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Nona Clu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:29:00 -
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Quote:Why do I have to pay for transferring my character?
As your character is your identity in EVE the transfer of such an identity needs to be limited. Identity hopping and alternate character abuse are immersion breakers in any virtual world; this is why CCP has chosen to limit this as much as possible. It is clear that some players wish to donate their characters to their friends so we want to keep this possibility open. The surest way to prevent abuse of this feature is to have credit card records backing the transfer. All abuse/hacking/exploitation of this feature will be treated as credit card fraud.
Yet you allow us to transfer using PLEX? and not just one but two!
I have 3 accounts, all under the same email address and on the same credit card for monthly subscription. yet still you have to charge me? You wont allow us to log into multiple characters on the same account so transferring is the only option when it comes to this situation.
My characters over the years have grown into new roles and I now need to operate 2 characters that are on the same account. I have already deleted a character to transfer and after taking into account the shuffle i want to do its going to cost me $60 or close to 6 months in subscription fees.
Surely there can be a lesser fee for transferring characters on the same identity.
Or here is a way out idea. Make it so each account can have unlimited (10 would be nice) characters and you pay subscription on how many characters you want to use at once. 3 plex for the month allows you to train 3 and login 3 concurrent sessions. ect ect.
Would love to hear some thoughts on this. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
2089
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:39:00 -
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Nona Clu wrote:
Would love to hear some thoughts on this.
Trust me, you wouldn't. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2886
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:40:00 -
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Didn't even finish reading what you wrote. The system is fine. Edit: I went back and read the rest. Opinion unchanged. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3761
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:41:00 -
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My man boobs are all yours CCP. Milk away. |
Meat Patty
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:42:00 -
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Tumble Weed roll by stage Left to Right. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
101
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:44:00 -
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My thought is that the thoughts of anybody who isn't CCP are pretty irrelevant, including yours and mine.
Why do you think the thoughts of those who aren't CCP matter somehow? New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4967
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:46:00 -
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If shuffling characters around was free, it would be abused 10 ways to Sunday.
Plan ahead better, or pay for the service. It's not that bad.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
241
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:50:00 -
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CCP why you want to make money? Iceland is commie you shuld be commie and give me things k? ^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7 |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2886
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:54:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:My thought is that the thoughts of anybody who isn't CCP are pretty irrelevant, including yours and mine.
Why do you think the thoughts of those who aren't CCP matter somehow?
First, a disclaimer: By calling this post terrible I am not in any way supporting the OP's stupid idea. Now that's out of the way...
This post is terrible. Of course what we think is relevant. Because if we don't think Eve is worth playing, they don't get paid. Simple as that. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9748
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:02:00 -
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OP your udder is full but the milk is sour. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
10780
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:03:00 -
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CCP shut up and take my money.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1359
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:07:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Didn't even finish reading what you wrote. The system is fine. Edit: I went back and read the rest. Opinion unchanged.
Samesies. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
101
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:10:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:My thought is that the thoughts of anybody who isn't CCP are pretty irrelevant, including yours and mine.
Why do you think the thoughts of those who aren't CCP matter somehow? First, a disclaimer: By calling this post terrible I am not in any way supporting the OP's stupid idea. Now that's out of the way... This post is terrible. Of course what we think is relevant. Because if we don't think Eve is worth playing, they don't get paid. Simple as that. You're cute with being so daft. <3 :)
You think you respond to what I said and manage to switch context in the same sentence! :D Awwwwww I almost want to keep you as a cleaning slave! :) New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Arduemont
The State of War.
2887
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:24:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote: You think you respond to what I said and manage to switch context in the same sentence!
Your about to start a debate with someone that wont stop posting until you admit you were wrong (or in the very unlikely situation that you manage to prove me wrong) or bashfully stop posting in the hopes I will leave you alone.
You said that what 'people who aren't CCP' think is irrelevant, which is clearly wrong. Regardless of context. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
102
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:41:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote: You think you respond to what I said and manage to switch context in the same sentence!
