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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2014.01.07 05:41:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:For role-playing reasons I never use Amarr being Minnie.. :) For role-playing reasons I always use Minnie being Amarr.. :) :) |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1035
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Posted - 2014.01.07 05:55:00 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:The big problem then becomes ammo since all of your cargo is taken up with fittings.
Cargo space really is the biggest problem, you probably want to swap offensive and propulsion subsystems between travel and combat, which also means bringing mobile depo.
2 subsystems + covert ops cloak + mobile depo is 230 m3, a T3 cruiser probably has close to 300 m3 cargo space.
Using drones solves part of the problem, but if you use a covert subsystem for traveling, you lose drone bay and need cargo space to carry the drones while the covert ops subsystem is installed, it's very likely you are going to need cargo bay extenders when traveling.
Covert ops cloak takes up 100m3 cargo space, but T3 can have the module fitted even without covert ops subsystem installed, there are situations where this can be useful. You will not be able to online the module without the covert ops subsystem, but you will be able to trade 1 high slot for 100m3 cargo space. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1396
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Posted - 2014.01.08 07:01:00 -
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dexington wrote:Andrew Indy wrote:The big problem then becomes ammo since all of your cargo is taken up with fittings. Cargo space really is the biggest problem, you probably want to swap offensive and propulsion subsystems between travel and combat, which also means bringing mobile depo. 2 subsystems + covert ops cloak + mobile depo is 230 m3, a T3 cruiser probably has close to 300 m3 cargo space. Using drones solves part of the problem, but if you use a covert subsystem for traveling, you lose drone bay and need cargo space to carry the drones while the covert ops subsystem is installed, it's very likely you are going to need cargo bay extenders when traveling. Covert ops cloak takes up 100m3 cargo space, but T3 can have the module fitted even without covert ops subsystem installed, there are situations where this can be useful. You will not be able to online the module without the covert ops subsystem, but you will be able to trade 1 high slot for 100m3 cargo space. This is why I find wormholes so useful. Nothing but an outpost or POS beats a wormhole to High. Thats two jumps for a blockade runner to bring GSC and as much ammo and mods you'll need for your stay. On the downside I havent been able to log in for 3 weeks and about 1 billion in ammo subsystems and mods are about to go bang due to GSC timer :) |
erg cz
Sliperer
52
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Posted - 2014.01.08 09:17:00 -
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Thank you. Very usefull. I just finished building up my first Stratios and I am going to use it exactly as described. Do you think I can run DED 8/10 or 9/10 in it? I am not going to undock it untill I have T2 drones and good cloaking skills. Anything else I need to focus on? |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Fatal Ascension
684
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Posted - 2014.01.08 09:39:00 -
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erg cz wrote:Thank you. Very usefull. I just finished building up my first Stratios and I am going to use it exactly as described. Do you think I can run DED 8/10 or 9/10 in it? I am not going to undock it untill I have T2 drones and good cloaking skills. Anything else I need to focus on?
It wont run an 8/10. It can do a 6/10 with some money thrown at it, but it just doesnt have the dps or tank to handle anything bigger. Remember it is still a cruiser albeit particularly sexy, but not very combat orientated.
I use mine to cruise around doing data/relic sites and then swapping out in a mobile depo for the occational doable fight... but then i live in null so its a bit easier - Nulla Curas |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1396
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Posted - 2014.01.08 09:39:00 -
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erg cz wrote:Thank you. Very usefull. I just finished building up my first Stratios and I am going to use it exactly as described. Do you think I can run DED 8/10 or 9/10 in it? I am not going to undock it untill I have T2 drones and good cloaking skills. Anything else I need to focus on? i have never used the Stratios however given what I have heard they shoule be able to easily run 6 to 8/10. There is no official 9/10.
10/10s vary in difficulty with Gurista n Serps being easiest (afaik) and Bloods being tough as hell. Ill leave it up to Stratios pilots as to whether theyre soloable or not.
Your core skills, T2 weapon skills (drone or T2 DDA) and decent tanking mods is what you will need. Dont worry too much about T2 otherwise imo. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1036
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:39:00 -
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erg cz wrote:Thank you. Very usefull. I just finished building up my first Stratios and I am going to use it exactly as described. Do you think I can run DED 8/10 or 9/10 in it? I am not going to undock it untill I have T2 drones and good cloaking skills. Anything else I need to focus on?
I'm not sure if the stratios has the damage needed, without giving up to much tank, only being able to bring 4 drones hurts your dps a lot.
