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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:37:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I think having offered a free fitted battleship + 5 billion isk to try to get 5 solo kills without dying, and finding all the big opinionated mouths in this thread, including the self proclaimed king of mega's, refusing to take it up shows that those mouths are just that, mouths with nothing to back it up. So because no one is interested in humouring you for a free BS, that must mean you're right. A free battleship and 5 billion isk. Yes I think that means I'm right. They won't take it up because they know they'll die horribly to a frig or cruiser sized hull or 50. Just like any solo battleship shortly does.
Check the kill I linked of me in rancer flying Mega vs 17 PL. Notice they're all in HAC, BC and not a single BS in their gang? Why do you suppose when BS are supposedly so awesome?
Short answer: Because BS suck. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4195
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:42:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I think having offered a free fitted battleship + 5 billion isk to try to get 5 solo kills without dying, and finding all the big opinionated mouths in this thread, including the self proclaimed king of mega's, refusing to take it up shows that those mouths are just that, mouths with nothing to back it up. So because no one is interested in humouring you for a free BS, that must mean you're right. A free battleship and 5 billion isk. Yes I think that means I'm right. They won't take it up because they know they'll die horribly to a frig or cruiser sized hull or 50. Just like any solo battleship shortly does. Check the kill I linked of me in rancer flying Mega vs 17 PL. Notice they're all in HAC, BC and not a single BS in their gang? Why do you suppose when BS are supposedly so awesome? Short answer: Because BS suck.
They suck....when you don't use them right. That's what you refuse to understand (in standard selfish fashion). BATTLESHIP, not BC, not cruiser, dessie or frig. Just because you want to solo in a BS doesn't mean it's a good idea for the game. Ship classes should have definite roles, things they are good at and things they aren't.
Tell me, if BS' could do what you want them to, why would anyone fly something else? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6086
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:47:00 -
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Just blob archons, pfft ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8100
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Short answer: Because BS suck. No, it's because you're ******** and you're missing the point entirely despite having multiple people explain it multiple ways, multiple times. My EVE Videos |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6086
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:26:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Short answer: Because BS suck. No, it's because you're ******** and you're missing the point entirely despite having multiple people explain it multiple ways, multiple times. you got trolled
hahaha, goonie feel for obvious troll ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1356
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:53:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:I think having offered a free fitted battleship + 5 billion isk to try to get 5 solo kills without dying, and finding all the big opinionated mouths in this thread, including the self proclaimed king of mega's, refusing to take it up shows that those mouths are just that, mouths with nothing to back it up. So because no one is interested in humouring you for a free BS, that must mean you're right. A free battleship and 5 billion isk. Yes I think that means I'm right. They won't take it up because they know they'll die horribly to a frig or cruiser sized hull or 50. Just like any solo battleship shortly does. Check the kill I linked of me in rancer flying Mega vs 17 PL. Notice they're all in HAC, BC and not a single BS in their gang? Why do you suppose when BS are supposedly so awesome? Short answer: Because BS suck. They suck....when you don't use them right. That's what you refuse to understand (in standard selfish fashion). BATTLESHIP, not BC, not cruiser, dessie or frig. Just because you want to solo in a BS doesn't mean it's a good idea for the game. Ship classes should have definite roles, things they are good at and things they aren't. Tell me, if BS' could do what you want them to, why would anyone fly something else? Firstly you tell me what you think I want battleships to do? I don't believe I ever specified that :)
And no, they suck in comparison to all other subcaps because the role they were designed for (killing other subcaps in PvP) they are no longer even marginally useful for.
This is primarily because of large weapon nerfs, tracking nerfs, mobility nerds, sig radius, speed tanking, inability to use cloaks effectively, inability to get even a comparative boost from ratio based mods, absurdly slow warp nerf, cruiser sized drone bay nerf, nerfed drone bandwidth.
This of course all because we can't have BS blapping small ships with 12k alphas yet we have BC without all these nerfs blapping ships with 12k alpha.
