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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2361
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:17:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:embrel wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:[quote=Lucas Kell] Carebears are a subset of EVE's population contributes little to nothing to the community or the content of the game, and does not deserve the special, protected status that the developers have given them.
well, they give CCP cashflow. as it seems (by reading the bragging on the forums) everyone else is plexing their accounts. and now you might begin to understand why they do have a protected status, coz they're the customers and you're the leeches. Yeah I bet CCP are really kicking themselves for providing a means to maintain a subscription without providing any income for them whatsoever. Or maybe they're smarter than you give them credit for and it's actually you who misunderstands how PLEX works. Irony.
You realise plex subscriptions still produce income for CCP right? People would not buy plex and sell them on the market if there was no demand from them. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1648
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:21:00 -
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Rick II Egnald wrote:I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.
Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9
Is this normal now?
Yes. I'm an old-timer, from 2005. EvE certainly has changed a lot, there's a lot more douchebaggery but then again it's easier than ever to make iskies too. The "douchebags" can be rather entertaining and amusing, it's all good player-driven content creation. But gone are the days when you can just sit in a high sec belt and mine for hours and hours with your only fear being falling asleep and missing a bunch of cycles.
It's up to you how you want to deal with this situation, but deal with it you will have to. Personally I prefer mining in nullsec that way I can swap to a PvP ship and kill them without all these high sec rules and regulations getting in the way. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1019
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:27:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:The only griefers I know sit in starter corps and tell you to play isolated. To mine or run missions. that 1 trillion times! That is the greater offense or attack someone can commit upon a new player. Shoudl be bannable even. Many say this, yet nobody is willing to help and put effort into balancing this and I can't do it alone, because there are too many of them.
Problem is, those are in NPC corps, othwerwise they would be perma deced. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -įthen you are -įsurely not using enough!" |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6116
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:29:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:embrel wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:[quote=Lucas Kell] Carebears are a subset of EVE's population contributes little to nothing to the community or the content of the game, and does not deserve the special, protected status that the developers have given them. well, they give CCP cashflow. as it seems (by reading the bragging on the forums) everyone else is plexing their accounts. and now you might begin to understand why they do have a protected status, coz they're the customers and you're the leeches. Yeah I bet CCP are really kicking themselves for providing a means to maintain a subscription without providing any income for them whatsoever. Or maybe they're smarter than you give them credit for and it's actually you who misunderstands how PLEX works. Irony. You realise plex subscriptions still produce income for CCP right? People would not buy plex and sell them on the market if there was no demand from them. that reminds of of a special contributor to the community ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8130
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:29:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:embrel wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:[quote=Lucas Kell] Carebears are a subset of EVE's population contributes little to nothing to the community or the content of the game, and does not deserve the special, protected status that the developers have given them.
well, they give CCP cashflow. as it seems (by reading the bragging on the forums) everyone else is plexing their accounts. and now you might begin to understand why they do have a protected status, coz they're the customers and you're the leeches. Yeah I bet CCP are really kicking themselves for providing a means to maintain a subscription without providing any income for them whatsoever. Or maybe they're smarter than you give them credit for and it's actually you who misunderstands how PLEX works. Irony. You realise plex subscriptions still produce income for CCP right? People would not buy plex and sell them on the market if there was no demand from them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension My EVE Videos |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6116
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:36:00 -
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This being general discussion, I'm ~sure~ everyone knows how CCP gets their money from monthly subscriptions and the sale of PLEX.
Also isk "faucets" ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:40:00 -
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Am i the only one who when i mine simply sets keep at range on a rock so the bumpers cant know me out of range? |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
286
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:42:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
It is completely within the EULA/TOS. I don't care how wrong you think I am, but I am right. I have had many harassment/griefer petitions filed against me but because I was enforcing the code and not doing it without a purpose they were all unfounded. I would go into it further but that would mean discussing GM stuff on the forums, which is against the EULA/TOS, unlike enforcing the CODE.
