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Yen Oshii
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Posted - 2006.03.17 23:33:00 -
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Why are 1200mm arties not good?
Heard that there bad not told why tho.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.17 23:35:00 -
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they have crap alpha strike, crap rate of fire and crap damage per second.
put simply, they are the worst of the long-range battleship guns
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.03.18 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 18/03/2006 00:02:43 They have very few niche roles and none really revolve around PvP. Tempest with a Shield tank and 1200mm IIs isn't a bad ship, because technically a 1200 mm II is basically a Tech 1 1400.
But there are better options, such as going for a gank 1400 II Tempest with no tank or a D.650 II armor tanking Tempest.
But... are you going to learn specialized artillery for a tech 1 1400? So basically you learn arty specialization for 1 gun. Same is with the Tachs. Hybrids on other hand are VERY useful for the skill investment. Missiles don't follow the same skill ideologies so its easier to just go Missile route over arty route unless you want a sniper pest.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.18 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul they have crap alpha strike, crap rate of fire and crap damage per second.
put simply, they are the worst of the long-range battleship guns
gimme my arty whine thread pretty plz
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.03.18 00:10:00 -
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They can load more ammo!
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- Forsch
Defender of the empire
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Rohann
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Posted - 2006.03.18 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul they have crap alpha strike, crap rate of fire and crap damage per second.
put simply, they are the worst of the long-range battleship guns
QFT
I recently bought a set of 1200mm t2 and tried them out. I figured they might do ok. I was wrong very wrong. I cannot seem to hit cruisers with them for some reason however I have no problems with 1400mm.
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Andril
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Posted - 2006.03.18 01:49:00 -
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Okay assuming maxed skills, on a tempest with no other mods, and assuming all shots hit for dps calculations.
Range is base range, not taking ammo into account.
1200 II's
ROF: 8.07 DMG Mod: 9.48 Tracking: 0.0140625 Optimal: 48.75 Falloff: 43.75 Effective Range: 92.5 DPS with EMP ammo: 42.32 Max possible wreaking hit with emp: 1,024.65
1400 II's
ROF: 9.968 DMG Mod: 13.638 Tracking: 0.01125 Optimal: 60 Falloff: 43.75 Effective range: 103.75 DPS with EMP ammo: 49.25 Max possible wreaking hit with emp: 1,472.93
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Sarmaul they have crap alpha strike, crap rate of fire and crap damage per second.
put simply, they are the worst of the long-range battleship guns
gimme my arty whine thread pretty plz
for the love of god wait!! I do have a life you know
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Sarmaul they have crap alpha strike, crap rate of fire and crap damage per second.
put simply, they are the worst of the long-range battleship guns
gimme my arty whine thread pretty plz
for the love of god wait!! I do have a life you know
lies
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Sarmaul they have crap alpha strike, crap rate of fire and crap damage per second.
put simply, they are the worst of the long-range battleship guns
gimme my arty whine thread pretty plz
for the love of god wait!! I do have a life you know
lies
well ok, I sometimes have to go to work . I'm waiting until the full details of the tach boost are released before I put the finishing touches to it. rest assured 1200mms get slagged off.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:34:00 -
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No offense, but for someone who doesn't play much eve due to his 'busy life', you sure ***** alot about everything that is minmatar forever on the forum...
Originally by: Ithildin Q: Will the Gallente ship have lots of missiles? I think it's time. A: Die. You are not |
Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK No offense, but for someone who doesn't play much eve due to his 'busy life', you sure ***** alot about everything that is minmatar forever on the forum...
how is forum posting connected to RL and *****ing about minmatar? And why should he waste his gaming time with forum whoring?
omg, that makes no sense dude, and is nowwhere appreciate for this forum
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 18/03/2006 18:41:24
Originally by: KilROCK No offense, but for someone who doesn't play much eve due to his 'busy life', you sure ***** alot about everything that is minmatar forever on the forum...
my "busy life" involves sitting at a computer programming, rushing to finish my portfolio to get a job writing AI for computer games. during very long program compiles (5-10 minutes of not being able to work) there generally isn't much else to do than browse the internet, play solitare of ***** forums. I have notepad open at the bottom of the screen where I construct the big whinge posts and then post it at the end of the day. the AC was probably only an hours work tops, but took the best part of a day to do as it wasn't solid.
finally, I still login 2-3 times a week for a couple of hours and run missions to get the wallet up. I'm just in a nubcorp because I don't have the time to properly devote to fighting/defending space.
k?
edit: oh, and for well over half the week I'm at work from 8-5.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: KilROCK No offense, but for someone who doesn't play much eve due to his 'busy life', you sure ***** alot about everything that is minmatar forever on the forum...
how is forum posting connected to RL and *****ing about minmatar? And why should he waste his gaming time with forum whoring?
omg, that makes no sense dude, and is nowwhere appreciate for this forum
You shouldn't talk mr. I trained caldari stuff
Originally by: Ithildin Q: Will the Gallente ship have lots of missiles? I think it's time. A: Die. You are not |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:41:00 -
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Gimme your account go play WOW omg omg omg
Originally by: Ithildin Q: Will the Gallente ship have lots of missiles? I think it's time. A: Die. You are not |
Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK Gimme your account go play WOW omg omg omg
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK Gimme your account go play WOW omg omg omg
you had a bad day, or why you started personal insults and trolling?
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.03.18 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: KilROCK Gimme your account go play WOW omg omg omg
you had a bad day, or why you started personal insults and trolling?
KilROCK got owned ingame, and needs to place his anger somewhere...
"We brake for nobody"
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.18 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: KilROCK Gimme your account go play WOW omg omg omg
you had a bad day, or why you started personal insults and trolling?
KilROCK got owned ingame, and needs to place his anger somewhere...
Yea. Well, I didn't sleep for over 20 hours. And since when do i need a bad day to do that? Seriously.
Originally by: Ithildin Q: Will the Gallente ship have lots of missiles? I think it's time. A: Die. You are not |
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