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Pedro Zamotto
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:27:00 -
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Hi, I am new player in EVE. My account is still trial, so far I like the game after these 2-3 days, but I am not sure yet if I will subscribe.
Corporations don't accept trial account and I understand that. I was told that if I join the right corporation (whatever that is :) ), it will be helpful and it would take the game to another dimension, but I'm still trial.. so that will have to wait for now. What is there for me to do in order to really get an idea of the game, considering my trial restriction? So far I finished the career agent missions, all five of them, I have just a little under 5mil ISK and a few ships.. but now what? :)
When it comes to MMO's I am more of a PVE player, I like to explore all corners of the game maps and complete even the most difficult missions.
I know there are other missions in EVE. but how can I find them? My missions for the career agents took me sometimes to other systems and there I met other agents with other missions available for me, but I ignored them. Do I now just go randomly through systems and search every station for agents and missions?
Thank you very much for reading this, /Pedro |
Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:56:00 -
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Pedro Zamotto wrote:Corporations don't accept trial account and I understand that.
This isn't always true. Many corporations will accept trial accounts. If you have a good attitude and are willing to learn you should be able to find a group that is interested in taking you "under their wing" so to speak. This game is much better experienced with other players. If you decide to look for a corp, here is a good guide written by NightCrawler 85 on the topic.
As far as finding mission agents, you can use the agent finder in the station interface. When docked, go to the agents tab on the right and click agent finder. You can use the filters to search by level, corporation, faction, and type of mission.
www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Like to answer questions? Join my public channel in game:-áHouse Forelli |
Centis Adjani
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:01:00 -
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Especially about missions there is a separate area in this Forum at Eve Gameplay Center.
Here is a link to the EvELopia which explain a lot about the missions: Missions Overview Site
Here is a big Flow-Chart, what you can do in EvE (career): What to do in EvE Online
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:29:00 -
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Pedro Zamotto wrote:What is there for me to do in order to really get an idea of the game, considering my trial restriction? So far I finished the career agent missions, all five of them, I have just a little under 5mil ISK and a few ships.. but now what? The final part of the new player experience is the Sisters of Eve epic arc The Blood-Stained Stars. At least one of the career agents should have directed you there, unless that's been changed.
Got to the Sisters' Bureau in Arnon and talk to Sister Alitura. |
Robby Altair
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:55:00 -
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All good suggestions above. Here is one thing you can do to know the game. See the sights in rookie ships(Free). Look at the map and pick an interesting place. You might just make it. Go to low-sec. Go to null sec. Get blown up. Get pod killed. Get new clone & rookie ship(Free). Repeat. There is no fear. Best to experience this part of EVE sooner then later.
I love fearless new players. It is GIGO application development. |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
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Posted - 2014.01.05 23:18:00 -
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I often like to get Prima guides for new games I play, especially sandbox games mostly. But there is no official Prima guide for EVE, although this is ISK the Guide which is just as good, maybe better since it's updated, and free as a PDF.
At your point in the game, I always suggest The Blood-Stained Stars next. Epic arc, it's actually rather good.
And yes, some corps recruit trial players. Although, remaining in your newbie corp has many advantages too, at least while you get used to the game. Primarily with regular players in chat there helping answer questions, and it's also a good place to find other new players to do things with. GÇö+¬GÇö |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.01.05 23:36:00 -
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Pedro Zamotto wrote:Hi, I am new player in EVE. My account is still trial, so far I like the game after these 2-3 days, but I am not sure yet if I will subscribe.
Corporations don't accept trial account and I understand that. I was told that if I join the right corporation (whatever that is :) ), it will be helpful and it would take the game to another dimension, but I'm still trial.. so that will have to wait for now. What is there for me to do in order to really get an idea of the game, considering my trial restriction? So far I finished the career agent missions, all five of them, I have just a little under 5mil ISK and a few ships.. but now what? :)
When it comes to MMO's I am more of a PVE player, I like to explore all corners of the game maps and complete even the most difficult missions.
