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Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:05:00 -
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Hello,
I am curios about how the EVE comunity land on the Cpt Phillips movie. EVE is know about having very intelligent people doing all level of pvp activities. Also, we.. love pirates. Just because they are intelligent and beware of all of the game mechanics.
I know that the majority of the EVE community is based in USA, people who hate the somalian pirates and also the somalian people (see black hawk down). I DO NOT wanna take conclusion over what is bad or wrong, I'm just really curios about how people feel about the movie, what's the general feeling about the somalians whom live in USA, etc.
Thank You. |
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
286
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:08:00 -
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You wanna know what I think about the movie?
I think the movie has nothing to do with EvE online. |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
493
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:09:00 -
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Kali Kaline wrote:Hello,
I am curios about how the EVE comunity land on the Cpt Phillips movie. EVE is know about having very intelligent people doing all level of pvp activities. Also, we.. love pirates. Just because they are intelligent and beware of all of the game mechanics.
I know that the majority of the EVE community is based in USA, people who hate the somalian pirates and also the somalian people (see black hawk down). I DO NOT wanna take conclusion over what is bad or wrong, I'm just really curios about how people feel about the movie, what's the general feeling about the somalians whom live in USA, etc.
Thank You.
I don't hate Somalis. Never met one.
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1192
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:10:00 -
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I doubt that anyone who plays this game has romantic notions of real life piracy. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
2173
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:10:00 -
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Kali Kaline wrote:
I know that the majority of the EVE community is based in USA, people who hate the somalian pirates and also the somalian people (see black hawk down)
Wow way to make an EXTREMELY sweeping and judgemental statement.
Im certain that it will win you many friends and your influence will grow as a result.
Also Ridley Scott is not very good. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:12:00 -
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:You wanna know what I think about the movie?
I think the movie has nothing to do with EvE online. In the case I was blurred: is about piracy. Piracy vs civilized world which means taxes, politicians, taxes and ..taxes. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
2177
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:25:00 -
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Kali Kaline wrote:Nedes Betternaem wrote:You wanna know what I think about the movie?
I think the movie has nothing to do with EvE online. In the case I was blurred: is about piracy. Piracy vs civilized world which means taxes, politicians, taxes and ..taxes.
At worst this thread should be in OOPE
At best it should be locked *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Captain Stupid
Citalopram Appreciation Society
76
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:29:00 -
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I saw Black Hawk Down. It didn't make me hate somali's, just Ridley Scott for wasting 2 hours of my life I will never get back. A stupid shouty "Oh look at us we are America f*ck yeah" movie that made no sense.
Also, yes, agree with Ramona, this needs to be moved or locked, what a stupid thread, and I know about Stupid, trust me. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1192
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:39:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: Also Ridley Scott is not very good.
He made Alien. And Gladiator. That's good enough for me. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:43:00 -
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Captain Stupid wrote:I saw Black Hawk Down. It didn't make me hate somali's, just Ridley Scott for wasting 2 hours of my life I will never get back. A stupid shouty "Oh look at us we are America f*ck yeah" movie that made no sense.
Also, yes, agree with Ramona, this needs to be moved or locked, what a stupid thread, and I know about Stupid, trust me. Now, this is what will never happen in: |
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Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
2178
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:44:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: Also Ridley Scott is not very good.
He made Alien. And Bladerunner. That's good enough for me.
FTFU ;)
But he also made
Legend
And Thelma and Lousie
And 1492
And GI Jane
And The A-Team movie
And Kingdom of Heaven
And Prometheus *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:47:00 -
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Kali Kaline wrote:Hello,
I am curios about how the EVE comunity land on the Cpt Phillips movie. EVE is know about having very intelligent people doing all level of pvp activities. Also, we.. love pirates. Just because they are intelligent and beware of all of the game mechanics.
I know that the majority of the EVE community is based in USA, people who hate the somalian pirates and also the somalian people (see black hawk down). I DO NOT wanna take conclusion over what is bad or wrong, I'm just really curios about how people feel about the movie, what's the general feeling about the somalians whom live in USA, etc.