Your about to start a debate with someone that wont stop posting until you admit you were wrong (or in the very unlikely situation that you manage to prove me wrong) or bashfully stop posting in the hopes I will leave you alone. You said that what 'people who aren't CCP' think is irrelevant, which is clearly wrong. Regardless of context. Unlike you, I am aware of the feedback loop that traps the weak minded and I am not mindless enough to get caught in it. If you consider it valid to ignore context, then that's your issue and not mine. There's no need discussing this or anyhing related.
Have fun helping your weak, zombielike ego to feel better. <3 :) New player feeling neglected? You're important from day 1!!! Join the Epic Boo Bees! (female chars only, RP!)
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1168
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:06:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:If shuffling characters around was free, it would be abused 10 ways to Sunday.
Plan ahead better, or pay for the service. It's not that bad.
Pretty much this. Its a luxury service that most people never need, outside maybe the character bazaar. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Mildew Wolf
129
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:15:00 -
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Nona Clu wrote:Quote:Why do I have to pay for transferring my character?
As your character is your identity in EVE the transfer of such an identity needs to be limited. Identity hopping and alternate character abuse are immersion breakers in any virtual world; this is why CCP has chosen to limit this as much as possible. It is clear that some players wish to donate their characters to their friends so we want to keep this possibility open. The surest way to prevent abuse of this feature is to have credit card records backing the transfer. All abuse/hacking/exploitation of this feature will be treated as credit card fraud. Yet you allow us to transfer using PLEX? and not just one but two! I have 3 accounts, all under the same email address and on the same credit card for monthly subscription. yet still you have to charge me? You wont allow us to log into multiple characters on the same account so transferring is the only option when it comes to this situation. My characters over the years have grown into new roles and I now need to operate 2 characters that are on the same account. I have already deleted a character to transfer and after taking into account the shuffle i want to do its going to cost me $60 or close to 6 months in subscription fees. Surely there can be a lesser fee for transferring characters on the same identity. Or here is a way out idea. Make it so each account can have unlimited (10 would be nice) characters and you pay subscription on how many characters you want to use at once. 3 plex for the month allows you to train 3 and login 3 concurrent sessions. ect ect. Would love to hear some thoughts on this.
it's "etc" not "ect" |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8966
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:26:00 -
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I spend entirely too much time on the internet. I saw this thread title and came running.
Leaving disappointed...and still a little aroused. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
453
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:36:00 -
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Nona Clu wrote:Quote:Why do I have to pay for transferring my character?
As your character is your identity in EVE the transfer of such an identity needs to be limited. Identity hopping and alternate character abuse are immersion breakers in any virtual world; this is why CCP has chosen to limit this as much as possible. It is clear that some players wish to donate their characters to their friends so we want to keep this possibility open. The surest way to prevent abuse of this feature is to have credit card records backing the transfer. All abuse/hacking/exploitation of this feature will be treated as credit card fraud. Yet you allow us to transfer using PLEX? and not just one but two! I have 3 accounts, all under the same email address and on the same credit card for monthly subscription. yet still you have to charge me? You wont allow us to log into multiple characters on the same account so transferring is the only option when it comes to this situation. My characters over the years have grown into new roles and I now need to operate 2 characters that are on the same account. I have already deleted a character to transfer and after taking into account the shuffle i want to do its going to cost me $60 or close to 6 months in subscription fees. Surely there can be a lesser fee for transferring characters on the same identity. Or here is a way out idea. Make it so each account can have unlimited (10 would be nice) characters and you pay subscription on how many characters you want to use at once. 3 plex for the month allows you to train 3 and login 3 concurrent sessions. ect ect. Would love to hear some thoughts on this.
This would seem, at least on the surface, to be a reasonable request. I wonder why CCP has NEVER done it this way. Obviously, there is a demand. I am willing to bet that there is a really good reason that this is not implemented and live.
One should not seek to know the mind of CCP... to do so is blasphemy.
