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Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.13 16:31:00 -
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Hi all !
Let me start by dying I only started a little over a month ago in EvE. and I have been loving this game so much its like the perfect alter ego that you can play at your leisure .
things I totally dig about EvE :
- Skill Queue I get to progress while i d work in RL and be able to pay my bills ! - seemingly endless options from day 1 to do what evah Da Fuq I wants - all these cool SHIPS !!!! - massive game with long standing history - ONE giant server so you can play with everyone.. and at the same time avoid them too if you just wanna lurk /listen in - graphically/ visually its freakin BEAUTIFUL ! ( eve seems to age beautifully with the times .. i with Eerquest 1 was like this )
ok.. now that I got all that lovely gooey stuff off my chest..
time for this newbie pilot to ask questions I can't get answers from and maybe meet new friends ?
1. I am considering FW or RVB .... i understand abit about FW from reading the EvE uni info.. but I don't know if i want organized military life in EvE.. ( I was in the USMC as a scout/rifleman.. that uniform is done ! ) Can someone here tell me what the RED ten is about and the BLUE team ? i read tier site. its basically one corp split into 2 teams for fun .. PvP anywhere ?
2. I have grown to love exploration more tun doing missions.. altho i do enjoy doing a mission here and there is it wrong to try to fit one ship that does scanning for combat sites,relic,data all in one ? I del the scanning skills will help me with scanning down enemies as well as sites when i do make the jump to FW or RVB. I have not gone out to null space yet.. but i have survived just running thru low sec space to pick up a cheap book or module .
3. I live in a small apartment with my Girlfriend and dog. so personal space and quiet is our best friend.. a girlfriend who lets me play a video game for 2 hours a night after i get home is frelling awesome !!!!!!! but the downside is.. i may never be ble to yell and talk/laugh on a mic or headset will this hurt my chances of being in a corps ?
limited playtime and going "radio silent" i mean ?
this is my main so please feel fee to introduce yourselves to me if you se me in-game ! I wish I had time for making alts. but i work from 7am to 7pm everyday making / painting assets for a game.. some of you may have played it.. Call of Duty ? ( i have never played it.. i only paint and make pretty pictures for the game )
4. will anyone frown upon me if i prefer to stick to only frigates and T1 cruisers ? i just don't think i really want to pilot those huge ships.. i like the speed and look of buzzing about trying' to survive against terrible odds and playing David vs. Goliath ( i've lots 4 destroyers , 2 cruisers , 6 frigates so far trying to fight in places i should have asked for help in. I learned DED 4 is no place for a destroyer... VIGIL and Watch sites can eat my stabber in a short while if i let them swarm me some level 2 missions like RECON make me feel like i've just run a 3 mile sprint
5. how or where do i se my player info online when i'm not in-game ? like who killed me.. etc.etc. I only have Neocom on my iPhone to help me plan skills.. is thee anything else i should use ?
thanks in advance all and i'm looking forward to your feedback !
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
736
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Posted - 2014.01.13 16:56:00 -
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1. I haven't done faction warfare, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually have anything resembling military structure or organization. There seems to be some kind of mix of people who sit around doing nothing in warp stabbed ships and run away from anything that seems like a fight, and people who roam around and shoot each other.
You are correct in your understanding of RvB. It's one organization that has two teams which are permanently at war, so they can PvP all the time without searching hard for fights. Sometimes they team up to fight third parties.
2. I don't know anything about that carebear ****. Generally speaking, you want your ships as specialized as possible.
3. Any corp that does fleet PvP will require you to be able to listen to voice comms. Most will not require you to speak, but it will limit the fleet roles you can participate in. FCing and scouting will be impossible for you.
4. Some corps/alliances have specific doctrines that they will want you to train for which may or may not include your favorite ships. That said, tackle frigates and interceptors are pretty well appreciated in most fleets.