I know there are other missions in EVE. but how can I find them? My missions for the career agents took me sometimes to other systems and there I met other agents with other missions available for me, but I ignored them. Do I now just go randomly through systems and search every station for agents and missions?
Thank you very much for reading this, /Pedro
Welcome to EVE.
There are plenty of corporations out there that do take in trial accounts. As Cara linked, use NightCrawler's guide to find the corp for you.
As for now what:
1. Go to Arnon and start the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc missions. They are still part of the 'tutorial' and also gives you a little bit of experience in the UI and a good amount of ISK.
2. After that, the world is open for you to conquer and you can do what ever you want in the sandbox.
You can be a pure PvE player. There are plenty of PvE things to do, just keep 1 simple fact in mind. EVE is a PvP game, and no matter where you are in space, people CAN shoot you. This doesn't mean it's all a slaughter fest and you can't fly around in safety, but don't expect that there will be a "no PvP" zone in EVE.
As for other missions:
In NPC controlled systems, there are NPC stations. Most of those stations have mission agents. You can pick any station and run missions from them. You don't have HAVE to move from agent to agent if you don't want it.
Basically, there are 5 level of agents (level 1 being the easiest and where you start, up to level 5 which is the hardest. Level 5 is also always in low-sec, where as level 1 - 4 are in high-sec).
And each agent just pulls missions out of a mission pool available for that agent. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3511
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Posted - 2014.01.05 23:40:00 -
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Robby Altair wrote:All good suggestions above. Here is one thing you can do to know the game. See the sights in rookie ships(Free). Look at the map and pick an interesting place. You might just make it. Go to low-sec. Go to null sec. Get blown up. Get pod killed. Get new clone & rookie ship(Free). Repeat. There is no fear. Best to experience this part of EVE sooner then later.
I love fearless new players.
I love this reply.
I fully agree....go do "stupid" things while you are new, you will regret later on for not doing them.
As example:
When you are less then 900.000 skillpoints, you don't have to update your clone (which costs ISK). When you dock at a station where you don't have any ships, you get a free newbship.
So as above poster said, when you are new...go out, look at different places, be brave adn jump into null-sec. The worst thing that can happen...you wake up in a new free clone and with a new free newb frigate. Nothing lost but you do gain some experience in how EVE works. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:02:00 -
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Confirming that you should do stupid things in rookie ships. Shoot someone in highsec (make sure you have nothing in your cargo and no modules you want to keep fitted, and don't undock in the next 15 minutes in any ship you want to keep). Fly into low and null. Etc. Also, visit a trade hub and ask yourself 'How does THIS scam work?' every time someone talks in local.
As for PVE - there's a limited amount of PVE content, and you will get sick of it. Personally I run it only as a means to an ends (mostly to increase my security status which I 'spend' like a currency to cause mayhem).
EVE really is about player interactions. Sometimes that's spaceship combat, sometimes it's market undercutting, sometimes it's corporate infiltration and massive thefts, sometimes it's stealing all the loot from someone else's mission and trying to trashtalk them into shooting you, and sometimes it's competing with other explorers to be the first to hack into a ghost site. Single-player missioning will not give you much of a feel for the game. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Centis Adjani
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:52:00 -
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Ah, and I just forgot this: Beginners Guide to EvE Online
Explains a lot about the Races, Jump Clones, Skills, and so on... |
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Pedro Zamotto
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:45:00 -
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Thank you all very much! After reading this thread and the other one where someone was looking for a Sensei, I applied to Eve University. I'll see how it goes from here. Thank you again :) |
Fal Shepard
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.06 20:02:00 -
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What is a trial account? A free pass to this brave new universe. In a free trial, this is your opportunity to decide what you want to be. Are you a pirate? A miner? Bounty hunter? Or like me, a Freedom Fighter. Of course game play is only half of it. As far as story goes, it is what you want as no two are the same. Your race will change your starting location so you meet different people. Your occupation will affect your load outs, and your heart guides your decisions. I assure you an epic experience, and a trial account only helps you choose your path.
