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Blitz Haegen
7th Dynasty Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.04 22:08:00 -
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With the right skills, is there possibly any frigate on the market that could do L3s solo? |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1974
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Posted - 2014.01.04 22:18:00 -
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Honestly, any assault frigate should be able to swing L3s with good skills. Any kiting ship should be able to swing them (albeit slowly). What did you have in mind? |
Ryder 'ook
Die..Brut
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Posted - 2014.01.04 22:43:00 -
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For a new player, the standard recommendation for L3 security missions would be a meta-fitted Battlecruiser.
Just saying... Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home. |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
114
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Posted - 2014.01.04 23:17:00 -
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T2 Assault, navy, pirate. I fly a hookbill on them sometimes. Need SP and at least T2 modules. GÇö+¬GÇö |
Blitz Haegen
7th Dynasty Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:29:00 -
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I have a Worm but low SP. When I can get T2 everything in it including the fitting skills to cram it all in, I was hoping that could hang with L3s. Thoughts on that? Hookbills are great, but I got tired of kiting.
Otherwise I'll train into a Drake with Rapid Heavy Launchers or something. |
Blitz Haegen
7th Dynasty Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:30:00 -
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Ryder 'ook wrote:For a new player, the standard recommendation for L3 security missions would be a meta-fitted Battlecruiser.
Just saying...
If you knew me you would know that I do anything "standard." But I am able to plex soon so I guess that doesn't matter. On the other hand, a Drake looks pretty sweet... |
Bouh Revetoile
TIPIAKS
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:52:00 -
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An Ishkur does lvl3 fine. I guess any AF will do the same.
I wasn't sure about navy and pirate frigs, but if Zhilia Mann says it's possible, it probably is.
I tried my Ishkur on lvl4, but got killed by a cloud in recon... I think an AF can go through some of them but would take too many time because of low dps to clear battleships. |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
114
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Posted - 2014.01.05 02:18:00 -
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Blitz Haegen wrote:I have a Worm but low SP. When I can get T2 everything in it including the fitting skills to cram it all in, I was hoping that could hang with L3s. Thoughts on that? Hookbills are great, but I got tired of kiting.
Otherwise I'll train into a Drake with Rapid Heavy Launchers or something. Not just great but cheap. CPU is a pain, but otherwise two can be built compared to one worm or assault frig. Of course if you are going to go over the top on a build, assault would/could be the safer hull. GÇö+¬GÇö |
Dato Koppla
PillowFighters Inc Stealth Wear Inc.
467
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Posted - 2014.01.05 02:21:00 -
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Just go for a Drake or Cerb, sure you can do L3s in an AF and maybe even some faction frigs but it will take far too long. |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
114
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Posted - 2014.01.05 03:01:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Just go for a Drake or Cerb, sure you can do L3s in an AF and maybe even some faction frigs but it will take far too long. Yeah it's more about if you like and train frigs. If you are planning to max frigs and their weaps, then it's worth it. If more about running missions than cruisers, BC's and BS's for training. Many train on BC for lvl3, then the BC is also good on lvl4 with skills. GÇö+¬GÇö |
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dilly nay
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:38:00 -
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there is no L3 mission a 3mil~ sp player cant do inside a brutix when flying amarr space. caldari space you may need help for one or two but the rest are cake. idk about gall/min space |
Roseline Penshar
Illusory Superiority
37
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:13:00 -
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i use cyclone to do L3 and it's doing fine, or use T3 or command ship will do it more easy lol
as for AF yes it can but for fun only not for income |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1977
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:40:00 -
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Personally I wouldn't take a Worm out for the job, but I'm quite sure it can be done. This looks solid enough to tank at close range while dealing adequate (in a relative sense) damage:
[Worm, L3 stuff] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Power Diagnostic System II
1MN Afterburner II Medium Shield Extender II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
[empty high slot] Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Core Defense Field Purger I Small Core Defense Field Purger I
Hornet II x5 |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Insidious Empire
298
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Posted - 2014.01.06 07:46:00 -
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Assault frigs can do them, but it will take awhile.