Why are you not using the proteus?, i'm guessing you already maxed out gallente cruiser. It's has the same drone dps as the stratios, but so much more utility. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4250
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:11:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:[quote=erg cz] There is no official 9/10.
Fleet Staging point (all pirate races) is the 9/10 and it is official, When you get Fleet Staging point point as an escalation from a named hum or find it as a sig, when you warp to it the pop up tells you it's a DED 9/10.
FSP was once an unrated escalation chain/plex. Rather than put a real 9/10 in, CCP took FSP, changed the text of the 1st stage's pop up, made it impossible for it it end early (like how unrated plexes can fail at end point) and changed the stage 3 station/boss to always drop at least a 22nd tier OPE (when FSP was an unrated plex, it would sometimes drop nothing but tech1 items, not any more).
But yea, FSP is the official DED 9/10. It was mentioned in the patch notes of the patch where CCP added some other complexes (they counted changing FSP to a ded as an 'add' lol). |
Dirk Massive
D.O.O.M.
28
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:36:00 -
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Infinity has become one of my favorite posters on these fourms, I always find what they say very interesting, and I leave their posts feeling freshly educated.
Thanks! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
206
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:05:00 -
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Dirk Massive wrote:Infinity has become one of my favorite posters on these fourms, I always find what they say very interesting, and I leave their posts feeling freshly educated. Thanks! lol, keep reading man, infinity derps just as hard as the rest of us.
iv enjoyed this one though. If in doubt...do...excessively. |
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1400
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Posted - 2014.01.10 05:50:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:[quote=erg cz] There is no official 9/10.
Fleet Staging point (all pirate races) is the 9/10 and it is official, When you get Fleet Staging point point as an escalation from a named hum or find it as a sig, when you warp to it the pop up tells you it's a DED 9/10. FSP was once an unrated escalation chain/plex. Rather than put a real 9/10 in, CCP took FSP, changed the text of the 1st stage's pop up, made it impossible for it it end early (like how unrated plexes can fail at end point) and changed the stage 3 station/boss to always drop at least a 22nd tier OPE (when FSP was an unrated plex, it would sometimes drop nothing but tech1 items, not any more). But yea, FSP is the official DED 9/10. It was mentioned in the patch notes of the patch where CCP added some other complexes (they counted changing FSP to a ded as an 'add' lol). Edit: link to the post where the patch notes are linked https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80333 Cool. Learn something new everyday :) thanks |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1192
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:51:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:[quote=erg cz] There is no official 9/10.
Fleet Staging point (all pirate races) is the 9/10 and it is official, When you get Fleet Staging point point as an escalation from a named hum or find it as a sig, when you warp to it the pop up tells you it's a DED 9/10. FSP was once an unrated escalation chain/plex. Rather than put a real 9/10 in, CCP took FSP, changed the text of the 1st stage's pop up, made it impossible for it it end early (like how unrated plexes can fail at end point) and changed the stage 3 station/boss to always drop at least a 22nd tier OPE (when FSP was an unrated plex, it would sometimes drop nothing but tech1 items, not any more). But yea, FSP is the official DED 9/10. It was mentioned in the patch notes of the patch where CCP added some other complexes (they counted changing FSP to a ded as an 'add' lol). Edit: link to the post where the patch notes are linked https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80333 Cool. Learn something new everyday :) thanks
Same thing with serpentis and angel "6/10s" being the logistical outpost and mineral acquisition. i don't believe these sites can fail to escalate. Doesn't change the fact that they're way more difficult and dangerous to solo than the serp/angel 8/10 or 10/10. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
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Aralieus
The Inf1dels Insidious Empire
199
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:35:00 -
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Nice read...never been one for plexing but I might just jump into after all this great info. Oderint Dum Metuant |
Infinity Ziona
Drags are Bud
1624
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Posted - 2014.02.09 10:02:00 -
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Aralieus wrote:Nice read...never been one for plexing but I might just jump into after all this great info. Thanks. Yeah its good fun, specially on a secret alt to avoid politics :) Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Sibyyl
University of Caille Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.02.11 08:35:00 -
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This was a lovely read. Thanks for taking the time to write it all down!
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Funky Koval
Bad Artists
10
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:08:00 -
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Reading this something just occurred to me that I hadn't thought about before.
Is it possible to shut down an entrance gate to a plex by deploying a bubble near it? (Obviously - it would have to be done by an alt.).
Intys and nullfied T3s would presumably be unaffected, but still might be worth the trouble (if it works at all).
