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Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:10:00 -
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So my account is about to expire and I wondered if there has been any wrap up concering the Somer Blink misconduct.
Tried Forum and Google search but couldn't find a trace of an apology or even an attempt to revert CCPs wrongdoings.
Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.
Apologies if the respective search engines didn't come up with the correct topic, but I'm sure someone can point me to it :). |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8100
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:11:00 -
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Most of us have given up on any hope of receiving a proper response from CCP on this. My EVE Videos |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3008
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:11:00 -
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No. Nothing for quite a while.
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howling wind
I Swear She Was 18 Li3 Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:12:00 -
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Damsel in Distress wrote:Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.
Sounds legit.
Damsel in Distress wrote:So my account is about to expire...
Let it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6086
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:17:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Most of us have given up on any hope of receiving a proper response from CCP on this. It's the rational thing to do.
Good honest contributors to the community, what can you do ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Most of us have given up on any hope of receiving a proper response from CCP on this. It's the rational thing to do. Good honest contributors to the community, what can you do
Well - the most rational thing to do is letting your sub lapse.
That's what you can do and that's why I'm asking.
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
535
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:27:00 -
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how much did you lose? here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4353
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:28:00 -
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Damsel in Distress wrote:Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20
This didn't even come close to how bad the T20 incident was. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
590
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:31:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:... you should see a dev blog in a few weeks. We are still waiting.. since October... |
Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:37:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Damsel in Distress wrote:Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20 This didn't even come close to how bad the T20 incident was.
It's all in the eye of the beholder. In terms of isk value donated due to dev favouritism, it definitely was more severe.
In terms of strategic impact on a given situation in Eve, it most certainly was less severe.
Anyhow - that's not the question. So what was CCPs final verdict again? |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6086
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:54:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:CCP Guard wrote:... you should see a dev blog in a few weeks. We are still waiting.. since October... Yep, that's just the way it is in EvE Online.
Case closed. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8799
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:56:00 -
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This thread will end well.
And by well, I mean locked.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
535
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:59:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This thread will end well.
And by well, I mean locked.
^ here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:07:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This thread will end well.
And by well, I mean locked.
I couldn't see why - it's a perfectly legit question on a subject that concerned parts of the community not so long ago and that apparently hasn't received a conlcusive answer.
It's a simple, factual question. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
90
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:17:00 -
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Damsel in Distress wrote: Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.
Are you actually serious?!? That is the stupidest thing I have read for a loooong time and I-¦ve been fighting TEST in FW the last weeks. |
Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:21:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:
Are you actually serious?!? That is the stupidest thing I have read for a loooong time and I-¦ve been fighting TEST in FW the last weeks.
So?
I was around when T20 happened and ever since.
Is that relevant to the question?
No.
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
90
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:29:00 -
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I think you misunderstood my question. Are you actually serious that the SOMER drama was more serious than T20? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4353
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:32:00 -
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Damsel in Distress wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Damsel in Distress wrote:Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20 This didn't even come close to how bad the T20 incident was. It's all in the eye of the beholder. In terms of isk value donated due to dev favouritism, it definitely was more severe. In terms of strategic impact on a given situation in Eve, it most certainly was less severe. Anyhow - that's not the question. So what was CCPs final verdict again?
In both cases it was far less severe. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
Kawaiian Breeze
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:42:00 -
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Absolute silence and hoping it just goes away
While still gifting them with one-of-a-kind half a trillion isk ships |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8102
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:43:00 -
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Who cares about the comparison? It was still serious and it deserves a proper discussion, not silence from CCP. My EVE Videos |
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Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
2139
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Most of us have given up on any hope of receiving a proper response from CCP on this.
Refusing to even acknowledge an issue exists became the "proper response" a loooong time ago. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6087
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:48:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Who cares about the comparison? It was still serious and it deserves a proper discussion, not silence from CCP. Neither the response we need, nor the one we deserve
But it's the one we get ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
83
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:52:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:I think you misunderstood my question. Are you actually serious that the SOMER drama was more serious than T20?
Yes - the channels the money went into was less obvious, but the amount of money 'donated' to SB was way higher and whilst T20 was a single devs misconduct which CCP apologized for and founded the 'clownpuppets to sanctify misbehaviour' as a consecquence (hi malcanis), SB was official company policy.
Anyway - I don't want this thread to decline into some discussion on who did what and what was worse. So please, mods, remove posts not related to the primary question.
I just want an answer to the original question:
What's CCPs final word on the Somer Blink issue? |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
528
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Posted - 2014.01.05 05:59:00 -
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I think they lost their dictionary.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Kawaiian Breeze
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:00:00 -
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T20 was pretty bad because of the direct involvement but that was almost exclusively ingame benefits. The thing about Somer and the sweetheart deals that HE got and is still getting generate massive real life money profits. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8800
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:01:00 -
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Id love to see an actual response on this, but we will more than likely just get a link to the 'third party disbursement blahty blah' thread claiming that they already answered it and this thread will be closed as a duplicate.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
12
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:02:00 -
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CCP lost a lot of their balls, sad to say. They should admit they f'ed up and give everyone a damm Ish Scrop :P |
Kawaiian Breeze
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:03:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Id love to see an actual response on this, but we will more than likely just get a link to the 'third party disbursement blahty blah' thread claiming that they already answered it and this thread will be closed as a duplicate.
Wasnt Navigator in charge of the community team and wasnt he the one making all these community spotlight posts on Blink? Wasnt he the latest CCP to o7 out? |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
870
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:10:00 -
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They did already answer it. IWS's were given to a number of groups. They realise that the procedure wasn't robust & transparent and have stopped all give aways while they implement a better way of handling community give aways. The fact you feel Somer are not a community group is irrelevant, CCP decided they were and recognised them along side five other groups who got IWS issued to them.
Somers ISK for GTC (In the form of Blink credits) was reviewed and reclassified as unacceptable practice when originally it had been classified as allowed, and all agencies using the method (Again, not just Somer) were given a set time period to get their house in order. Judging by the IA I got, and I believe a Dev posted something similar but can't confirm, they realised in hindsight they probably gave too long a grace period, but as it related to contractual issues & RL money, once that grace period was given, it couldn't be reviewed again without risk of lawsuits. If Somer continue to do this even in secret, then they are 'now' engaging in RMT activities and will be banned.
They already clearly answered the other give away as well, see the first paragraph for 'reviews on future give aways'
The only thing they haven't answered is what form future give aways might take, but until they answer that, they have stated they have all give aways on hold, and so far seem to be continuing that hold. If they start give aways up again without giving us that transparent process they promised, then we have a leg to stand on & complain, till then they have actually answered everything, just not the way you personally want them to so you are ignoring their replies.
And if you think any of it was an inside job, contact IA with your evidence. They will listen. Provided you have evidence linking them and not just tin foil conspiracy theories. |
Kawaiian Breeze
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.05 06:22:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:They already clearly answered the other give away as well, see the first paragraph for 'reviews on future give aways
But the damage is already done and after soo many giveaways and spotlights and lotteries and sweetheart deals- Somer is pretty much THE ONLY gambling website in EVE. Sure other folks can try to get in but they have to what- spam Jita with their low quality ads?
Somer sold a ton of GTC for CCP and in turn was rewarded. And no one can ever compete with that, ever.
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