5. I haven't kept up on all the latest apps out there, but kill info can be found on third party killboards like zkillboard.com everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
Leafar Nightfall
Angels and Demons Inc. Mordus Angels
111
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:13:00 -
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2. If you like scanning and combat, you can try the combat anomalies. But you'll probably need the bigger ships to run them and have a good return. Scanning down ships is a completly different matter, as that takes a specific probe launcher that uses 10 times more CPU than what a normal launcher would use, so it's almost impossible to fit in a ship not designed for it
4. No one will frown upon you for this choice. However, if you like the david x goliath feeling, you should look for stealth bombers. But it's more like a swarm of tiny davids raping a goliath as fast as possible. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
4698
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:16:00 -
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reserved Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:22:00 -
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Haedonism Bot
thanks so much for your replies!
it would be fun to be a tackle frigate .. or once i can afford an interceptor and the proper skills for piloting one.. yep i could just be a mute player .. no problem listening to orders/commands tho.. did that for 6yrs.. lol !
so specializing ships is the way to go preferably , i see the total logic in that. but i having limited play time don't want to be flying an exploration frigate only to scan down a site.. then fly back how many jumps to grab the appropriate ship to fight or hack in. I can keep trying fits in different ships i guess .
so a new question has popped up for me then.
say i only fit an expanded core probe launcher.. so i can carry both combat probes and scan probes. y'know, so i can hunt down targets of both the PvP and PvE variety i.e. sites and player targets
is this viable in a T1 frigate ? i know a T2 would probably be better.. but I am not that willing to spend /lose that kinda ISK.. lol
any recommended ships ? I can fly all frigates so far.. well T1 frigates of minmatar, Gallente , Amarr & Caldari I have up to skill 3.. as for ship fitting skills.. i have all but one skill to go for mastery 3 ? ( i can fit T2 support modules like gyro stabilizers, ballistic control, shield and armor repair ) i have to look at my skills agin in game to make sure.
but for cruisers i can only fly Minmatar cruiser 3 . and i'm slowly getting the weapons to catch up
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Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:31:00 -
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Leafar Nightfall wrote:2. If you like scanning and combat, you can try the combat anomalies. But you'll probably need the bigger ships to run them and have a good return. Scanning down ships is a completly different matter, as that takes a specific probe launcher that uses 10 times more CPU than what a normal launcher would use, so it's almost impossible to fit in a ship not designed for it
4. No one will frown upon you for this choice. However, if you like the david x goliath feeling, you should look for stealth bombers. But it's more like a swarm of tiny davids raping a goliath as fast as possible.
ya i been scanning down anything i can get to 100%.
I did NOT know that those launchers are more CPU intensive.. hmnn.. guess i should see ici can fit one in my frigates. anyone know which T1 frogs can fit the combat/scan probe launchers ? Expanded core probe launchers i think they're called.
i like the combat sites that take awhile to find.. some are DEFINITELY harder than others . if i am on a limited budget.. its probably more cost effective to stay on T1 cruisers for now ? and just pray i learn player skills snuff to survive or even win some of the more difficult combat signatures ?
ok I am looking up the needed skills.. and recommendations for stealth bombers.. ( probably gonna be expensive for me till i learn how to make more money )
thank you for your input ! http://ahanddrawnlife.tumblr.com my artwork ! |
Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
225
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:30:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:I did NOT know that those launchers are more CPU intensive.. hmnn.. guess i should see ici can fit one in my frigates. anyone know which T1 frogs can fit the combat/scan probe launchers ? Expanded core probe launchers i think they're called.
Not of the top of my head, though I know it's a pain to put it in just about any ship. Takes up a lot CPU which often leaves you wanting in other parts of your fit. However, it's quite easy for you to find out. I highly recommend you download EFT or Pyfa (external ship fitting tools). These programs allow you to test out different fits and see exactly what you can and can't fit on a ship without having to actually buy the mods with ISK. You can even load your character's API key to see the actual stats you will get while flying the ship, like DPS, tank, speed etc. It's also a great way to see which skills affect your ship and by how much. www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
737
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:35:00 -
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Most any T1 frigate can fit a core probe launcher, although you might have to compromise somewhat in other areas to get it on. Only the dedicated exploration frigates can realistically handle an expanded launcher (probe, heron, imicus, amarr something). I'm not sure if it is viable to run highsec combat sites in these, but I tend to think not so much. Probably others here know better. In low/NPC null I seem to see lots of T3 cruisers being used for that, and sovnull isn't my thing, so I can't really speak to that.
As for PvP frigates, my personal favorite is the blaster Merlin, but more so for solo or small gang work than for fleets. It can fit a solid shield tank for a frigate and has enough dps to take down a battleship solo with decent skills and enough ammo. For a fleet tackler I'm a fan of either the Slasher or the Executioner. Fit them for a balance of tank and speed, then add whatever guns you can squeeze on. Tackling is one of those things where it is easy to get started, but takes experience to master. It is great fun and pilots who are really good at it are an asset to any fleet. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1308
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:38:00 -
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I would not recommend bombers for a new player. They are extremely inflexible. They're great at what they do, but they require a gang and specialized tactics. There are many, many situations where a bomber is extremely impractical and if that's the only thing you can fly properly you're going to be very limited in what you can do.