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4660
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:20:00 -
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Funky Koval wrote:Reading this something just occurred to me that I hadn't thought about before.
Is it possible to shut down an entrance gate to a plex by deploying a bubble near it? (Obviously - it would have to be done by an alt.).
Intys and nullfied T3s would presumably be unaffected, but still might be worth the trouble (if it works at all).
You just make your plex much easier to scan down if it's a plex you found by probing. If it's an escalation you just gave them a way to find a plex that they could not before (escalations, like missions, cannot be scanned themselves but anything inside it like YOU or a bubble can and the gate counts as"inside"). I once lost an escalation plex to someone who scanned me down because I was trying to finish it before they found me instead of being smart and leaving till they left lol.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2415664#post2415664
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Funky Koval
Bad Artists
11
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:You just make your plex much easier to scan down if it's a plex you found by probing. If it's an escalation you just gave them a way to find a plex that they could not before (escalations, like missions, cannot be scanned themselves but anything inside it like YOU or a bubble can and the gate counts as"inside"). I once lost an escalation plex to someone who scanned me down because I was trying to finish it before they found me instead of being smart and leaving till they left lol. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2415664#post2415664
Well I kinda assumed you (or the plex, more likely) would get scanned down anyway; not that it's hard to do anyways.
Escalations are a different thing, agreed.
What I guess it could accomplish is prevent random competition in the form of solo explorers / PvPers from bothering you; obviously if local is too crowded (or starts filling up) it's probably not very practical, but then agaiin, nothing else is ;). |
Infinity Ziona
Drags are Bud
1650
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:30:00 -
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I once tried to anchor a bubble in a plex but got the dead space message so appears you can't inside. Haven't tried the external gate but have been told that counts as dead space too. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1664
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:33:00 -
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Thats a pretty interesting thought. Does a anchorable bubble lock down an acceleration gate? Generally people with combat probes are in bonused ships and will scan you anyway (although a bubble would make it super easy).
It would need to be a decent sized bubble, as the gates are large.
Infinity Ziona wrote:I once tried to anchor a bubble in a plex but got the dead space message so appears you can't inside. Haven't tried the external gate but have been told that counts as dead space too.
Yeah, outer gates are weird. You can warp to them at range, but you can't warp to them from within the pocket. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
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Funky Koval
Bad Artists
11
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:43:00 -
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Batelle wrote: It would need to be a decent sized bubble, as the gates are large.
Well you could anchor it directly behind the gate.
Or better yet - somewhere in space between the gate and the the pocket it points to. That however, assumes you can drop a warpable bookmark there, which I don't think will actually work. |
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
99
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Posted - 2014.02.12 07:10:00 -
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I hate to say it because it is expensive but you could drop an ESS at the entrance gate. Anyone entering it will be announced in local. Unfortunately is it a single use only and if you have to warp out of a pocket and return to announced it to everyone what you are doing. Ok, maybe not such a good idea. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
735
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Posted - 2014.02.12 08:33:00 -
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Tzar Sinak wrote:I hate to say it because it is expensive but you could drop an ESS at the entrance gate. Anyone entering it will be announced in local. Unfortunately is it a single use only and if you have to warp out of a pocket and return to announced it to everyone what you are doing. Ok, maybe not such a good idea.
Most people flying tengus can probe the encounter, but won't go in, if you got out, because they won't want you behind them. They may try going in, if you are already in. The usual thing thus is the standoff, which the ESS won't make any difference for.
Nobody flying a cerberus, stabber, nomen, vaga, interceptor etc, can get into the plex without having an overview helper, or by prescanning, which happens almost never. ie I'd just be putting the plex on overview unnecessarily for lots of mobile skirmishing and tackling and dropping types to get at it.
All non cloak warping ships can be reliably protected against by shortening d-scan till they are only on it, if they are on the way to the plex - particularly in my system with only 2 gates and a short gate-gate route. Easy for me to tell if I am the droid they are looking for and they aren't moving along.
Even more terrible would be giving away the position of an escalation with it (which when really paranoid I will shoot the wrecks in, which means its unfindable unless my ship is in it uncloaked).
Roaming probing plexers have to be more careful of residents than vice versa, as its a little more likely the resident has the BM. Moving about and doing a different plex in an empty system is usually the better strategy for a roaming player. |
Jonas Staal
Interstellar Booty Hunters
56
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Posted - 2014.03.03 10:54:00 -
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How safe are the Giant Secure Containers to use? Can they get probed down? |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
821
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Posted - 2014.03.03 13:04:00 -
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Jonas Staal wrote:How safe are the Giant Secure Containers to use? Can they get probed down?
