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Tronjay the'3rd
IGNOTUS AGENDA Cult of War
46
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Posted - 2014.01.19 01:56:00 -
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I was there and must say Kuddos to CFC and RUS for bringing the fight and have the blazzz to jump into this TIDI mess.
Nevertheless this 10 hour fight was one of the most remarkable i ever had
p.s. peeps are still fighting
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interesangt
Artic Drilling Inc.
6
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:26:00 -
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conclusion.. remove caps from game, sad to say this, but there aint no other way.. |
Raylucy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:56:00 -
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dantes inferno wrote: We will laugh when subscription will go down again (already happening anyway...)
if by that you mean less goons playing, then yes, im pretty sure that there will be a lot of people laughing and enjoying that too.
baltec1 wrote:What we got was something nobody wanted or enjoyed. from the looks of it, the other side enjoyed the turkey shoot and the amount of tears that will flood this thread and probably many others. |
Angry Mustache
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:37:00 -
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If this fight did show anything, it's that subcaps are worthless in sov fights. An official Member of the Goonswarm Federation Complaints Department. Were you wronged by a member of our fine space guild? We can get you the compensation you deserve. |
Arboledaw
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:49:00 -
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Totally agree with original post. Eve was not only not fun today, it was downright miserable. I love the game but CCP, step up soon or my patience will likely run out. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2013
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Posted - 2014.01.19 04:11:00 -
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War's over anyway folks.
If the BOTLRD agreement (goon's term, not mine) is legit, then PL just stood down from invading any goon system than goons consider valuable. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Dalilah
Xenobytes Stain Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.01.19 04:16:00 -
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Yesterday I invited my old friend who was very intersted in EVE Online to watch "the biggest capital fight ever". After end of "epic battle in HED-GP" he said "I can't beleive you guys paying money for wasting of your weekend for nothing" and his wish to pay for 2 accounts become a wish to pay for 0 accounts. |
Michael Escoto
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.01.19 04:32:00 -
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I know its hard (for some) but i'd like to get a honest answer from the parties involved in HED-GP:
What was different here, compared to the recent big fleet engagements? Fountain, 6VDT, or even Asakai (iirc, was not reinforced)? |
Eryn Velasquez
55
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff.
We wouldn't need blobs if it wasn't for the huge amounts of HP we need to burn through. Todays fight only happened because the N3/PL capital blob waited around for us.
I personally think, when there is a massive concentration of Caps and Scaps allready waiting, why don't you change the tactics? Get this blob bubbled and capture it where it is, and take care of 4 or 5 other systems. The numbers are on your side, or not? GÇ£A man's freedom consists in his being able to do whatever he wills, but that he should not, by any human power, be forced to do what is against his will.GÇ¥-áGÇò Jean-Jacques Rousseau-á |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
406
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:17:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:Dave Stark wrote:gotta say i'm watching a stream and it basically looks like 4000 pilots afk in bubbles. there's literally nothing visually interesting happening.
how you guys sit and tolerate this **** i'll never know. And the PVP'er keep saying mining is boring Whoa, 10% tidi is bad, but it's still way better than mining. Just for saying that I hope you have to mine in 10% tidi someday.
And you would be able to tell the difference if afk mining? |
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Ivoryman
Silent Service Operations Blanket Men
3
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:21:00 -
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When I caught wind this might be in the makings, I bought a few hundred billions worth of trit, pyer, and mex 36 hours before on the speculation something stupid like this would happen! THANK YOU ALL!! <3 Please, continue! Seriously... round 2? |
Tavian Blake
LOST IDEA C0VEN
0
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:21:00 -
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I totally confirm with the OP... dunno what to add there.
CCP plz make Drones smaller... the Capitals hiding behind them. |
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
196
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:34:00 -
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Ivoryman wrote:When I caught wind this might be in the makings, I bought a few hundred billions worth of trit, pyer, and mex 36 hours before on the speculation something stupid like this would happen! THANK YOU ALL!! <3 Please, continue! Seriously... round 2?
I know right? To think that some of the ammo I produce might be involved...and that demand might pick up a bit to cover all that was spent, even .001%, brings a small flutter to my heart I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service. |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
411
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:40:00 -
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Why you people engage in activities like this that are not fun for anyone involved is completely beyond me. And not just once, but regularly.
I made a point of staying the hell out of Null until sov was properly fixed. That was 3 years ago. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4151
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:48:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Too many caps, too many caps on all sides.
infinitely respawning resources
Get rid of that and cap fleets become quit a cherished thing
and battles such as these would be followed by battles over the salvage |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1470
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:03:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time No I is timers. Pre-timer and Pre-Cap we did really well finding each other and having fleet fights.