For a newer player I would recommend a Myrmidon or Prophecy if you have drone skills (with the current meta drone boats are amazing so you should be training up drone skills). Drake has a good tank but crap dps. Ferox is decent if you have the hybrid gun skills. Brutix has crazy good dps but for the love of god why are you flying gallente without drone skills. Harbinger is good if you prefer lazors to drones (though the drone route is good for amarr now too). |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
114
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:29:00 -
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Theodoric Darkwind wrote:Assault frigs can do them, but it will take awhile. You mean for low SP? Never takes me a while in a hookbill. I blow through most of the missions while taking little damage. I just run afterburner, flip light missiles and then spin a hardner if they even manage to hit me. I can do it faster with a drake, but a well built frig with some skill is nothing short of quite capable. GÇö+¬GÇö |
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
131
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Posted - 2014.01.06 12:44:00 -
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All t2 combat hulls (including inties) can do L3s fine. Here is what I personally use, it really finishes the missions faster than my Drake (but slower than my Cerb).
[Hawk, The Shawkhank Redemption] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Cap Recharger II Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster Gistum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier Gistum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Empty
Small Bay Loading Accelerator II Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/68101-The-Shawkhank-Redemption.html#ixzz2pccHvrR2 |
Precurseur
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:23:00 -
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Whatever line you're intending to fly, you can always skip forward a bit and train into a BC (just for the L3's). Don't cross train so early in your character - keep with the same line and just move further along. The reasoning behind that is you'll need (needed?) those at L5 for HACs/HICs/CS/etc later.
I don't think that made much sense, but meh.
Whatever you decide, stick with the same race/weapons and specialise into them early on. Any BC can do any L3 and any BS can do any L4 and you'll be a lot more pokey with specialised skills and T2 mods as opposed to having everything everywhere and being mediocre.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
120
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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:38:00 -
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+1 on the assault frigates they can even do level 4s, though they tend to be a little bit mission specific, you kind of need to match the boat to the pirates.
You could always try an Asteros though the same ISK buys a basic T1 battleship of course.
Is their a specific reason to use frigates instead of cruisers or battlecruisers ? |
Blitz Haegen
7th Dynasty Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:15:00 -
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I haven't checked this thread in a bit, but this is a lot of good feedback.
I have decent drone skils ( though not awesome) for my Worm. I like frigs because they are fast and hard to hit as a result. But after reading these replies I have decided that training into a BC would be best for when I get to L3s. I could go either Gallente or Caldari at this point, but I like a good shield tank so Caldari it is. Spending time in training frigs could be used for training a BC which it seems is more appropriate.
Over a decade of experiences with this game being so old, it is hard to discount tried and true practices. |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
116
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:46:00 -
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[Caldari Navy Hookbill - CNH Oblivion] (one of my actives - balanced) low slot Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
med slot Small Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II (or other) Shield Boost Amplifier II F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Regenerator (low CPU choice) 1MN Afterburner II
hi slot Light Missile Launcher II / Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II / Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II / Scourge Fury Light Missile
rig slot Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Core Defense Field Extender I
But yeah, BC the way to go if just getting into lvl3's. imo drake /w heavy missiles etc. GÇö+¬GÇö |
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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
278
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:58:00 -
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You already fly a worm.
Move up to the Gila!
Best L3 ship in game. |
Maxor Swift
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:55:00 -
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Blitz Haegen wrote:I have a Worm but low SP. When I can get T2 everything in it including the fitting skills to cram it all in, I was hoping that could hang with L3s. Thoughts on that? Hookbills are great, but I got tired of kiting.
Otherwise I'll train into a Drake with Rapid Heavy Launchers or something.
You will have to use Assault launchers as anything Rapid has a 40 second reload and a tiny tiny ammo clip making PVE painfull at best and dangerous at worse.
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Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
118
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:54:00 -
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Maxor Swift wrote:
You will have to use Assault launchers as anything Rapid has a 40 second reload and a tiny tiny ammo clip making PVE painfull at best and dangerous at worse.
I use a couple on a BS (2/8), mostly when there are going to be elite frigs jamming, pretty efficient mixed with drones. But yes, not something I'd want on a drake, cruiser sized assaults or heavies were made for that... well efficient enough and with the faster lock of the drake.
GÇö+¬GÇö |
Blitz Haegen
7th Dynasty Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:01:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:You already fly a worm.
Move up to the Gila!
Best L3 ship in game.
I've been checking this one out. I want it someday. But it is decided. Drake. I did a fleet with another worm for L3s today. It was fun and not hard. I won't try it solo that is for sure. |
Fred P
Carebears of New Eden
2
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:50:00 -
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To answer the question in the OP, I did L3 missions in a breacher with really poor missile skills. Did The Blokade just fine, so it wasn't just the easy ones. It was before the rebalance, though, so I assume it would do even better now. |
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