Yes we have a multitude of ships blapping small and big ships all the time. Its a very poor excuse when 60 million worth of cats can pop a 6 billion isk freighter in less then 15 seconds. Yet a single battleship cannot be allowed to be viable in PvP because it'd be too 'dangerous'.
Whats the alpha difference between a 50k Tornado and a 1 billion isk Mach? 2k lol. Nado warps, locka, aligns, cloaks better than a Mach.
Whats the difference between the cost of a T2 Trimark Medium and a T2 Trimark Large? 70 million. In fact to fit 3 T2 Trimarks on your T1 BS will cost you close the full cost of a T3 unfitted.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9735
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:baltec1 wrote:Pandora Barzane wrote:
just find it very telling that no nullseccer taken your up on this offer. Just shows how right you are.
Last time infinity offered a battleship to go solo and kill stuff I accepted. Infinity didn't deliver. I offered you a Mega, you demanded a vindicator. Very different story. Why don't you take me up on my offer, you're the mega pvp king.... should be nice and easy ....
No I asked for a kronos, which is a mega hull and the best adapted for solo work. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Raven O'Russ
Liza idi na...
4
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:59:00 -
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If we will have to think about efficiency every single time, then all we need to have in hangar is some t3 cruiser.
As for BS, got apocalypse navy last month, that's a very satisfying thing in cases of exterminating lvl4 blood / sansha / drones.
BS are big, can shoot very far, look cute (mostly), cost not very much, tough enough, have an mjd, sometimes give away numbers like 10k+ alpha damage. Thats why I use them. Does TS need anything more for easy and pleasant lvl4 rides? |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1358
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:baltec1 wrote:Pandora Barzane wrote:
just find it very telling that no nullseccer taken your up on this offer. Just shows how right you are.
Last time infinity offered a battleship to go solo and kill stuff I accepted. Infinity didn't deliver. I offered you a Mega, you demanded a vindicator. Very different story. Why don't you take me up on my offer, you're the mega pvp king.... should be nice and easy .... No I asked for a kronos, which is a mega hull and the best adapted for solo work. But you've been going on about the Mega being fine, surely a Mega will do. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6087
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:21:00 -
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Contract a mega to me in Jita. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9736
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:23:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: But you've been going on about the Mega being fine, surely a Mega will do.
Its not a solo focused ship, the mega is a great fleet/small gang ship. The kronos is a much better adapted ship for solo/small gang work. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1358
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: But you've been going on about the Mega being fine, surely a Mega will do.
Its not a solo focused ship, the mega is a great fleet/small gang ship. The kronos is a much better adapted ship for solo/small gang work. Nah its not a bad solo ship as battleships go. However that's similiar to saying a Veyron is not a bad formula 1 car as GT cars go. Veyron (Mega) against F1 GP cars (HAC, T3, Pirate Cruisers and BC) will get slaughtered. Even against T1 cruisers its likely by by time. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2272
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:31:00 -
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A Veyron isn't a Formula 1 car. Why won't you buy the Kronos? Oh god. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6087
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:38:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:A Veyron isn't a Formula 1 car. Why won't you buy the Kronos? Hahaaaa
Should've run more L4s in a battleship? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:40:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:A Veyron isn't a Formula 1 car. Why won't you buy the Kronos? Yes I know a Veyron is not a Formula 1 car which was the whole point of the comparison. A Megathron is not a pure solo ship either, the Mega was designed to be a small gang and solo pvp ship. Recons on the other hand were designed purely for fleet / gang work however the Curse is an exceptional soloer while the Mega has gone from being good to poor at solo.
As for the Kronos, its a Marauder not a T1 battleship.
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2272
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:42:00 -
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Right, so you're only going to pay for a T1 BS. I thought you were going to give away 5bn, a Kronos is only 1bn. Oh god. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6087
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:44:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Right, so you're only going to pay for a T1 BS. I thought you were going to give away 5bn, a Kronos is only 1bn. that's because iz is betting that marmite will gank him on the jita undock due to being an incorp character ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9736
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Posted - 2014.01.05 08:59:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: As for the Kronos, its a Marauder not a T1 battleship.