See the above referred to GM posts on the topic. The petitions you are talking about will have been miners whining because you bumped them for 5 minutes, then they warped to the other end of the ice field and you followed them, not stalking them for hours across new eden. Which as I've already said about the former, doesn't count. However the later does. Reason or not, you can't continually stalk someone like that just to bump them. Gee, can you please tell me how you know what petitions I'm talking about when I didn't provide links or give out specific details about them? You know what assuming does . . .
I wonder how you know what was in those petitions, considering a petition is private between the petitioner and CCP. You don't get a notification when a petition is filed against you, and GMs aren't going to ask you if you were harassing So-and-so. Furthermore, having a reason to harass someone is moot, since every harasser has a reason in that they're intention is to harass the person. Also, we all know that the reason you harass people in game isn't the "code," but rather because in real life you're a cuckold. Wearing horns for so long has made you think you're a devil. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1084
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:48:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:You realise it doesn't have to be affecting my real life for me to think someone is a moron right? The majority of the new order guys I've spoken to are not very bright. That is no surprise, since it's effectively a cult and cults aren't really known for attracting the brightest sparks.
So, the answer to "Do you have some kind of RL/game disconnect issue" is a resounding "YES!".
Seriously man, judgement of intelligence in a video game, cult status...wowzers. It's a game. For real. We don't like, worship James 315.
Just in case you missed the whole creation of The New Order....When James first started up with the whole serious bumping thing, he sent in a petition asking about it's legality under EULA. He was told that in order to be a valid gameplay mechanic, there had to be a reason for doing it. Intro, The New Order.
It's fun to know that our antics have people actually thinking we are a real cult in the real world though. If you really think it's true, see a psychologist. You have some reality/fantasy issues that need worked on. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15469
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:49:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:Am i the only one who when i mine simply sets keep at range on a rock so the bumpers cant know me out of range? Those are love bumps, wait till they hit you with a 100MN Stabber Fleet Issue (FSI). 50-60Km, on an exhumer, per bump if they get a good hit in.
An orbiting afterburner skiff is quite difficult to bump, needs a really good pilot or sheer luck to get a good hit. Getting ganked in one is also unlikely, it's generally too much effort and cost to carry it off. |
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
71
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:51:00 -
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What I also don't get is why a player calls others griefers, although it's himself talking **** and insulting them for playing the game in ways that go beyond the typical, moronic lemming style of playing.
Of course there are always people who will enjoy picking on weak ones and of course some of them have questionable characters... but from how people talk about them, they are exactly on the same page and in no way better. New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
1994
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:51:00 -
[72] - Quote
Player created corps: Check
Player created Banks: Check
Player created organised crime: Check
Player created nations: Check
Player created Universities: Check
Player created cults/religion: ZOMGNOWAIWHATAREYOUANOOBLOLDDUUHH!!!!1111!
Hmm
I sense a gap in the market *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --įPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1084
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Player created corps: Check
Player created Banks: Check
Player created organised crime: Check
Player created nations: Check
Player created Universities: Check
Player created cults/religion: ZOMGNOWAIWHATAREYOUANOOBLOLDDUUHH!!!!1111!
Hmm
I sense a gap in the market
Player Created Cult Deprogrammers?
Maybe Player Created Anonymous, to sit outside station docks and protest us.
Hell, maybe we can have a Protestant Code Reformation. Ganking through faith alone. The reformer can virtually nail his 95 Bumping Theses to the station door. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
71
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:01:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:The only griefers I know sit in starter corps and tell you to play isolated. To mine or run missions. that 1 trillion times! That is the greater offense or attack someone can commit upon a new player. Shoudl be bannable even. Many say this, yet nobody is willing to help and put effort into balancing this and I can't do it alone, because there are too many of them. Problem is, those are in NPC corps, othwerwise they would be perma deced. And this is also something I get as response a lot, meaning that ...