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15541
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:39:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:One should not seek to know the mind of CCP... to do so is blasphemy.
It requires living on a volcano, the ingestion of large amounts of alcohol, and the consumption of half rotted foodstuffs, to get anywhere close to being in the position of knowing the mind of CCP |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
87579
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:39:00 -
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Batelle wrote:War Kitten wrote:If shuffling characters around was free, it would be abused 10 ways to Sunday.
Plan ahead better, or pay for the service. It's not that bad. Pretty much this. Its a luxury service that most people never need, outside maybe the character bazaar.
Seriously. In over 4 years, I've only done transfers twice. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
120
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:43:00 -
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[quote=Nona Clu]Quote:
Why are you milking me CCP?
Because you are a cow |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
650
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:56:00 -
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Bad idea. Read This. Try again. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
423
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:58:00 -
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[quote=Nona Clu]Quote: Or here is a way out idea. Make it so each account can have unlimited (10 would be nice) characters and you pay subscription on how many characters you want to use at once. 3 plex for the month allows you to train 3 and login 3 concurrent sessions. ect ect.
Would love to hear some thoughts on this.
I like this idea. Any colour you like. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4249
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:02:00 -
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Victor Dathar wrote:CCP why you want to make money? Iceland is commie you shuld be commie and give me things k?
Yea, how dare a company do things to make money. Baastids! |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2890
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Posted - 2014.01.08 17:02:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Arduemont wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote: You think you respond to what I said and manage to switch context in the same sentence!
Your about to start a debate with someone that wont stop posting until you admit you were wrong (or in the very unlikely situation that you manage to prove me wrong) or bashfully stop posting in the hopes I will leave you alone. You said that what 'people who aren't CCP' think is irrelevant, which is clearly wrong. Regardless of context. Unlike you, I am aware of the feedback loop that traps the weak minded and I am not mindless enough to get caught in it. If you consider it valid to ignore context, then that's your issue and not mine. There's no need discussing this or anyhing related. Have fun helping your weak, zombielike ego to feel better. <3 :)
I'm going to ignore the ad hominems and bullshit in that post and go straight back to the issue. The context is irrelevant, it's still wrong. Doesn't matter that you do not agree with the OP, as it happens I don't agree with them either, but that doesn't mean that CCP's customers opinions are irrelevant. Do you think they thought that during Incarnageddon? Do you think they thought that when they created the CSM?
You can throw insults around all you like. You were wrong, just admit it. I admit when I am wrong, and if you are 'aware of the feedback loop that traps the weak minded' then you would admit you were wrong too.
<-- Smiley faces make it better. /sarcasm "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
37
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:54:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:My man boobs are all yours CCP. Milk away.
Moooooooooo
EvE is working as intended no problems over here I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1215
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:16:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:My thought is that the thoughts of anybody who isn't CCP are pretty irrelevant, including yours and mine.
Why do you think the thoughts of those who aren't CCP matter somehow?
Other then the fact that the players on these very forums have made cajolled, raged and made logical arguments that lead to CCP reversing decisions in the past; you are 100% correct
Albeit the examples are primarily from forum decisions and small in game changes.
To not be totally off topic. Allowing you to transfer at will, even with the 100% paper trail, is exactly what CCP does not want. Say one of your 3 accounts has a scammer on it and you all of a sudden want to get one of the other non-scammer alts, on that same account, into a corp for a heist. You being allowed to switch that known scammer instantly, wtih abosolutely zero cost, is the exact immersion breaker CCP is talking about. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1549
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:40:00 -
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CCP milks those who are dumb enough to pay...
Oh hai OP! ... |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
813
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:59:00 -
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Reminds me of one of those 'life lesson' stories you get taught as a kid. Ill tell it here for the OPs benefit.
I walked into the Ferrari Dealership the other day.
I asked the guy ' How much for the red car?'
He said 'It is $500K'
I said - 'Wow thats too expensive'
To which he replied - 'No it is not too expensive - You just can not afford it.'
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
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