Its a battleship and the better option for solo work in the megathron lineup. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6088
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:02:00 -
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Are there any vertical battleships? The Nighthawk is a battleship, right? I don't like the spikiness, though I might be thinking of another model. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2272
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Posted - 2014.01.05 09:40:00 -
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Yeah, you're thinking of Nightmare. That's the only one I can think of. Oh god. |
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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
779
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:23:00 -
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Nightmare definitely... And the Tempest, to an extent. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2014.01.05 11:33:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Nightmare definitely... And the Tempest, to an extent.
yeah and TFI naturally.
A lot more smaller ships are vertical though the Naglfar is clearly an exception to that trend :D
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Pandora Barzane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2014.01.05 12:57:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: As for the Kronos, its a Marauder not a T1 battleship.
Its a battleship and the better option for solo work in the megathron lineup.
in other words you need a billion isk bs to solo pvp?
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Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
190
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Posted - 2014.01.05 13:47:00 -
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Hey Infinity I offered to take your challenge granted you made the exception of allowing me to take it in a wormhole instead... which would actually suit your claims more as it would generate me more solo/small gangs to fight instead of getting hotdropped. Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8115
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Posted - 2014.01.05 13:52:00 -
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Pandora Barzane wrote:in other words you need a billion isk bs to solo pvp? No, he needs a billion isk ship for the best chance at succeeding against the widest variety of targets. My EVE Videos |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1955
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Posted - 2014.01.05 13:52:00 -
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Nothing closes up a wormhole after the "owner" has left better than a plated T1 BS running a MWD. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9737
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Posted - 2014.01.05 15:25:00 -
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Pandora Barzane wrote:
in other words you need a billion isk bs to solo pvp?
No, there are other cheaper options in the BS range, the Kronos is simply the best Megathron hull for solo work. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
645
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Posted - 2014.01.05 15:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Riot Girl wrote:A Veyron isn't a Formula 1 car. Why won't you buy the Kronos? Yes I know a Veyron is not a Formula 1 car which was the whole point of the comparison. A Megathron is not a pure solo ship either, the Mega was designed to be a small gang and solo pvp ship. Recons on the other hand were designed purely for fleet / gang work however the Curse is an exceptional soloer while the Mega has gone from being good to poor at solo. As for the Kronos, its a Marauder not a T1 battleship.
>>------woooosh---->>>> The Point
)(Your Head)(
...yet you are using the same argument somehow? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6097
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Posted - 2014.01.05 18:58:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Riot Girl wrote:A Veyron isn't a Formula 1 car. Why won't you buy the Kronos? Yes I know a Veyron is not a Formula 1 car which was the whole point of the comparison. A Megathron is not a pure solo ship either, the Mega was designed to be a small gang and solo pvp ship. Recons on the other hand were designed purely for fleet / gang work however the Curse is an exceptional soloer while the Mega has gone from being good to poor at solo. As for the Kronos, its a Marauder not a T1 battleship. >>------woooosh---->>>> The Point)(Your Head)( ...yet you are using the same argument somehow? Of course, from the start, it's been like this for the whole thread.
You only notice now? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1385
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Posted - 2014.01.06 07:22:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Riot Girl wrote:A Veyron isn't a Formula 1 car. Why won't you buy the Kronos? Yes I know a Veyron is not a Formula 1 car which was the whole point of the comparison. A Megathron is not a pure solo ship either, the Mega was designed to be a small gang and solo pvp ship. Recons on the other hand were designed purely for fleet / gang work however the Curse is an exceptional soloer while the Mega has gone from being good to poor at solo. As for the Kronos, its a Marauder not a T1 battleship. >>------woooosh---->>>> The Point)(Your Head)( ...yet you are using the same argument somehow? The irony... is so strong. |
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