YOU DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE!
The only way to balance it is having alts in starter corps balancing out all the carebearing vets who ruin the game for the new players! Why are people so completely blind to this? It's beyond me!
They are influencing new players right from the start. It's not far from forming and teaching the personalities of kids.
Does anybody actually understand the issue or is all you can do complain? I am complaining too, but I have tried doing something! All I get as responses when I'm asking for help are the same bullshit, predictable responses, instead of
"Yeah you're right! Instead of complaining, I'll join you in a starter corp and we'll start changing the future of the game together!" New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
71
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:09:00 -
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I have to correct myself.
The issue aren't carebears in starter corps, the issue are you people who complain about them.
There is no good, unless it is being done.
The reason for the situation we have is because you don't do it. You just whine. Disgusting! New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
467
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:24:00 -
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Rick II Egnald wrote:I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.
Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9
Is this normal now?
Right click on asteroid you are not mining then left click "approach" Continue to mine Ignore New Order rhetoric Enjoy problem solved
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2582
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:32:00 -
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Bumping/permit extortion is hard to categorize. It's sort of like PvP, but it's not really combat. It's sort of like scamming, but it's not really profitable like scamming. And it's sort of like giving the dorky kid at school a wedgie, but not exactly the same as that either. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
718
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:36:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:I have to correct myself.
The issue aren't carebears in starter corps, the issue are you people who complain about them.
There is no good, unless it is being done.
The reason for the situation we have is because you don't do it. You just whine. Disgusting!
Too much work. I actually tried that once. I applaud your efforts but I have better things to do with my limited logged-in time than argue with idiots in starter corp chat. Voices of reason tend to get shouted down anyway, and most of the newbs think that the loudest voices are probably right. Until we can wardec them or new players somehow get booted out after a period of time, there isn't a realistic solution to this problem. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
186
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:40:00 -
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Rick II Egnald wrote:I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.
Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9
Is this normal now?
Go to null. Sissies don't go there, they'd get shot. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
73
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:44:00 -
[80] - Quote
Haedonism Bot wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:I have to correct myself.
The issue aren't carebears in starter corps, the issue are you people who complain about them.
There is no good, unless it is being done.
The reason for the situation we have is because you don't do it. You just whine. Disgusting! Too much work. I actually tried that once. I applaud your efforts but I have better things to do with my limited logged-in time than argue with idiots in starter corp chat. Voices of reason tend to get shouted down anyway, and most of the newbs think that the loudest voices are probably right. Until we can wardec them or new players somehow get booted out after a period of time, there isn't a realistic solution to this problem. Yes. So you accept your defeat. That they are better than you. That they actually beat you on the game in the long run, because they form the game there where it counts.
You should be ashamed of yourself. You are the reason the things you complain about exist in the first place.
You are disgusting piece of ****. Congratulations. New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:08:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:embrel wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote: Carebears are a subset of EVE's population contributes little to nothing to the community or the content of the game, and does not deserve the special, protected status that the developers have given them.