That said - as a general rule, staying with frigs and cruisers is a fine idea. I've been playing since 2007 and fly frigates almost exclusively. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1019
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:39:00 -
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Since you've only been playing a month, if someone wants you to fly something besides frigates and cruisers, politely tell them to get bent. Only for level 3 PvE missions should you even consider a battlecruiser. For anything PvP, you should be in a frigate for a good while yet. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
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Leafar Nightfall
Angels and Demons Inc. Mordus Angels
111
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:43:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:. I highly recommend you download EFT or Pyfa (external ship fitting tools). .
Just to add up, you can do the same with the Neocom app you said you have. Browse the frigates and look up their bonuses, so you can have a good idea on their role.
There are two types of scanning, and you probably won't be able to fit the expanded probe launcher on T1 frigs. To scan signatures you should look up the exploration frigates (Heron, Probe, Imicus and Magnate). To scan ships you can look up their T2 counterparts
Keep in mind that scanning ships is normally a role on it's on in a fleet. You'll only be scanning and combating if you can change your ships. Scanning signatures on the other hand is doable with ships that are not specifically made for that, but like I mentioned before you'll need bigger ships to make it worth running those sites. A good rule of thumb is that for PvE, the bigger your ship is, the better is the income. You can always run the anomalies too, which are the sites that show up on your scanner without the need to scan them down.
I'd recommend you set strategic cruisers as your long term goal, as they are good for PvE while still in the Cruisers size. Just keep in mind to focus on one or two races at most, as each of them has bonuses for different weapon systems and crosstraining that would take a long time.
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1308
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:51:00 -
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Quote:I'd recommend you set strategic cruisers as your long term goal, as they are good for PvE while still in the Cruisers size. Just keep in mind to focus on one or two races at most, as each of them has bonuses for different weapon systems and crosstraining that would take a long time.
there are plenty of cruiser hulls that are good for PVE outside of the realm of t3s - the Gila, Ishtar, and other t2/pirate cruisers come to mind. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3530
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:01:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:Hi all !
Let me start by saying I only started a little over a month ago in EvE. and I have been loving this game so much its like the perfect alter ego that you can play at your leisure .
things I totally dig about EvE :
- Skill Queue I get to progress while i do work in RL and be able to pay my bills ! - seemingly endless options from day 1 to do what evah Da Fuq I wants - all these cool SHIPS !!!! - massive game with long standing history - ONE giant server so you can play with everyone.. and at the same time avoid them too if you just wanna lurk /listen in - graphically/ visually its freakin BEAUTIFUL ! ( eve seems to age beautifully with the times .. i with Eerquest 1 was like this )
ok.. now that I got all that lovely gooey stuff off my chest..
time for this newbie pilot to ask questions I can get answers from and maybe meet new friends ?
1. I am considering FW or RVB .... i understand abit about FW from reading the EvE uni info.. but I don't know if i want organized military life in EvE.. ( I was in the USMC as a scout/rifleman.. that uniform is done ! ) Can someone here tell me what the RED ten is about and the BLUE team ? i read tier site. its basically one corp split into 2 teams for fun .. PvP anywhere ?
2. I have grown to love exploration more tun doing missions.. altho i do enjoy doing a mission here and there is it wrong to try to fit one ship that does scanning for combat sites,relic,data all in one ? I del the scanning skills will help me with scanning down enemies as well as sites when i do make the jump to FW or RVB. I have not gone out to null space yet.. but i have survived just running thru low sec space to pick up a cheap book or module .
