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DearLeader
Jedi Knight's Orden Jedi Path
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Posted - 2014.01.15 10:51:00 -
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Greetings, habitants of a New Eden.
As you know, corporation bookmarks added in a Crucible made a lot of people happier, small and large corporations sighed with relief, and everyone almost forgot about taking BMs from a GÇ£can on a spotGÇ¥ ^_^. But EVE grows, and I think it`s time to ask or even require CCP to make an Alliance bookmarks.
The scheme should be identical to corp. bookmarks - folders, everyone with a director role can save such BMs, or maybe a new role should be added - something like "Alliance communications officer", everyone with the same or higher roles can modify alliance bookmarks. The only thing i dunno is a minimal amount of Bms, because: - a)I dunno how they affect server stability - b)I dunno how much BMs people need. For example, for wormholler its enough to have 100-150 Bms (some spots+ holes\sigs scanned today), but if we speak about lowsec or nullsec guys - they have lots of stuff to save - 300 from every gate, Undock Bms, POSes, etc.
So, i`m calling a support for this thread. If you care about your Alliance, please like this post and support this thread.
Sincerely yours CEO of Jedi Path Dearleader.
Double in Russian - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4111215#post4111215 |
Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2014.01.15 11:08:00 -
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don't need em Sky Fighters is now recruiting a few more US/AU players https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4033197#post4033197 Talvorian Dex's Blog:-áhttp://targetcaller.blogspot.com/ |
bandRK Numon
NetSpace Jedi Path
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Posted - 2014.01.15 11:26:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:don't need em Reason ? |
Caius Beriat
Whale Girth Grand Sky Wizards
121
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Posted - 2014.01.15 11:56:00 -
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bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:don't need em Reason ?
They're not in an alliance? |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
2919
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Posted - 2014.01.15 12:14:00 -
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Alliances are such namby pambies these days... You dont need them. If you want a reason you can quote me on, WH space doesnt need any more incentive to blob up into alliances.
(PS: if you get the reference, props ;) ) Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
135
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Posted - 2014.01.15 14:20:00 -
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I think that next iteration should rather be contextual bookmarks. Something like you drag bookmark to mail edittor or chat window and everyone reading it might add or warp to this bookmark. This would make much more sense and bring some more UI comfort. |
bubble trout
Sky Fighters
175
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Posted - 2014.01.15 15:20:00 -
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Even when I was in talocan, I didn't want alliance bookmarks. The corp with the shittiest security would compromise all our ops from the get go. Even alliance wide siggy was bad.
Those were dark days. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.15 15:50:00 -
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My entrenched spy alt army welcomes alliance bm.
Jack Jack Jack - you love all that is 'conflict driver' How do you not see this as the great idea that it is??
A better idea would be to make WH pop up the same way belts and anoms do. The whole issue would go away with just a slight change in the code. You should really only have to scan gas sites and ghost sites (the both start with 'g' for a reason). Delete the anal/hack sites all together as no one does them anymore. |
HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
345
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Posted - 2014.01.15 16:10:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:My entrenched spy alt army welcomes alliance bm. Jack Jack Jack - you love all that is 'conflict driver' How do you not see this as the great idea that it is?? A better idea would be to make WH pop up the same way belts and anoms do. The whole issue would go away with just a slight change in the code. You should really only have to scan gas sites and ghost sites (the both start with 'g' for a reason). Delete the anal/hack sites all together as no one does them anymore.
i lold
And reason: Security and Comfort
In terms of Member growth, it can boost trust and independancy. Simple fact, you want to move in ... make your own corp and setup a tower .. no asset problems...
Established Alliances like Noho and Kill can share there BMs easier for better fleet manuvers ... and yaddi yaddi yaddi ...
Downside: Server LOAD for Large Scale Alliances ... like Goons ... that can take a while ... so its a technical error, if they can do some sort of Bookmark TiDi meaning CCP nerfing the propagating of bookmarks for huge member based alliances that would be cool but not really what most of Eve wants or understands with that .... sooo wierd issue... sadly... My mind does not reflect my corp ... it just shows you what they care about...
The Pontiff of Wormholes http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism |
Chitsa Jason
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1076
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Posted - 2014.01.15 16:16:00 -
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During the first summit with CCP we have talked about Fleet bookmarks. So they do know. Fleet bookmarks are also on the CSM Reasonable things initiative. I for one dont think alliance bookmarks would solve the problem. It would be better to have above mentioned system where fleet or contact list can share bookmarks. CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
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Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
514
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:56:00 -
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bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:don't need em Reason ? Because we are not in alliance yet Sky Fighters is now recruiting a few more US/AU players https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4033197#post4033197 Talvorian Dex's Blog:-áhttp://targetcaller.blogspot.com/ |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
735
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:00:00 -
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No alliance bookmarks please. No trolling please |
Iyokus Patrouette
End-of-Line
94
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:01:00 -
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Sure lets do alliance bookmarks. But they only get one.. and it leads to me. where i will greet them with a rolled up newspaper.
Alliance bookmarks. . . the cool kids say no.