well, they give CCP cashflow. as it seems (by reading the bragging on the forums) everyone else is plexing their accounts. and now you might begin to understand why they do have a protected status, coz they're the customers and you're the leeches. Yeah I bet CCP are really kicking themselves for providing a means to maintain a subscription without providing any income for them whatsoever. Or maybe they're smarter than you give them credit for and it's actually you who misunderstands how PLEX works. Irony. You realise plex subscriptions still produce income for CCP right? People would not buy plex and sell them on the market if there was no demand from them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension lol, Indeed I may need to read that :D. In my defense I've been reading and responding on my phone, though there can be no excuse for it. I acknowledge I have made a severe error, and I humbly request forgiveness for my transgression. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:23:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:You realise it doesn't have to be affecting my real life for me to think someone is a moron right? The majority of the new order guys I've spoken to are not very bright. That is no surprise, since it's effectively a cult and cults aren't really known for attracting the brightest sparks. So, the answer to "Do you have some kind of RL/game disconnect issue" is a resounding "YES!". Seriously man, judgement of intelligence in a video game, cult status...wowzers. It's a game. For real. We don't like, worship James 315. Just in case you missed the whole creation of The New Order....When James first started up with the whole serious bumping thing, he sent in a petition asking about it's legality under EULA. He was told that in order to be a valid gameplay mechanic, there had to be a reason for doing it. Intro, The New Order. It's fun to know that our antics have people actually thinking we are a real cult in the real world though. If you really think it's true, see a psychologist. You have some reality/fantasy issues that need worked on. Clearly not. When someone comes on a sperg rages at me about me calling their pretend gang stupid, it doesn't need me to conflict my real life and a game to call them a moron. Most of the new order guys I've spoken to and seen speaking are clearly on the lower end of the intellectual spectrum. And an in-game cult is and in-game cult. It still attracts the same type of people, and while your may be able to separate your two personas, it's clear for the amounts of rage spewed by some new order members that some of the members don't.
I do find it amusing though how when you guys spout off in the forum about all sorts of nonsense, you are all just "RPing", yet I respond to one foaming-at-the-mouth neckbeard and you jump into tell me that I'm the one that needs to separate my real life and my game. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:30:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Player created corps: Check
Player created Banks: Check
Player created organised crime: Check
Player created nations: Check
Player created Universities: Check
Player created cults/religion: ZOMGNOWAIWHATAREYOUANOOBLOLDDUUHH!!!!1111!
Hmm
I sense a gap in the market There no problem with a player created cult or religion (though the fact that it's named after a WW2 political agenda involving the annihilation of the jews to be distasteful, especially considering the similarities in their stated goals). It's all of the repetitive propaganda that goes with it. Every time anyone posts anything about mining you can expect to see at least one new order clown trying to go on and on about the code. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6122
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:31:00 -
[84] - Quote
Are you suggesting they round up the miners and make them stay in the systems close to market hubs or something ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:36:00 -
[85] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:The only griefers I know sit in starter corps and tell you to play isolated. To mine or run missions. that 1 trillion times! That is the greater offense or attack someone can commit upon a new player. Shoudl be bannable even. Many say this, yet nobody is willing to help and put effort into balancing this and I can't do it alone, because there are too many of them. Problem is, those are in NPC corps, othwerwise they would be perma deced. And this is also something I get as response a lot, meaning that ... YOU DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE! The only way to balance it is having alts in starter corps balancing out all the carebearing vets who ruin the game for the new players! Why are people so completely blind to this? It's beyond me! They are influencing new players right from the start. It's not far from forming and teaching the personalities of kids. Does anybody actually understand the issue or is all you can do complain? I am complaining too, but I have tried doing something! All I get as responses when I'm asking for help are the same bullshit, predictable responses, instead of "Yeah you're right! Instead of complaining, I'll join you in a starter corp and we'll start changing the future of the game together!" Actually, I think the reason so many people remain in NPC corps is that it's impossible to protect yourself joining a player owned one. I've run a few player corps in the past between myself and friends, but I'd never publicly recruit as I can't be bothered of going through all of the hassle of having some random be allowed to shoot everyone in the corp free of charge. There's no method of punishing someone for jamming an alt in a corp and blowing people up.
I think if they addressed that issue, even just by a flag on a corp level allowing and disallowing in-corp PVP by concord, it would go a long way to encouraging people to both join corps and recruit from them. Without that though, it's simply safer to either be in a one man corp (if you want to remove tax) or stay in an NPC one. Wars would still be an issue but those are less of an issue as they cost to initiate.