3. I live in a small apartment with my Girlfriend and dog. so personal space and quiet is our best friend.. a girlfriend who lets me play a video game for 2 hours a night after i get home is frelling awesome !!!!!!! but the downside is.. i may never be ble to yell and talk/laugh on a mic or headset will this hurt my chances of being in a corps ?
limited playtime and going "radio silent" i mean ?
this is my main so please feel fee to introduce yourselves to me if you se me in-game ! I wish I had time for making alts. but i work from 7am to 7pm everyday making / painting assets for a game.. some of you may have played it.. Call of Duty ? ( i have never played it.. i only paint and make pretty pictures for the game )
4. will anyone frown upon me if i prefer to stick to only frigates and T1 cruisers ? i just don't think i really want to pilot those huge ships.. i like the speed and look of buzzing about trying' to survive against terrible odds and playing David vs. Goliath ( i've lots 4 destroyers , 2 cruisers , 6 frigates so far trying to fight in places i should have asked for help in. I learned DED 4 is no place for a destroyer... VIGIL and Watch sites can eat my stabber in a short while if i let them swarm me some level 2 missions like RECON make me feel like i've just run a 3 mile sprint
5. how or where do i se my player info online when i'm not in-game ? like who killed me.. etc.etc. I only have Neocom on my iPhone to help me plan skills.. is thee anything else i should use ?
thanks in advance all and i'm looking forward to your feedback !
1. FW isn't USMC style military style. It's a game after all. Sure during fleet combats, there is a chain of command to make the fleet more efficient (aka scouts/FC/etc talk during battle).
RvB...2 corps, 1 war. They are a community that exist for 1 reason: target rich waters to shoot others. Basically, with limited rules, PvP everywhere except Jita.
2. There aren't really "all-in-one" ships in EVE. You can build one to do multiple things, but it will be a lot less efficient at any of those things compared to using a ship that fits for the duty. See ships as tools, they all have a specific duty in which they shine. You can try to hammer in a screw, it's possible, but it's more efficient to use a screwdriver in that case.
3. Yes and No. Let's just say, not having a mic (or the ability to speak) isn't going to be a very big problem, unless you are in a position where you need to talk (being a scout or Fleet Commander in a fleet for instance), but the majority of the time listening is just good enough.
The no part...well, if you are in a corporation that is highly active on comms, you might feel a bit left out. Because in such cases corp-chat isn't very active as people are speaking to each other. This can easily be overcome though, eventually people (if you are in a good corp) will understand you can't speak and will just read your chat. I've got to know a fair bit of people that don't want / can't speak on comms for their own personal reasons, to which all I can say, people I know also respected those exact same reasons.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3071
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:44:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:1. I am considering FW or RVB .... i understand abit about FW from reading the EvE uni info.. but I don't know if i want organized military life in EvE.. ( I was in the USMC as a scout/rifleman.. that uniform is done ! ) Can someone here tell me what the RED ten is about and the BLUE team ? i read tier site. its basically one corp split into 2 teams for fun .. PvP anywhere ? Right now it looks like Blue needs members, but you really should join their in-game chat channel R-V-B and ask: Red Federation [3602] Blue Republic [3338]
RvB combat can occur anywhere except Jita, but primarily in Onirvura constellation, which pretty much leaves the rest of the universe free for doing whatever else you want.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1730
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:17:00 -
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1: There's no difference in what Red and Blue stand for.
Also, check out Brave Newbies.
2: Exploration has two main categories of sites. Hacking type sites which are best done in a cloaked non-combat ship, and combat ones which are best done in agile combat ships such as tech 2 cruisers.
3: I second what has been said already - you can't scout and can't FC without voice comms but can do almost everything else. In small gangs having no outgoing voice is more of an issue but in large fleets it is fine.
4: I do not like flying larger ships myself. Tech 1 cruisers for risky things, tech 2 cruisers for less risky things. Works just fine for me. T1 frigates do indeed have a role as light disposable tackle, but while low SP pilots can do that well, it actually requires some fairly advanced player skill to survive approaching larger ships.
In the future, if you like flying tackle, you can train into Interceptors, Interdictors and Heavy Interdiction Cruisers. All of these ships are very desired in fleets, and in particular flying a Heavy Interdiction Cruiser puts you in an excellent position to strategically backstab your 'friends' and get titans killed. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:01:00 -
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Leafar Nightfall wrote:2. If you like scanning and combat, you can try the combat anomalies. But you'll probably need the bigger ships to run them and have a good return. Scanning down ships is a completly different matter, as that takes a specific probe launcher that uses 10 times more CPU than what a normal launcher would use, so it's almost impossible to fit in a ship not designed for it
i love the combat sites ! lost a good ship to a VIGIL site .. lol i hear people say you can run combat sites with an assault frigate ? what do you mean exactly by " a good return " ? you mean profit ? or rewards vs. risk ?