Thank You. I live in the US, and who the **** is Cpt Phillips, and why should I care?
Topic is completely irrelevant to eve and should be moved/locked.
Also, If someone plays eve, they must be very smart, right? Right guys? We're smart, yeah? |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
317
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kali Kaline wrote:
I know that the majority of the EVE community is based in USA, people who hate the somalian pirates and also the somalian people (see black hawk down)
Wow way to make an EXTREMELY sweeping and judgemental statement. Im certain that it will win you many friends and your influence will grow as a result. Also Ridley Scott is not very good.
Unlike Ramona I'm not so upset by 'EXTREMELY sweeping and judgemental statement[s]'.
I have a hunch that your average American couldn't point to Somalia on a map. I know where it is, I know what it's like from second hand sources, I know about the events in Mogadishu. I simply don't care about Somalia. I think that's the strongest feeling you'd find from the average American towards Somalia, too. That is, if Ramona could pardon my 'EXTREMELY sweeping judgemental statement' to say so.
As far as that's concerned, it's a stretch to relate real life piracy to EVE.
fyi It's spelled, 'judgmental.' Don't get your panties in a bunch. |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16442
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:56:00 -
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Never thought about it tbh, other than one is a game aned the other RL.
But I have had my fair share of hate mail, so some do have issues differentiating game play and RL.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
2181
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:56:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote: Unlike Ramona I'm not so upset by 'EXTREMELY sweeping and judgemental statement[s]'.
I have a hunch that your average American couldn't point to Somalia on a map. I know where it is, I know what it's like from second hand sources, I know about the events in Mogadishu. I simply don't care about Somalia. I think that's the strongest feeling you'd find from the average American towards Somalia, too. That is, if Ramona could pardon my 'EXTREMELY sweeping judgemental statement' to say so.
As far as that's concerned, it's a stretch to relate real life piracy to EVE.
fyi It's spelled, 'judgmental.' Don't get your panties in a bunch.
Ow you almost hurt my feeling with that one
You seem quite bothered by the fact other people might have an opinion on ill-informed and quite frankly ridiculously reactionary statements.
But if you don't think saying "All Americans must think this way.." is an extremely sweeping statement, you should probably check the meaning of the phrase out.
That said, you seem to think most Americans are stupid, so I suppose you do understand it, even if you can't actually put it into a recognisable or coherent thought.
And yes, you pointed out my spelling mistake twice. Good for you.
Here's a little gold star for you *pin*
Now you can be a cowboy. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:00:00 -
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This is interesting. I have friends who are Somalis, and frankly they are my only real interaction with the Somali people. From what they tell me, most people in their country are like them, its only the smallest minority are complete asshats and ruin the image for everyone. They also let me know that the rest of the world thinks America is full of John Wayne Douchebaggery, but from what they've seen they cant figure out why. I don't judge an entire culture based off the actions of a few pirates.
But hey, what do I know..right? I should judge everyone by what Hollywood shows me too. Im going to go paint my face and tuck some brush in my hat and wait in the yard for my Russian mailman. WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:04:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This is interesting. I have friends who are Somalis, and frankly they are my only real interaction with the Somali people. From what they tell me, most people in their country are like them, its only the smallest minority are complete asshats and ruin the image for everyone. They also let me know that the rest of the world thinks America is full of John Wayne Douchebaggery, but from what they've seen they cant figure out why. I don't judge an entire culture based off the actions of a few pirates.
But hey, what do I know..right? I should judge everyone by what Hollywood shows me too. Im going to go paint my face and tuck some brush in my hat and wait in the yard for my Russian mailman. WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its the undesired minority that gives the majority a bad name :) |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:05:00 -
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We are idiots, but us Americans do have a bloated, runaway, military budget, so at least we have that going for us. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:07:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This is interesting. I have friends who are Somalis, and frankly they are my only real interaction with the Somali people. From what they tell me, most people in their country are like them, its only the smallest minority are complete asshats and ruin the image for everyone. They also let me know that the rest of the world thinks America is full of John Wayne Douchebaggery, but from what they've seen they cant figure out why. I don't judge an entire culture based off the actions of a few pirates.