Honestly, how can you expect people to move on if null sec players scam them, low sec players shoot them, and high sec players grief them? If I were brand new to this game these days, I'd probably not bother sticking around long enough to realise there's other things to do. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
73
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:38:00 -
[86] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Most of the new order guys I've spoken to and seen speaking are clearly on the lower end of the intellectual spectrum. And an in-game cult is and in-game cult. It still attracts the same type of people, and while your may be able to separate your two personas, it's clear for the amounts of rage spewed by some new order members that some of the members don't.
I do find it amusing though how when you guys spout off in the forum about all sorts of nonsense, you are all just "RPing", yet I respond to one foaming-at-the-mouth neckbeard and you jump into tell me that I'm the one that needs to separate my real life and my game. Why exactly did you create a thread about this?
I mean ... it's rather obvious as why it is as it is. If you give a big group of people a way to grab the lowest hanging fruit without actual consequences, then a percentage of this big group of people will inevitably take it. A part of this smaller group of people will, OF COURSE, be of lower intellect. They love picking on easy targets, most likely because they are easy targets themselves, one way or the other.
Putting them all into the same pot is nonsense, though! That makes no sense! People have different reasons for what they do! The one thing I have observed myself though, is that many have turned completely blind to anything that's being said to them. They just read what they want to read, instead of reading what's written. There is NO point in talking to these people, so why do you actually make such an issue about it?
What exactly is the point of this discussion? You're talking about the sky being blue and the grass being green! New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:41:00 -
[87] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Are you suggesting they round up the miners and make them stay in the systems close to market hubs or something lol no, they cleanse the population of the miners they don't like. But yeah, read some of the stuff they write and you'll soon start to see the correlations. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6122
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:42:00 -
[88] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Are you suggesting they round up the miners and make them stay in the systems close to market hubs or something lol no, they cleanse the population of the miners they don't like. But yeah, read some of the stuff they write and you'll soon start to see the correlations. But the miners can just go elsewhere. It isn't as though they comb the edges of highsec for miners, there's tons nearby the trade hubs where they buy the catalysts (well the ones that gank anyway) ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18754
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:46:00 -
[89] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Honestly, how can you expect people to move on if null sec players scam them, low sec players shoot them, and high sec players grief extort them? By doing what the scammers, gankers, and extortionists do: find safety in numbers.
GĒ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GėķvGėķ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GĒ„
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:49:00 -
[90] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Most of the new order guys I've spoken to and seen speaking are clearly on the lower end of the intellectual spectrum. And an in-game cult is and in-game cult. It still attracts the same type of people, and while your may be able to separate your two personas, it's clear for the amounts of rage spewed by some new order members that some of the members don't.
I do find it amusing though how when you guys spout off in the forum about all sorts of nonsense, you are all just "RPing", yet I respond to one foaming-at-the-mouth neckbeard and you jump into tell me that I'm the one that needs to separate my real life and my game. Why exactly did you create a thread about this? I mean ... it's rather obvious as why it is as it is. If you give a big group of people a way to grab the lowest hanging fruit without actual consequences, then a percentage of this big group of people will inevitably take it. A part of this smaller group of people will, OF COURSE, be of lower intellect. They love picking on easy targets, most likely because they are easy targets themselves, one way or the other. Putting them all into the same pot is nonsense, though! That makes no sense! People have different reasons for what they do! The one thing I have observed myself though, is that many have turned completely blind to anything that's being said to them. They just read what they want to read, instead of reading what's written. There is NO point in talking to these people, so why do you actually make such an issue about it? What exactly is the point of this discussion? You're talking about the sky being blue and the grass being green! I didn't create this thread...
I stated that the bumpers and gankers exist, that you shouldn't pay the new order guys as it encourages them and that if a players feels like what is happening to them is beyond gameplay and they feel genuinely harassed, to raise a support ticket. CCP are more than capable of deciding if it is or not and all that posting in GD will get you is trolled.
I stand behind that, and I'm more than capable of sustaining all of the trolling, attacks and defamation that the new order guys can throw at me. And why am I talking about it? Sheer boredom. I'm not home yet. :D The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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