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Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
129
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:20:00 -
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1. I recommend FW over RvB. RvB has too many rules, where you can and cannot fight and no EWAR. Not so much can and cannot but that you cant access Jita. No EWAR makes combat unrealistic compared to the normal combat in the game. They could make more can and cannot rules for that, or where and where not, but it's just all cannot. They do other stuff together though, more regular player corp like. If you are trying to avoid rules or ranks or whatever, RvB might not be for you. FW is a system mechanic, so open to your own interpretation of how to go about it. All it does is reward you for shooting at the right targets, yet doesn't restrain you from doing pretty much whatever you want. You will find all types of corps involved in FW.
2. err they have changed exploration a lot recently. I wish they hadn't. No you really cant fit a ship to do it all any longer, as it used to be. In fact if you do it with a frigate (e.g. T1 Heron or T2 Buzzard), you are so overloaded with this new junk you become an unarmed and undefended sitting duck. I think it breaks with the design of EVE in general. The new lead dev used to play this game as a Pirate, so I can only guess this his idea of throwing a carrot to his old buddies, to give them more easy targets to be less bored.
But yes, still playable (though I do it less now), you can set a waypoint to the combat site and switch to a combat ship. You can still fit a regular combat cruiser with a probe and go in with some fair probing skills. To do the harder DED sites you may need friends. Doing radar sites and such can still be profitable as well.
3. That's not what GF's are for...
4. Fur the first few months, np. Whatever anyone else will or will not think, you will most likely change your mind and go with T2, T3 or even train battleships at some point. But as far as PvP, frigs are the most common. T1 cruisers are common as well due to their low replacement value especially insured. If running missions/plexes, you'll eventually want to move to something with more DPS or such.
5. evemon & EFT for PC. Some apps for ipad, but don't know since I use an N7 and apps for that (e.g. Aura). There are webpage killboards other than that. You can find a list of apps in ISK the Guide, free 1000p PDF download.
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Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:22:00 -
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Such awesome info.. thanks all.. I will visit these links and the others like J'poll and others have suggested.
hmn.. ok ill try to find someone in Blue team to speak to !
so if i get really good at my support skills and eventually my weapon skills into specialization and stay on frigate sized vessels I may just find all the thrills and excitement i want in abundance , can a T1 frigate or destroyer with really really good skills survive most DED/Combat sites ?
i don't mind that i won't get it done fast or get rich in ISK doing it..but i do understand i need to generate an income to keep flying ships and buying fittings. i just want to have fun and experience the challenge of it. and if i add the spontaneous elements of PvP anywhere.. that should keep me from being bored.. hell it might even make me mad at times.. lol ! but its part of the attraction i have with open world of Everybody Vs. Everybody http://ahanddrawnlife.tumblr.com my artwork ! |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3533
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:28:00 -
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Omega Sunset wrote:1. I recommend FW over RvB. RvB has too many rules, where you can and cannot fight and no EWAR. Not so much can and cannot but that you cant access Jita. No EWAR makes combat unrealistic compared to the normal combat in the game. They could make more can and cannot rules for that, or where and where not, but it's just all cannot. They do other stuff together though, more regular player corp like. If you are trying to avoid rules or ranks or whatever, RvB might not be for you. FW is a system mechanic, so open to your own interpretation of how to go about it. All it does is reward you for shooting at the right targets, yet doesn't restrain you from doing pretty much whatever you want. You will find all types of corps involved in FW.
Well, I now have to reply to it.
First, the no ECM module rule is in place for a reason...there is no fun in being blown up while perma jammed all the time. True, it ain't a good comparison with the rest of PvP in EVE, but neither is FW (or does every bit of PvP in EVE requires you to carry 3 scrams because everything is warp stabbed to the max???)
As for where you can and can't fight....that's simple:
Can't: Jita Can: Look at system name, does it say anything but Jita....your fine.
And RvB doesn't have a real rank system. The rules are there to provide everybody with as much fun fights as possible. The ranks they have...well unless you want to do special stuff like recruiting, being team leader etc. they are optional.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3533
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:33:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:Such awesome info.. thanks all.. I will visit these links and the others like J'poll and others have suggested. hmn.. ok ill try to find someone in Blue team to speak to !
As suggested, join their public channel: R-V-B and ask for a recruiter, doesn't matter which side.
They play as a single community, they just fight each other. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
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Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
130
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:40:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote: lol i hear people say you can run combat sites with an assault frigate ? Yeah I'm currently in the process of test flying a new build on hawk for that, lvl4 missions and combat sites. Just waiting for my AF skill to tick up one more. I've had a lot of success with the Hookbill, but the AF fits a bit better.
