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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4411
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:11:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP is an isk sink, giving null sec ratters LP is actually a VERy good thing for the game overall, because now a good portion of that 600 to 700 bil per day sov null generates will be sunk into LP.
It does seem to suck for high sec navy mission runners however. it may even affect lvl 5 missions.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
229
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:13:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP stores are an isk sink. How does it worsen inflation, when there's no money coming into the game via LP? Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Fr3akwave
Space Road Truckers.
26
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:15:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
I dont know if you know how many LPs FW mission runners make, but my guess is that the inflation inflicted by this small amount will most likely not noticeable at all. |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:20:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP stores are an isk sink. How does it worsen inflation, when there's no money coming into the game via LP?
Really? your that dumb? Because there's NO item in the LP store that ONLY costs LP right? |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:21:00 -
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To gain said LP, those in null would actually need to stay in null and run belts/anoms/sigs/etc. I like this change.
I see nothing wrong with these units giving out LP. These look better, but I am unsure if we will see widespread use. I hope we do.
Note: if you have substantial inventories in LP purchased items (implants, ammo, etc) I suggest you unload immediately. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6176
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:22:00 -
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This is a great improvement, thanks for getting it pushed out so quickly. "I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:23:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:To gain said LP, those in null would actually need to stay in null and run belts/anoms/sigs/etc. I like this change.
I see nothing wrong with these units giving out LP. These look better, but I am unsure if we will see widespread use. I hope we do.
Because people in null don't rat/anom/sig in null now right? |
Red Teufel
Mafia Redux Phobia.
349
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:24:00 -
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I approve. now get rid of the ridiculous overheating balance. |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:27:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:This is a great improvement, thanks for getting it pushed out so quickly.
And the award for biggest brownnose goes to..... |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
231
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:29:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP stores are an isk sink. How does it worsen inflation, when there's no money coming into the game via LP? Really? your that dumb? Because there's NO item in the LP store that ONLY costs LP right? Yeah I must be dumb, because a sink is where you put money in and none comes out.
You put money into the LP store and it turns into a module.
So... when does the LP store generate ISK out of thin air? :)
You are obviously much smarter than everybody else, so explain it to us. :)
Edith reminds you, btw: you're* :) Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
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Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:30:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Notorious Fellon wrote:To gain said LP, those in null would actually need to stay in null and run belts/anoms/sigs/etc. I like this change.
I see nothing wrong with these units giving out LP. These look better, but I am unsure if we will see widespread use. I hope we do. Because people in null don't rat/anom/sig in null now right?
You need to calm down and drop the attitude. There are many in this very thread who claim that they do not. Some do, and some don't. This *may* draw those who do not back down into null which is obviously what CCP is trying to encourage.
At the very least, some will return until the LP market bottoms out. |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:32:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP stores are an isk sink. How does it worsen inflation, when there's no money coming into the game via LP? Really? your that dumb? Because there's NO item in the LP store that ONLY costs LP right? Yeah I must be dumb, because a sink is where you put money in and none comes out. You put money into the LP store and it turns into a module. So... when does the LP store generate ISK out of thin air? :) You are obviously much smarter than everybody else, so explain it to us. :) Edith reminds you, btw: you're* :)
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters) |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:33:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:Notorious Fellon wrote:To gain said LP, those in null would actually need to stay in null and run belts/anoms/sigs/etc. I like this change.
I see nothing wrong with these units giving out LP. These look better, but I am unsure if we will see widespread use. I hope we do. Because people in null don't rat/anom/sig in null now right? You need to calm down and drop the attitude. There are many in this very thread who claim that they do not. Some do, and some don't. This *may* draw those who do not back down into null which is obviously what CCP is trying to encourage. At the very least, some will return until the LP market bottoms out.
Oh please, tell me more of what I need to do..
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4411
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:35:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.
Don't embarrass yourself further.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
233
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:36:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP stores are an isk sink. How does it worsen inflation, when there's no money coming into the game via LP? Really? your that dumb? Because there's NO item in the LP store that ONLY costs LP right? Yeah I must be dumb, because a sink is where you put money in and none comes out. You put money into the LP store and it turns into a module. So... when does the LP store generate ISK out of thin air? :) You are obviously much smarter than everybody else, so explain it to us. :) Edith reminds you, btw: you're* :) When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters) And how exactly does that contribute to inflation? When does the LP store put ISK into the economy? Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:39:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further.
"isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air? |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
233
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:43:00 -
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*sighs* Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1198
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:44:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP is an isk sink, giving null sec ratters LP is actually a VERy good thing for the game overall, because now a good portion of that 600 to 700 bil per day sov null generates will be sunk into LP. It does seem to suck for high sec navy mission runners however. it may even affect lvl 5 missions. the funniest thing is: FW PvP players will get nerf. Actually FW PvP pays less than FW farming already. And when 0.0 bots and farmers will join LP farming team.....
Just an example: - offensive plex gives 5000-25000 LP for 10-25 minutes - 1 properly PvP fitted frigate gives 100 LP (and it actually can kill you!)
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4411
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:44:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further. "isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?
What has that got to do with isk creation? Those skill books you get for just LP get sold to people who have isk that already exists.
We're talking about isk faucets and sinks, I don't know wtf you are talking about lol.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
233
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:44:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further. "isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air? You're selling it to a player, which means the process doesn't generate ISK. The money only moves and doesn't suddenly appear in the economy. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4411
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:45:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:From dumb to dumber. Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP. It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!
Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks) (based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very. Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?
LP is an isk sink, giving null sec ratters LP is actually a VERy good thing for the game overall, because now a good portion of that 600 to 700 bil per day sov null generates will be sunk into LP. It does seem to suck for high sec navy mission runners however. it may even affect lvl 5 missions. the funniest thing is: FW PvP players will get nerf. Actually FW PvP pays less than FW farming already. And when 0.0 bots and farmers will join LP farming team..... Just an example: - offensive plex gives 5000-25000 LP for 10-25 minutes - 1 properly PvP fitted frigate gives 100 LP (and it actually can kill you!)
What?
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
103
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:45:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further. "isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?
There's no new ISK flowing into the game. The ISK already in the game is just redistributed. |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:45:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further. "isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air? What has that got to do with isk creation? Those skill books you get for just LP get sold to people who have isk that already exists. We're talking about isk faucets and sinks, I don't know wtf you are talking about lol.
you realize, isk faucets and sinks are completely different from inflation right? |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
233
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:46:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further. "isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air? What has that got to do with isk creation? Those skill books you get for just LP get sold to people who have isk that already exists. We're talking about isk faucets and sinks, I don't know wtf you are talking about lol. She lacks full understanding of how the process works. For me it looks like she's mostly running on instincts without engaging deeper analysis. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:52:00 -
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I wonder if there are any estimates on how much this change will nerf lvl 4 and FW LP income value. I'm not too bothered if it does personally but just out of interest. |
Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:53:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote: And how exactly does that contribute to inflation? When does the LP store put ISK into the economy?
Apparently , Big Boobs dampen the ability to understand economics. they sure dampen my abilty to understand most things. Well my boobees certainly help me, economically speaking. Do you like them? ;) HAHAHA I'm derailing a thread, but your talking about pixelated boobs in an ESS discussion thread? |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
30
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:54:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote: I'm derailing a thread
Derailing a thread is against the rules
Imma tell on you |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4413
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:55:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:I wonder if there are any estimates on how much this change will nerf lvl 4 and FW LP income value. I'm not too bothered if it does personally but just out of interest.
I don't see how this has anything to do with FW Lp at all.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
233
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:55:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Guys, stop feeding the derailing troll. She sounds like Ziona. Proved wrong, so now let the personal attacks begin! You called me dumb first, silly. :) I tried educating you, but your negative attitude marks you as a troll not worth the attention. If you really believe you know better, then create a thread in Market Discussions and prove us all wrong.
Good luck, Ziona. :) Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
78
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:56:00 -
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Mah Boobz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mah Boobz wrote:
When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)
Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game. Don't embarrass yourself further. "isk neutral" so they have no isk value? So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air? I'll explain for you. Let's say, for the sake of this example, than the total ammount of isk is 100. I'm downscaling it quite a lot, with nice round numbers to make it easier to grasp.
So, to reiterate, everyone's wallets in game add up to 100 isk. There is also 10 of the same kind of skillbooks, that can be purchased off of the LP store with LP only. Their isk value could be said to be 10:1. Now, if you amass enough LP to buy another 10 of the same kind of skillbooks without using isk, the net value of isk in the game is still 100, but now the net value of the skillbook is 20. Now the ratio looks like 5:1, but you have not generated, created, nor injected isk into the game at all, you just spread it out into a bigger number of items.
That is knowk as ISK neutral, they neither add nor subtract isk from the game.
So the question stands. How does that generate inflation? Quite the opposite tbh, on that particular item anyway. This is as nice as I get. |
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