They can't be probed down, but someone with good bookmarks can get onto them via d-scan.
I clear my system of them, and that usually gets rid of whatever miniprof hunter put it there too.
Most other people just ignore them, so they'll be probably be ok, but there are better and worse places to place them. My system is very small, and its very hard to put anything out of common paths, and its an obvious residents and in use system (big anom list from the ihub) - if you leave it more on a travel - pipe system that nobody rats in, and you leave out of range of celestials and gate-gate paths, it will likely remain untouched as long as you need.
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Lutya Seer
Wetchik Estate
0
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:47:00 -
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This is a really cool guide.
I actually tried doing this just last week by going to Venal (Guristas NPC space). After over an hour I couldn't find any complexes at all. I was not impressed.
I also used to live in Pure Blind sov space and found when scouting for plexes that I would often log on, scan for 1-2 hours, and not found anything but wormholes.
How many plexes do you normally find per hour and do you have any tips on how to find them? I've made good money in plexes before (over 500mil per site) but it seems when you calculate the time it takes to find one and add in the risk in 0.0 it hardly seems worth it. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
824
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Posted - 2014.03.04 00:25:00 -
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Lutya Seer wrote:This is a really cool guide.
I actually tried doing this just last week by going to Venal (Guristas NPC space). After over an hour I couldn't find any complexes at all. I was not impressed.
I also used to live in Pure Blind sov space and found when scouting for plexes that I would often log on, scan for 1-2 hours, and not found anything but wormholes.
How many plexes do you normally find per hour and do you have any tips on how to find them? I've made good money in plexes before (over 500mil per site) but it seems when you calculate the time it takes to find one and add in the risk in 0.0 it hardly seems worth it.
I'd expect that competition for venal deds to be pretty high, as they are politically accessible to everybody. Whenever there is excess competition for sigs, the net effect is to "sweep" the space.
Also CFC is off deployment, so local population in the area is probably higher than usual, which may make Zionas preferred strategy of searching sov space near npc space that you can base out of, harder to do than normal.
I get about 10 deds per month in my system, which will give you an idea of guristas signature turnover. Given I'm only online for a session a day, and they occasionally get stolen, I'd expect to have to scan about 6 systems to get a DED on average in lightly populated areas, and like everything that is random, it probably streaks between 3 and 20 a fair bit.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1767
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Posted - 2014.03.04 10:03:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Lutya Seer wrote:This is a really cool guide.
I actually tried doing this just last week by going to Venal (Guristas NPC space). After over an hour I couldn't find any complexes at all. I was not impressed.
I also used to live in Pure Blind sov space and found when scouting for plexes that I would often log on, scan for 1-2 hours, and not found anything but wormholes.
How many plexes do you normally find per hour and do you have any tips on how to find them? I've made good money in plexes before (over 500mil per site) but it seems when you calculate the time it takes to find one and add in the risk in 0.0 it hardly seems worth it. I'd expect that competition for venal deds to be pretty high, as they are politically accessible to everybody. Whenever there is excess competition for sigs, the net effect is to "sweep" the space. Also CFC is off deployment, so local population in the area is probably higher than usual, which may make Zionas preferred strategy of searching sov space near npc space that you can base out of, harder to do than normal. I get about 10 deds per month in my system, which will give you an idea of guristas signature turnover. Given I'm only online for a session a day, and they occasionally get stolen, I'd expect to have to scan about 6 systems to get a DED on average in lightly populated areas, and like everything that is random, it probably streaks between 3 and 20 a fair bit. I'm an Aussie too which means I'm most active on low pop hours. I have some spots which I find a lot of sigs in that often go un -run for days. Probably due to them not being the quickest routes between two points, dead ends, no bridges etc. There are also some parts of null which are inhabited by more PvP minded alliances that have more sigs. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Lutya Seer
Wetchik Estate
1
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Posted - 2014.03.04 21:31:00 -
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So here is your guide summarized:
1. Be an Aussie.
2. Don't not be an aussie.
3. Profit!
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1767
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Posted - 2014.03.04 22:35:00 -
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Lutya Seer wrote:So here is your guide summarized: 1. Be an Aussie. 2. Don't not be an aussie. 3. Profit! Nah it helps to play in low pop periods but if you go to the right places you'll still get a decent amount of sigs. I'll email you a list of the best spots I've found. Also once the new drone changes come out you'll be able to run sigs in their down times for Drone regions for the sisters BPCs. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
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