But hey, what do I know..right? I should judge everyone by what Hollywood shows me too. Im going to go paint my face and tuck some brush in my hat and wait in the yard for my Russian mailman. WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the best reply. We judge people because they are: black, jew, carebears, goons etc |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
555
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:13:00 -
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Kali Kaline wrote:Hello,
I am curios about how the EVE comunity land on the Cpt Phillips movie. EVE is know about having very intelligent people doing all level of pvp activities. Also, we.. love pirates. Just because they are intelligent and beware of all of the game mechanics.
I know that the majority of the EVE community is based in USA, people who hate the somalian pirates and also the somalian people (see black hawk down). I DO NOT wanna take conclusion over what is bad or wrong, I'm just really curios about how people feel about the movie, what's the general feeling about the somalians whom live in USA, etc.
Thank You.
It is a little known fact that the decline in RL pirates is the cause of global warming and that is why so many eve players like pirates. http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
I think this explains it all. no idea what the film you are talking about is but i the the other one you mentioned is PR for US hegemony so i will assume i haven't missed much. fly safe. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
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Cale Nolen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:18:00 -
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basing Somalia on its pirates, bit like basing eve on GD
I dont know any Somalians all i hear about is a minority that gives me no right to base an opinion on a nation |
Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:22:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote:fyi It's spelled, 'judgmental.' Don't get your panties in a bunch. Not in British English it isn't. But let's not end a tradition of US bastardising the English language.
As for the OP... Eve is a game, Captain Philips is a film, you would be wise not to attribute characteristics of either of them to a nationality of people who exist in the real world. |
Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:35:00 -
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Mehashi 'Kho wrote:Markku Laaksonen wrote:fyi It's spelled, 'judgmental.' Don't get your panties in a bunch. Not in British English it isn't. But let's not end a tradition of US bastardising the English language. As for the OP... Eve is a game, Captain Philips is a film, you would be wise not to attribute characteristics of either of them to a nationality of people who exist in the real world. This may get as shock to you, but Cpt P is not a movie. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4105
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:45:00 -
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The notions that various governments have about Somalia and the notions that Eve players have about nullsec are comparable.
Somalia is said to be "living under anarchy" as if to imply that it's a constant free for all of violence and mayhem when in fact, outside of Mog, the tribes get along most of the time and their cattle production has had positive GDP at times. Most of the land is owned by the tribes and that being private property is well cared for.
But the comparison is such, we in the west are supposed to go "ooooh! Anarchy! They eat babies!" and then hug our own tyrannical governments so much more.
The "governments" of Eve perpetuate the myth that nullsec is the zone of instant gank and failure - unless you join their alliance of course.
So if you want a comparison, the ONLY thing that compares is the propaganda and the perception of people who believe only what they are told by other people with an agenda.
The rest... meh.
And those Somali "Pirates", uh..... once again it's part of the narrative. Yeah "Somalia has anarchy and therefore... PIRRRAAATESSS!". Yeah, in America, the Coast Guard boards you saying they are looking for drugs and weapons and then asks you about your personal life trying to get anything you say so they can use it against you.
These "pirates" in Somalia are called thus by.. governments... and what were some of these governments doing off the coast of Somalia before these "pirates"?
They were dumping toxic waste. Somali fishermen, having their livelihood destroyed, and no real navy to speak of, had to take matters into their own hands.
So, less than an hour of searching the internet will reveal the truth about Somalia (but hey, that's Africa and they are black to screw it, right? It's not trendy enough) and less than a week of searching New Eden will reveal the truth about the game too.
