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A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:49:00 -
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Almost all of these problems still exist.
Don't keep putting fixing them off until some nebulous date in the future. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1825
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:52:00 -
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"Subcaps are useless in fleet fights"
Uhhh... I don't even know what to say about this, or the fact that you're dredging it up again. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:58:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:"Subcaps are useless in fleet fights"
Uhhh... I don't even know what to say about this, or the fact that you're dredging it up again.
Again? I have never posted about it before. And if you don't know what to say--which, by your own admission, you don't--don't say anything at all, lest you look the fool (which you do). |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
393
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:59:00 -
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I didn't know Fozzie had been promoted to EVE Overlord.
Problems will always exist. There is also no easy way of fixing many of them. Some issues take a lot of time and resources to solve, and CCP is sometimes hesitant to try and tackle them, instead taking on simpler things that can actually be fixed.
Be happy that they acknowledge these issues are in fact issues. They'll get to everything, eventually. Nothing in an MMO as complex and old as EVE is going to be simple. |
A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:02:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:I didn't know Fozzie had been promoted to EVE Overlord.
Problems will always exist. There is also no easy way of fixing many of them. Some issues take a lot of time and resources to solve, and CCP is sometimes hesitant to try and tackle them, instead taking on simpler things that can actually be fixed.
Be happy that they acknowledge these issues are in fact issues. They'll get to everything, eventually. Nothing in an MMO as complex and old as EVE is going to be simple.
It's Fozzie's job to balance ships, and if you read the CSM minutes you would know that they've given capital/super balancing the 18-months treatment...also known as "the maybe" treatment, also known as "we aren't getting around to it for another five years or until everyone quits over it." |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
860
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:10:00 -
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Or possibly given they actually have done the rest of the rebalancing in exactly the order they have claimed & some of it ahead of schedule, they will get to it within 18 months. But keep being paranoid & delusional |
A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:26:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or possibly given they actually have done the rest of the rebalancing in exactly the order they have claimed & some of it ahead of schedule, they will get to it within 18 months. But keep being paranoid & delusional
They have attempted to balance capitals and supers a whopping 1 time since they were introduced.
I'm not holding my breath for it to happen again soon. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
397
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:29:00 -
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What was it that someone said about Player Owned Structures?
It only effects a small % of the player base.
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A Research Alt
Perkone Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:43:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote: What was it that someone said about Player Owned Structures?
It only effects a small % of the player base.
I can't tell if you're being serious and trying to say capital/super balance isn't important or trying to make a point about how POSes affect nearly everything in the game and that CCP's reasoning was hilariously wrong. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4348
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Posted - 2014.01.03 22:57:00 -
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I didn't know that capitals were considered an issue in NPC corps. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
714
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:00:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or possibly given they actually have done the rest of the rebalancing in exactly the order they have claimed & some of it ahead of schedule, they will get to it within 18 months. But keep being paranoid & delusional They have attempted to balance capitals and supers a whopping 1 time since they were introduced. I'm not holding my breath for it to happen again soon.
Oh, you wanted them to go "T1 rebalancing...Done, ok, what is next? Of course! Supers and Caps!" Fluffy Bunny Pic! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6063
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:05:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:A Research Alt wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or possibly given they actually have done the rest of the rebalancing in exactly the order they have claimed & some of it ahead of schedule, they will get to it within 18 months. But keep being paranoid & delusional They have attempted to balance capitals and supers a whopping 1 time since they were introduced. I'm not holding my breath for it to happen again soon. Oh, you wanted them to go "T1 rebalancing...Done, ok, what is next? Of course! Supers and Caps!" Well after battleships, capitals are the next t1s ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
625
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:16:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:I didn't know that capitals were considered an issue in NPC corps.
People post on their mains? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:17:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:I didn't know that capitals were considered an issue in NPC corps. People post on their mains?
People do; scrubs don't.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8073
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:19:00 -
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Fortunately if you remove supercapitals from the game there are only 8 hulls to balance instead of 17. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3229
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:24:00 -
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Moving this from General Discussion to Features & Ideas Discussion, EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
970
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:25:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote: What was it that someone said about Player Owned Structures?
It only effects a small % of the player base.
I can't tell if you're being serious and trying to say capital/super balance isn't important or trying to make a point about how POSes affect nearly everything in the game and that CCP's reasoning was hilariously wrong. It IS important, but CCP cant touch it too much right now because of the playerbase reaction.
Goons for the longest time have had the "CCP pet" favoritism issue, with many enemies seeing their doctrines nerfed due to "OP" when fighting goons, while the nerf was justified it received goons a negative rep.
and with many ex-goon devs gone, theyve entered a war and started having serious trouble, and call for a slowcat heavy nerf, now if CCP goes and nerfs slowcats in any serious way in the first war goons have the legitimate chance of losing, it threatens to do more harm than good.
capital balancing will likely take place once a clear victor for this war is revealed.
(Because whatever you MIGHT say, intentional or not, if CCP nerfed carrier's ability to fight mass subcaps, enough that it causes N3/PL a loss, that WOULD be CCP intervention in favor of goonswarm, which they dotn wanna do).
all this aswell as there still ebing SHITTONS OF SHIPS TO BALANCE, capitals were always intended to be last in that order. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2165
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:34:00 -
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You do realise goonswarm guys have been calling for a drone assist nerf for a very long time, right? |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
972
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Posted - 2014.01.04 08:34:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:You do realise goonswarm guys have been calling for a drone assist nerf for a very long time, right? drone assist isnt the new nerf theyve been calling for, hell, guys in N3/PL were calling for a drone assist nerf in fountain because we werent allowed to do anything in a fight excpet "lul bombers, everyone pull drones, okay put them out, come back in 5 minutes"
new nerf involves specifically slowcats getting nerfed directly, whether through tanking or ability to project damage on subcaps. since a good number of goons posters refuse to acknowledge carriers were the subcap defense ships in the capital lineup, and keep arguing they should barely be able to fight subcaps, because throwing subcap blobs at them isnt winning the war.
im not saying all the goons ar eposting like this, but a good chunk and a LOT of their lesser "allies" ***** about it constantly around this and various forums, as well as any chat that caps come up in.
frankly, we wouldnt even be arguing the problem if goons hadnt turtled into a NAP treaty with the vast majority of null for so long, if they hadnt N3 and friends would never have built and maintained the capital fleet they have. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2166
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:58:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Danika Princip wrote:You do realise goonswarm guys have been calling for a drone assist nerf for a very long time, right? drone assist isnt the new nerf theyve been calling for, hell, guys in N3/PL were calling for a drone assist nerf in fountain because we werent allowed to do anything in a fight excpet "lul bombers, everyone pull drones, okay put them out, come back in 5 minutes" new nerf involves specifically slowcats getting nerfed directly, whether through tanking or ability to project damage on subcaps. since a good number of goons posters refuse to acknowledge carriers were the subcap defense ships in the capital lineup, and keep arguing they should barely be able to fight subcaps, because throwing subcap blobs at them isnt winning the war. im not saying all the goons ar eposting like this, but a good chunk and a LOT of their lesser "allies" ***** about it constantly around this and various forums, as well as any chat that caps come up in. frankly, we wouldnt even be arguing the problem if goons hadnt turtled into a NAP treaty with the vast majority of null for so long, if they hadnt N3 and friends would never have built and maintained the capital fleet they have.
I was in fountain too you know, and I distinctly remember calls to nerf sentry assist from our side too. If there had actually been a proper fight, they'd have been louder.
And it's not purely aimed at slowcats, it's sentry assist in general. |
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