By the way, if you like guns, join the Minmatar. Our philosophy is: Bigger gun equals bigger fun. o/ I will freight your cargo to and from anywhere between 1.0 and 0.5, below .5 costs a little more however... |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:22:00 -
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Yeah, like other people mentioned, you can easily try your hand at missioning, ratting, mining. However bear in mind that your will have very poor skills for any of the above. It gets seriously better with more skills. A 5% per level improvement may not sound like much, but the way the game is balanced, that 25% when you have level 5 skills is awesome.
Another thing you could try in a cheap ship is PvP. Bear in mind you will probably die every single time - through lack of skills, lack of combat experience, and lack of knowledge on how to fit ships properly (there are so many combinations it's amazing, but only a few combinations are considered close to "optimal"). Even so, you will notice exactly how quick EvE PVP is.
That's one of the things I love about this game - combat is very realistic in that it's usually "won" in the first couple shots or even before the fight starts, and it's (usually) over in almost the blink of an eye. Just remember if you're a newbie going to low sec try not to take the first shot on a stargate or station because the gate guns will just kill you in one shot. You need to understand a lot of different things to understand EvE PvP but it's worth it.
Basics for PvP is a prop (propulsion) mod - either a microwarp drive or an afterburner. And a "point" (a warp scrambler/disruptor) to prevent the other guy from just warping off. Read your ship description and you will notice every ship in the game gets particular bonuses. So fit your ship accordingly (ie don't put rail guns on a laser boat, etc). Bear in mind that most PvP fits also use modules that amplify damage.
Most importantly welcome to EvE and have fun!
EDIT: Oh and if you're going to PvP always make sure your clone is up to date. You can do this by clicking on the "red cross" medical facility in any station that is equipped with one. |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2014.01.07 10:49:00 -
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Highest level PVE content will also likely include PvP, which is nice isn't it? :)
During your trial, do whatever takes your fancy on a day to day / hour to hour basis. If you decide to stay there will be plenty of time for focusing skills and grinding standings etc. BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
erg cz
Sliperer
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:31:00 -
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Well, if you use buddy link to start another trial account, you can get up to 10 mio ISK without any obligations. So you will have enough money to get yourself fitted cruiser, when you will be ready for this. Dotlan map of eve have a good list of all agents, that belongs to some NPC corporation. As soon, as you will get high enough standing for this corporation, you can do more interesting security missions. Some of them will show you nice buildings, you hardly find anywhere else in EVE. Like Cafedrals etc... Just do not start as caldary again - they are dark side. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
160
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:01:00 -
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You mentioned being the type of person that likes difficult pve missions in games. In that case I strongly recommend looking into either exploration. Eve pve is fairly limited, and grinding the same level 4 mission for isk gets very boring. Incursions (the high end fleet pve) have been reduced to a science, so we're left with level 5 missions, the epic arcs, and exploration.
Heres a basic breakdown of pve progression in eve: 1. As other people have said, the SOE epic arc is a good starting point. 2. Level 1/2 missions, or high sec exploration combat sites (1,2 or 3/10). 2a. The level 3 pirate arcs are a really fun stopping point once you have solid core skills because they are done in frigates or destroyers and are a little more dependent on pilot skill (rather than character skill) than other pve in eve. 3. Level 3 missions, 4/10 and 5/10 combat sites, and C1 or C2 wormholes. 4. From there you can move into level 4 missions, 6/10-9/10 combat sites, C3 wormholes, or incursions. These are the really good money makers. 4a. The level 4 epic arcs are another challenge that is available at this point, and I've heard can be quite grueling. 5. Once you're very confident of your skills, you can look at level 5 missions, 10/10 combat sites, and higher level wormhole sites. This stuff is more for the challenge than the reward if done solo. In a fleet, C5 and C6 wormholes are some of the best money makers in the game.