J'Poll wrote:
Well, I now have to reply to it.
First, the no ECM module rule is in place for a reason...there is no fun in being blown up while perma jammed all the time. True, it ain't a good comparison with the rest of PvP in EVE, but neither is FW (or does every bit of PvP in EVE requires you to carry 3 scrams because everything is warp stabbed to the max???)
As for where you can and can't fight....that's simple:
Can't: Jita Can: Look at system name, does it say anything but Jita....your fine.
And RvB doesn't have a real rank system. The rules are there to provide everybody with as much fun fights as possible. The ranks they have...well unless you want to do special stuff like recruiting, being team leader etc. they are optional.
Still not realistic. Not even practicing counter measures or tactics against jammers. I'll just say... Maaaatt Daaamooonnn... heh, as in dumb. But other than that, *shrugs* RvB fits for some peeps. GÇö+¬GÇö |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3533
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:45:00 -
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Omega Sunset wrote:Arc'Los Xyn wrote: lol i hear people say you can run combat sites with an assault frigate ? Yeah I'm currently in the process of test flying a new build on hawk for that, lvl4 missions and combat sites. Just waiting for my AF skill to tick up one more. I've had a lot of success with the Hookbill, but the AF fits a bit better. J'Poll wrote:
Well, I now have to reply to it.
First, the no ECM module rule is in place for a reason...there is no fun in being blown up while perma jammed all the time. True, it ain't a good comparison with the rest of PvP in EVE, but neither is FW (or does every bit of PvP in EVE requires you to carry 3 scrams because everything is warp stabbed to the max???)
As for where you can and can't fight....that's simple:
Can't: Jita Can: Look at system name, does it say anything but Jita....your fine.
And RvB doesn't have a real rank system. The rules are there to provide everybody with as much fun fights as possible. The ranks they have...well unless you want to do special stuff like recruiting, being team leader etc. they are optional.
Still not realistic. Not even practicing counter measures or tactics against jammers. I'll just say... Maaaatt Daaamooonnn... heh, as in dumb. But other than that, *shrugs* RvB fits for some peeps.
Obviously never flown with RvB I see.
If you did, you would know that ECM is used...against the many 3rd party wars. And so is counters to them.
Or during special weekends where it's allowed Or on null-sec roams. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
130
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:53:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:
Obviously never flown with RvB I see.
If you did, you would know that ECM is used...against the many 3rd party wars. And so is counters to them.
Or during special weekends where it's allowed Or on null-sec roams.
Speaking of what RvB does within it's own play-style, which is primarily RvB. No I'm not an RvB recruiter. Yes in this case of the OP I far more recommend FW. I've recommended RvB, but not in this case.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1734
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Posted - 2014.01.14 00:07:00 -
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Oh and speaking of RVB, if you want hilarity, join them, then fit a smartbombing battleship and put it in a station in a system where they are fighting. Then, rock up to a fleet fight in a frigate, and on losing your ship, reship into your smartbombing battleship, come back, and set off the smartbombs.