Join End-of-Line, -EOL, today, and kill your CEO! (Terms and conditions apply.) |
Kalel Nimrott
Sky Fighters
762
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:22:00 -
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Give me 350 corp bms than alliance wide security containement breach..., I mean, alliace bms. Get me out of here |
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
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Posted - 2014.01.16 09:52:00 -
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How about a new folder for corps in an alliance can put bms in that will share with the whole alliance. Then you could add and remove them at your leisure. |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
2920
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Posted - 2014.01.16 13:13:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:How about a new folder for corps in an alliance can put bms in that will share with the whole alliance. Then you could add and remove them at your leisure. so...alliance bookmarks? yeah, we told you no already. but hell, im a reasonable man, ill compromise. you can have alliance bookmarks, with a total of 10 allowable BMs. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
1301
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Posted - 2014.01.16 14:19:00 -
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Thanks jack. And when can we have it exactly? +1 |
Kalel Nimrott
Sky Fighters
762
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Posted - 2014.01.16 14:26:00 -
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Tuesday. Get me out of here |
Quinn Corvez
Probe Patrol Polarized.
173
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:32:00 -
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Yaaaay \o/ |
Hayden Starkiller
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
0
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:28:00 -
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So besides supposed server demand, does anyone else see anything wrong with alliance BM's?
Blobing is not an issue for me, since there is an upper limit of how big a fleet can be in wh to hunt and kill. Seeding has the potential to field a null sec worthy blob, but i've never seen or heard of a 2000 man wh fleet. |
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unimatrix0030
Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed.
78
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:39:00 -
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Alliance bookmarks would be handy, maybe to reduce server load, they can make em only last 24 hours?
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Hayden Starkiller
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
0
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:55:00 -
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Personally i don't think it will add anything to server load, but that is the only somewhat thought out reason (probably a non issue) in this thread as to why alliance BM's would be bad. lol |
bandRK Numon
NetSpace Jedi Path
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Posted - 2014.01.17 12:44:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:don't need em Reason ? Because we are not in alliance yet Are you sure ? Probably, you don't have actual information. |
Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:16:00 -
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bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:don't need em Reason ? Because we are not in alliance yet Are you sure ? Probably, you don't have actual information.
Want to try and write something we can understand?
Sky Fighters is now recruiting a few more US/AU players https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4033197#post4033197 Talvorian Dex's Blog:-áhttp://targetcaller.blogspot.com/ |
bandRK Numon
NetSpace Jedi Path
41
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:34:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:bandRK Numon wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:don't need em Reason ? Because we are not in alliance yet Are you sure ? Probably, you don't have actual information. Want to try and write something we can understand?
Maybe in future, your corporation will be part of alliance and you will have the same problem. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
73
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:40:00 -
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Server load won't be affected by wh alliance bm shinanigans. When bm get spammed and un spammed then respammed to 5000 scrubs in a large null alliance - I'm not a computer girl, but that might take up some cpu time. For newer folks - warp to zero (which ruined the game as predicted) was instituted to remove bm copying from the game. Alliance bm could possibly bring that back. "OK, everyone put a bm in the alliance folder in 3....2.....1" (make the pac man getting eaten sounds). There is more to eve than wh life when making these changes.
All this discussion is kind of pointless for 2 reasons:
1) Jack said "NO" 2) Bane said "...[no]... please" |
Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
517
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:50:00 -
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We were part of (what was at the time) the biggest alliance in WH space. Even if we still were I still wouldn't want them. Sky Fighters is now recruiting a few more US/AU players https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4033197#post4033197 Talvorian Dex's Blog:-áhttp://targetcaller.blogspot.com/ |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
738
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:57:00 -
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I want alliance bookmarks so RCC can become the largest alliance ingame and then we'll take all the C6 systems and create a fight club. I also want those that apply nonexistent rules on how we should play to be mad :)
Wormhole Minister of High Society @autoritare | The Diogenes Club |
Hayden Starkiller
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
2
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:45:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Server load won't be affected by wh alliance bm shinanigans. When bm get spammed and un spammed then respammed to 5000 scrubs in a large null alliance - I'm not a computer girl, but that might take up some cpu time. For newer folks - warp to zero (which ruined the game as predicted) was instituted to remove bm copying from the game. Alliance bm could possibly bring that back. "OK, everyone put a bm in the alliance folder in 3....2.....1" (make the pac man getting eaten sounds). There is more to eve than wh life when making these changes.
Im not sure exactly what your point is here, maybe tl'dr.
As this post is in the WH section of the forum, im only concerned at how alliance bookmarks will change that particular aspect of the game.
Using the 'I'm not a computer girl' license to make assumptions how eve runs on the back end I will make the point that corp bookmarks already exist for these '5000 scrubs in a large null alliance' and there has been no issue with everybody creating a corp BM at the same time. Im sure if you have already used the corp bookmark feature you will notice the update is not instant, this might be a delayed update so other server requests take higher priority over the bookmark update. Plus if this is done intentionally to cause some kind of server lag then it wil be handled the same way other issues of generating server lag is handled.
Im sure the actual 'computer girl' at ccp can figure out how to share one more table.
In summary, don't care, ALLIANCE BM's NOW. Blobbers going to blob, moar servers!
PS. Have we come up with the min size a fleet can be before its called a blob? Or are we going to stick with any fleet that was bigger than mine? |
Kalel Nimrott
Sky Fighters
764
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:15:00 -
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We always managed fine without alliance bm. Why change?
PD. Why the ******* walls of quotes? Get me out of here |
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