the pirates to actually act like pirates and put themselves at risk.
The pirates currently have most systems sealed up completely, in and out, there is no risk to the boy scouts and they make no effort to hunt people. This is totally unrealistic Pirates have never behaved in this manner, this is not piracy.
No, it's armed robbery. The pirates have stolen a region. Deal with it.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
DrPRoberts
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:37:00 -
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Stain Alliance is ebil.. ya and m0o/sin/rus ebil too. All should be slain for the greater glory of DNRC !
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.15 17:50:00 -
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Yes Devs deal with it, give these sovereign forces uber ships such as the ones Concord has to enforce their rule on their claimed systems.
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Gary Forthy
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:47:00 -
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I say deal with the small ones, and let thouse who REALLY want to claim some system struggle to keep it! this would be more realistic. and if you can keep the claim on the system for a certain amount of time 2months?6months?a year? THEN you could be able to ADD your corps ticker to the name. not rename it completly. "system name (NTE)". I think it should be possible to claim systems, but you must work hard to keep it!
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Thor Intaki
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Posted - 2003.09.17 19:10:00 -
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I agree with the concept. It will add more "texture" to the game and occupy player pirates - they will have more things to do besides gate camping or preying on the weak non-pirate player. I don't know why CCP didn't think of this before; they've made EVE so pro-pirate they should have thought of a clean-up force (special ops) periodically scouting for players/corps who bottleneck their space. This idea will definitely liven the world of Eve for all players.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.19 00:31:00 -
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Having systems get a ticker to them could a one solution, the other being they just get to pick a color that differ from sovereign space around them.
I'm all for player controlled systems in the deep reaches of space but imposing one self on another sovereign power without so much as a fight even and it remaining unchallenged by the CCP... I'm still waiting for the disgusted smiley!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.25 12:20:00 -
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I hope this issue gets some love before all of 0.0 space is surrendered to gatemuppets.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2003.09.25 12:43:00 -
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As a none pirate and a blockade runner. I for one think everything is fine.
Remember, no ship will last forever. What those that are in dismay should consider is, you can make a difference. Call your local reporter and send in your 15 BS and wipe those pirates yourselves. Thats the real issue here.
PC owned stations and sentry guns and titans and cyber and cloak will alter this game more. Yes sit back in .8 sec and watch the others make a name for themselves.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.25 14:32:00 -
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You just don't see the point now do you.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.26 13:15:00 -
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CEO skills for controlling a system would be nice, one system per lvl to avoid these monster claims.
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Roger Welco
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Posted - 2003.09.30 09:34:00 -
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i agree, the game needs to be expanded so that CORPs are able to control a area of space or system. There is nothing,in this game for corps to fight over. in RL most battle on of the main reason a war takes place is over territory, that should also become part of this game to. And no it should not be only in 0.0 space, i think any space bleow .5 should be included as 'empire space' does not really get policed anything above that.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.05 23:15:00 -
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This is an issue I'd like for our representatives at the next CSM to address.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.11 00:54:00 -
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Someone raised a concern about there not being tough enough NPC pirates, well maybe the sovereign systems of said pirates should have really tough pirates patrolling them, much like Concord, which would take a well planned and well equipped sizable force to defeat.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:35:00 -
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Are any of the CSM buttpuppets reading this forum?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.19 20:07:00 -
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.21 12:45:00 -
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If nothing else the ships of these out of empire factions need to made a lot stronger and more aggressive, me personally I'd like for there to be systems who nearly no-one enter and lives to tell about, in their then form.
Players at this stage 'farming' the NPC at will everywhere is a huge turn-off. Whoever said anyone could set foot in Serpentis Prime if not specifially invited by their agents?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.28 19:41:00 -
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Due to the poor quality of threads on the front page this has to go topside.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.21 04:04:00 -
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Core systems of entitys like the Sansha Nation should have ships of concord proportion, walking all over them should not be an option.
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Capt Darius
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:13:00 -
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Danton what i find more troubling is the fact that these alliances can farm npc's all day and then go dock in the stations of the npc's they just farmed with no negative drawbacks (sentry guns lighting them up)..i think its stupid if i fire on a convoy the stations shoot me down if i fire on a rat i can dock at their station.... there should be 0 controled space regoins till player owned space stations enter the game...
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:41:00 -
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That will change, have been said already, hopefully the NPC faction ships in those sovereign systems will grow some concordian balls too.
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