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Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:02:00 -
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Funny fact: pirates USA 78& ETC1%
Maybe te US goverment should look into their pirate wannabe people. |
Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:05:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The notions that various governments have about Somalia and the notions that Eve players have about nullsec are comparable.
Somalia is said to be "living under anarchy" as if to imply that it's a constant free for all of violence and mayhem when in fact, outside of Mog, the tribes get along most of the time and their cattle production has had positive GDP at times. Most of the land is owned by the tribes and that being private property is well cared for.
But the comparison is such, we in the west are supposed to go "ooooh! Anarchy! They eat babies!" and then hug our own tyrannical governments so much more.
The "governments" of Eve perpetuate the myth that nullsec is the zone of instant gank and failure - unless you join their alliance of course.
So if you want a comparison, the ONLY thing that compares is the propaganda and the perception of people who believe only what they are told by other people with an agenda.
The rest... meh.
And those Somali "Pirates", uh..... once again it's part of the narrative. Yeah "Somalia has anarchy and therefore... PIRRRAAATESSS!". Yeah, in America, the Coast Guard boards you saying they are looking for drugs and weapons and then asks you about your personal life trying to get anything you say so they can use it against you.
These "pirates" in Somalia are called thus by.. governments... and what were some of these governments doing off the coast of Somalia before these "pirates"?
They were dumping toxic waste. Somali fishermen, having their livelihood destroyed, and no real navy to speak of, had to take matters into their own hands.
So, less than an hour of searching the internet will reveal the truth about Somalia (but hey, that's Africa and they are black and have no oil so screw it, right? It's not trendy enough - hey look over there, someone said something politically incorrect! CHARGE!!!) and less than a week of searching New Eden will reveal the truth about the game too.
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Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:06:00 -
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Somalia is possible the best thing to happne on worlds
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Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
317
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:07:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
Ow you almost hurt my feeling with that one
You seem quite bothered by the fact other people might have an opinion on ill-informed and quite frankly ridiculously reactionary statements.
But if you don't think saying "All Americans must think this way.." is an extremely sweeping statement, you should probably check the meaning of the phrase out.
That said, you seem to think most Americans are stupid, so I suppose you do understand it, even if you can't actually put it into a recognisable or coherent thought.
And yes, you pointed out my spelling mistake twice. Good for you.
Here's a little gold star for you *pin*
Now you can be a cowboy.
Woah, easy there Ramona. I apologize for almost hurting your feelings. We can talk about if you want. Get those feelings and burdens off your chest.
It doesn't bother me even a little bit that people have opinions on ill-informed and quite frankly ridiculously reactionary statements, actually, and I wanted to make sure my 'hunch that Americans couldn't point to Somalia on a map' didn't bother you, either. You're clearly very sensitive. I wanted to make a sincere effort to let you know I mean no ill will.
That said, you seem to make quite the leap in your thought process. I don't think most average Americans could point to Somalia on a map. That's quite a far cry from me thinking they're all hopelessly stupid morons. Knowing the location of Somalia has extremely little impact on, I would say, a vast majority of anyone's (American or otherwise) day to day life. Why should I think you're stupid for not knowing where Somalia is?
I pointed out your spelling mistake because you got on your moral high horse. You can't ride the moral high horse unless your saddle is fastened securely (some John Wayne douchebaggery reference for you, Unsuccessful At Everything). In this case, your saddle is correct grammar used to convey 'a recognisable or coherent thought.' (are you non-American English speaking because of S instead of Z?)
I am American. I hope you don't think that I think most of us are stupid. I don't let myself get so easily and childishly offended over something so trivial and petty as OP's asking if Americans hate Somalis and EVE pirates or whatever it was. Hopefully we can be the bestest of pals. Sorry if I almost hurt your feelings. Thanks for the gold star. |
Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:08:00 -
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[quote=Kali Kaline]Somalia is possible to be the best stuff
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Kali Kaline
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:11:00 -
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Kali Kaline wrote:[quote=Kali Kaline]Somalia is possible to be the best stuff
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