You may well be able to get 10-20 ships and pods, although you'll never be welcome in RVB again. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
130
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:29:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:it would be fun to be a tackle frigate .. or once i can afford an interceptor and the proper skills for piloting one.. Oh and reason I suggest FW is since you like plexing, which is a big part of FW. And yes, you will find the interceptor very useful in that theater. Secondary, probably stealth bombers since anyway if you go for a T2 explorer which will be a minimal SP dump to bombers apart from torpedoes which can take a little time. Though bomber is not a primary role so interceptor first. Long term goals, but T1's are very common, so don't feel you need to gain a lot of SP to start. GÇö+¬GÇö |
Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.01.14 16:14:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:reservedArc'Los Xyn wrote:1. I am considering FW or RVB .... i understand abit about FW from reading the EvE uni info.. but I don't know if i want organized military life in EvE.. ( I was in the USMC as a scout/rifleman.. that uniform is done ! ) Can someone here tell me what the RED ten is about and the BLUE team ? i read tier site. its basically one corp split into 2 teams for fun .. PvP anywhere ? Basically... If you are good, being a probe scanner will get you into almost any PvP fleet (note: you will be basically volunteering for "scout" duty though). As far as fitting is concerned... There are 4 aspects when fitting a ship; - speed - tank - damage - utility Now choose 2.5 of those. EVE is a game rooted in trade-offs. You can never have "everything at the same time"... rather, you must choose what you need and try to adapt your tactics accordingly. If you DO try to "fit everything" then the trade-off is that you will be less effective overall compared to any ship that choose to focus on certain aspects. The same principle holds true with almost every aspect of EVE. Never "mix" tanking styles... don't use "rainbow" weapons/ammo... etc. Arc'Los Xyn wrote:3. I live in a small apartment with my Girlfriend and dog. so personal space and quiet is our best friend.. a girlfriend who lets me play a video game for 2 hours a night after i get home is frelling awesome !!!!!!! but the downside is.. i may never be ble to yell and talk/laugh on a mic or headset will this hurt my chances of being in a corps ? It's perfectly fine to be one of the "quiet" people... just understand that you will be teased for it and won't be able to be the Fleet Commander or Scout if all you can do is type. 2 more things... 1. The Farscape is strong with you. Kudos. 2. Where can I too find a "unicorn" like yours? (assuming you didn't just put googly eyes and a wig on your sock) Arc'Los Xyn wrote:4. will anyone frown upon me if i prefer to stick to only frigates and T1 cruisers ? i just don't think i really want to pilot those huge ships.. i like the speed and look of buzzing about trying' to survive against terrible odds and playing David vs. Goliath ( i've lots 4 destroyers , 2 cruisers , 6 frigates so far trying to fight in places i should have asked for help in). Check out my killboard. After 4-5 years I still mostly fly Tech 1 frigates, destroyers, and cruisers with the occasional Tech 2 stuff. If you learn how to fly them and pick your battles, they can be very deadly.
hehe ! such great info thanks so much for you taking your time to give such concise answer to my noobie questionnaire . Lol !
Ah yeah I enjoyed watching Farscape ( one of my co-workers is /was the concept artist for 2 seasons of the show ) we both wished Farscape & Serenity both kept on going or had new life brought to them.
as for the " Unicorn" like where most unexpected things come from.. in the places you don't look ! I met my GF actually out of random total chance.. and in the moment of me not trying to be cool and just honestly being me.. we both found out we had a connection! I normally wouldn't blurt out random opinions when i meet someone for the first time.. but i had been so comfortable in talking to her that in our first meeting i made comment about how i was tired of hollywood re-making classic movies into recycled shiny "POO" ( edited for content.. lol ! ) I KNEW i had the right girl walk into my life when she said : " Oh yeah.. if they ever even think of trying to remake The Matrix, heads are gonna roll ! "
and as for piloting ships... GREAT ! I love me a game where player skill is a larger factor than in-game character skill !
Omega SunsetOmega Sunset wrote: Posted: 2014.01.14 01:29
Arc'Los Xyn wrote: it would be fun to be a tackle frigate .. or once i can afford an interceptor and the proper skills for piloting one..
Oh and reason I suggest FW is since you like plexing, which is a big part of FW. And yes, you will find the interceptor very useful in that theater. Secondary, probably stealth bombers since anyway if you go for a T2 explorer which will be a minimal SP dump to bombers apart from torpedoes which can take a little time. Though bomber is not a primary role so interceptor first. Long term goals, but T1's are very common, so don't feel you need to gain a lot of SP to start.
ya the interceptor frigates are really cool looking to me both in roles and aesthetics... I also am very curious about how your HAWK will work on level 4 missions ! please keep me updated ? ! thank you !
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
543
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:22:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:Newbian Pilot lands in New Eden
What's a Newbian? "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:23:00 -
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LOL ! thats priceles.. lol especially the Lando Calrisian comments.. rofl http://ahanddrawnlife.tumblr.com my artwork ! |
Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
1861
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:41:00 -
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Welcome, newbian one.
Be sure n' put wormhole exploration on your agenda sometime.
Have funnnnn o/ Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model) H4WK. CEO | Just another innocent explorer-á pâä
Herrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Arc'Los Xyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:44:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Welcome, newbian one. Be sure n' put wormhole exploration on your agenda sometime. Have funnnnn o/
i did go into one recently ! it had 16 sites.. all of which i quickly chickened out of trying to explore.. i book marked it.. and asked if nyone wanted the site.. but no one trusted me and wouldn't take it. *shrug*
what can i do realistically in a wormhole at under 2 months of age in EvE ?
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