In reality you won't get past step 2 in your trial. You can however figure out a little of what types of ships you like to fly, and what type of pve you might enjoy. Keep in mind that you can be agressed at any point in eve, even in high security space.
Welcome to immortality! New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3066
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:11:00 -
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One thing a lot of rookies miss is that EVE is a sandbox, meaning you are parachuted into the middle of a sandbox with some basic tools (like a pail and a shovel), and the rest is up to you.
This can be incredibly boring for people that don't know how to generate their own content!
As a rookie, it is really a good idea to get involved with people that know how to generate content, or where to find it.
Solution: join a corp with established players (not a corp of rookies like yourself).
EVE University is a great teaching corp. There are other corps that accept new players too: Brave Newbies, Red Federation & Blue Republic (Red vs. Blue or "RvB") though they not teaching corps, etc. Do some research (forum search + google search).
Wherever you land, realize that you don't have to stay there if you are not having fun. Remember, everything in EVE that happens to you, good or bad, is your own doing! |
Pedro Zamotto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.08 09:41:00 -
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Are the Brave Newbies still active? The latest news on their site is date July 10th, 2013 |
Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:10:00 -
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Pedro Zamotto wrote:Are the Brave Newbies still active? The latest news on their site is date July 10th, 2013
Yes they are. I imagine getting rid of them would be like trying to kill a room full of cockroaches... www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Like to answer questions? Join my public channel in game:-áHouse Forelli |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1685
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:25:00 -
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I would recommend an in-game application to Brave Newbies, they don't have the risk aversion that EVE Uni has. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3068
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:37:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Pedro Zamotto wrote:Are the Brave Newbies still active? The latest news on their site is date July 10th, 2013 Yes they are. I imagine getting rid of them would be like trying to kill a room full of cockroaches... Brave Collective is the second largest alliance in EVE
Brave Newbies Inc., the largest corp in Brave Collective, has over 6000 members
Ya, they are still around
They've already been quite busy this year. |
dilly nay
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:19:00 -
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While doing your trial I suggest you complete all 5 of the beginner agent missions and read every tutorial window which pops up during the process. Practicing and applying what you read. The beginning agents + tutorial will teach you how to make stuff, mine, explore, pve, distribute, reprocess material as well as how to use the interface relatively well enough to solo. That is... IF you pay attention.
Afterwords you should establish a goal which will be your focus for the first month~(subscribing). |
ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:39:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Pedro Zamotto wrote:Are the Brave Newbies still active? The latest news on their site is date July 10th, 2013 Yes they are. I imagine getting rid of them would be like trying to kill a room full of cockroaches... cockroach doesn't fit with BNI, but yes this is the best description to the state of BNI i have ever seen......
cockroaches spread out and swarm everywhere...... killing 1 will get you 10 more coming, for free RIP Iron Lady |
Pedro Zamotto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:37:00 -
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dilly nay wrote:While doing your trial I suggest you complete all 5 of the beginner agent missions and read every tutorial window which pops up during the process. Practicing and applying what you read. The beginning agents + tutorial will teach you how to make stuff, mine, explore, pve, distribute, reprocess material as well as how to use the interface relatively well enough to solo. That is... IF you pay attention.
checked! it was useful indeed, those five career agents got me some ISK, some ships and skill books. since yesterday night I also subscribed, and the nice people at CCP added the remaining days of my trial account to the game-time i purchased. i am happy :D
dilly nay wrote:Afterwords you should establish a goal which will be your focus for the first month~(subscribing).
yeah.. well.. yeah.. that is my problem now. i am so free to do whatever i please in this game, that i just log in and i stare at my ships contemplating all the possibilities i have i wish i would know what to do.. :)
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I would recommend an in-game application to Brave Newbies, they don't have the risk aversion that EVE Uni has.
yeap! this seems to be my next step. thank you |
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