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Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:16:00 -
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Nerf to dread tracking and target painters, as well as a bunch of other crap changes.
Is this the end to cap exculations? |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:24:00 -
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Nope
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Random Woman
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:54:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Nerf to dread tracking and target painters, as well as a bunch of other crap changes.
Is this the end to cap exculations?
Yes everyone should self destruct at the sun, and biomass right after that. |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:58:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Nerf to dread tracking and target painters, as well as a bunch of other crap changes.
Is this the end to cap exculations?
Please stop playing Eve. No trolling please |
Iyokus Patrouette
End-of-Line
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:05:00 -
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Don't be That guy....
I just like posting after Bane because we look like twins.
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Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:58:00 -
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While yes, these changes are random and dumb, they wont affect escalations noticeably. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:22:00 -
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It's perfectly possible to effectively dread blap with an obscene amount of guns skills, including motion prediction, to IV. The nerf will not be a game killer--they already nerfed capital autocannons by 15%, if memory serves, when they released the Swaglfar. It will just require your target-painting ship pilots and your dreadnought pilots to be better skilled, using drugs, or running with implants.
THAT SAID, I disagree with the changes and I'm voicing my opinion. This change is random and seems to generally unwanted the communities of both null sec and wormholes, in mass, at least of those posting in the forums.
I have liked a lot of changes CCP made, except those to the heavy missiles, but I sincerely do not agree with this move, though, again, I don't think it will be game breaking. Join End-of-Line, -EOL, today, and kill your CEO! (Terms and conditions apply.)
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Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:24:00 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:Don't be That guy....
I just like posting after Bane because we look like twins.
ZOMg, you DO look like twins.
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MadbaM
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:29:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:While yes, these changes are random and dumb, they wont affect escalations noticeably.
there not really random, our last WH CSM asked for this exact change a year ago. I don't agree with the changed or that the problem ever existed but its not a random change.
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Iyokus Patrouette
End-of-Line
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:31:00 -
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Rall Mekin wrote:Iyokus Patrouette wrote:Don't be That guy....
I just like posting after Bane because we look like twins. ZOMg, you DO look like twins. How do I know you really AREN'T Bane, Iyokus? Have we been infiltrated?
No comment. . . I fear the wrath of odd EULA about impersonating people/alts/trees/dogs. . If i say anything in regards to that comment. . . I don't want my eve career to be over yet
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:43:00 -
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My Moros is still sore from the last time CCP raped it +1 |
Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:45:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:My Moros is still sore from the last time CCP raped it
Whahaha lol... !!!! ...
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bubble trout
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:34:00 -
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I don't see a dev blog about this, is there a link or....................? |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:42:00 -
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bubble trout wrote:I don't see a dev blog about this, is there a link or....................?
Here you go, bud. Cap Tracking aaanndd the Target Painter portion. Wormhole Minister of High Society @autoritare | The Diogenes Club |
Borsek
A.A.A Ragnarok.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:38:00 -
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The only thing this nerfs is blapping T3s if jumped, but then again if you didn't die in a fire yet, you may still be able to bring more webs to the field. Change sucks, but whatever. At least my sentries will be even more overpowered after the patch. Mmm, battleship DPS and frig tracking :D |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:56:00 -
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5% reduction in tracking is not a nerf, its minor inconvenience easily compensated. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 11:34:00 -
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actually, i think that is what a nerf means... The point is, it was not needed. +1 |
Aiyshimin
Imperial Collective
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Posted - 2014.01.17 12:35:00 -
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10% tracking buff is a nerf only on EVE Forums, the place where people can neither read or math
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:31:00 -
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This is clearly the work of large null blocks setting the foundation for WH invasions. This change paves the way for large numbers of smaller ships (T3) to pour through the more numerous null > c5/c6 connections and decimate outnumbered wh corporations. If this change comes then it is over. There won't even be a last stand when they come. |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2014.01.17 13:52:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:This is clearly the work of large null blocks setting the foundation for WH invasions. This change paves the way for large numbers of smaller ships (T3) to pour through the more numerous null > c5/c6 connections and decimate outnumbered wh corporations. If this change comes then it is over. There won't even be a last stand when they come.
This would be awesome. I hope null invades
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:20:00 -
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Rall Mekin wrote:It's perfectly possible to effectively dread blap with an obscene amount of guns skills, including motion prediction, to IV. The nerf will not be a game killer--they already nerfed capital autocannons by 15%, if memory serves, when they released the new, two-turret Swaglfar. It will just require your target-painting ship pilots and your dreadnought pilots to be better skilled, using drugs, or running with implants.
Motion prediciton IV isn't "an obscene amount of gun skills." Its the bare f-ing minimum. Level 5 is a requirement for t2 battleship turrets anyway. Anyone who flies a dread regularly should have turret control elite (under the old certificate system), or be very close to it. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
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Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:42:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Rall Mekin wrote:It's perfectly possible to effectively dread blap with an obscene amount of guns skills, including motion prediction, to IV. The nerf will not be a game killer--they already nerfed capital autocannons by 15%, if memory serves, when they released the new, two-turret Swaglfar. It will just require your target-painting ship pilots and your dreadnought pilots to be better skilled, using drugs, or running with implants.
Motion prediciton IV isn't "an obscene amount of gun skills." Its the bare f-ing minimum. Level 5 is a requirement for t2 battleship turrets anyway. Anyone who flies a dread regularly should have turret control elite (under the old certificate system), or be very close to it.
I agree skills to IV aren't "an obscene amount of gun skills." Reread my sentence: "It's perfectly possible to effectively dread blap with an obscene amount of gun skills, including motion prediction, to IV." IE, you can have a lot of gun skills to IV and still dread blap well with target painters and webs. In other words, a low skill pilot can still dread blap effectively, if properly supported, so this nerf won't hurt higher skilled pilots.
I was writing that at work, so it was probably an issue with sentence structure/clarity, as well as you reading quickly. It happens.
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Random Woman
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:48:00 -
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The 5% nerf is changing nothing, you might need more than the one token loki or rapier if you suck at escaltions, but thats about it.
If someone feels like he wont be able to hit anything, well get a super drake, or just pop a standard drop booster.
As for PVP, there is always so many Lokies it hardly matters what tracking a gun has. |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
355
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:09:00 -
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Random Woman wrote:The 5% nerf is changing nothing, you might need more than the one token loki or rapier if you suck at escaltions, but thats about it.
If someone feels like he wont be able to hit anything, well get a super drake, or just pop a standard drop booster.
As for PVP, there is always so many Lokies it hardly matters what tracking a gun has.
Yeah... while I'm not a fan of random and un-needed nerfs, if you're doing capital escalations correctly, the angular velocity isn't really an issue. With 1 or 2 Lokis with triple webs single paint you shouldn't have any issues hitting pretty much any of the battleship escalations as they're moving away to max range. I mean hell, when we're done with escalations we pop the tiny sig cruisers while we wait on siege to end, and they're not much bigger than the womprats I used to bulls-eye with my T16 back home...
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M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
527
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:26:00 -
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Changes are stupid and without reason but they won't screw WHs that badly. How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
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