They were not 1000 vs 1000 because
a) there were not enough subscriptions for that
b) most important, they were not planned 24 hours ahead so that everyone could pile on with prior knowledge something was happening.
The majority of EvE pvp needs to be unplanned, natural. If spies do their job there will be big laggy battles where you disconnect and can't log back in so it still needs a fix but medium sized battles should be fun at least.
I was in HED prior to CFC arriving, at 1.5k it was not bad at all. At 3.9k it was at 1 frame every 30 seconds before my brand new high end PC locked up and I was unable to log back in.
timers suck. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9883
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:18:00 -
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Nooodlzs wrote:
Maybe if you jumped your caps in before 1500 subcaps they would have loaded grid, or was it a strategic ploy to once again moan about capitals.
It was terrible FC decision on CFC side that lost you those dreads blaming it on anything else is idiotic.
There was a mobile jammer. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9883
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:20:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time No it is timers, at least in large part. Pre-timer and Pre-Cap we did really well finding each other and having fleet fights. They were not 1000 vs 1000 because a) there were not enough subscriptions for that b) most important, they were not planned 24 hours ahead so that everyone could pile on with prior knowledge something was happening. The majority of EvE pvp needs to be unplanned, natural. If spies do their job there will be big laggy battles where you disconnect and can't log back in so it still needs a fix but medium sized battles should be fun at least. I was in HED prior to CFC arriving, at 1.5k it was not bad at all. At 3.9k it was at 1 frame every 30 seconds before my brand new high end PC locked up and I was unable to log back in. timers suck.
Timers are the only thing that allow you to hold space and defend it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1047
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:23:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Why you people engage in activities like this that are not fun for anyone involved is completely beyond me. And not just once, but regularly.
I made a point of staying the hell out of Null until sov was properly fixed. That was 3 years ago.
Everyone will show up for a significant fight, if they care about their space. Even knowing that you'll spend 8 hours on a 30 min fight. And living in Null beats the heck out of Highsec, or low these days. That being said, it seems like CCP has bugged the code worse than ever, this fight reminded me of Y-2, where PL Titans jumped in late and died where they stood, never loaded.
I foolishly jumped in late and spent 3 hours in the warp tunnel before I saw local chat, grid never loaded. I had to log three times and reboot my computer before I finally got in, 5.5 hours after I jumped. My Nyx was on grid for over two hours before i was actually able to pilot it....
CCP needs to shelf the fluff and garbage and do some serious work on the code before this simply gets to be too much for some people...
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1470
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:24:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time No it is timers, at least in large part. Pre-timer and Pre-Cap we did really well finding each other and having fleet fights. They were not 1000 vs 1000 because a) there were not enough subscriptions for that b) most important, they were not planned 24 hours ahead so that everyone could pile on with prior knowledge something was happening. The majority of EvE pvp needs to be unplanned, natural. If spies do their job there will be big laggy battles where you disconnect and can't log back in so it still needs a fix but medium sized battles should be fun at least. I was in HED prior to CFC arriving, at 1.5k it was not bad at all. At 3.9k it was at 1 frame every 30 seconds before my brand new high end PC locked up and I was unable to log back in. timers suck. Timers are the only thing that allow you to hold space and defend it. Really, so how did Curse alliance and Stain alliance and all the other alliances hold their space for so long in the pre-timer era. I was in Stain Alliance back in the day and can confirm there was space holding and wars between space holding alliances with timers. |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9883
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:34:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Really, so how did Curse alliance and Stain alliance and all the other alliances hold their space for so long in the pre-timer era. I was in Stain Alliance back in the day and can confirm there was space holding and wars between space holding alliances without timers.
There was a fraction of the people back then.
Today we have capital blobs that can grind down 100+ systems in as little as a single weekend. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:36:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:Blue standings vs another corp/Alliance should cost isk. More blues = more tax.
Thats all im saying, think about it.
Stupid. We've been over this since the dawn of time, any sort of artificially limiting system on alliance size or blue lists will be circumvented by players. The CFC for example, let's say standings didn't exist. Turn on alliance column in overview, do not shoot any of the ~10 alliances in the CFC. Wow, that was hard. |
Beautiful Frelcia
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:43:00 -
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CCP to keep you motivated I have un-subbed my 2 accounts and will comeback ONLY when OP issues are resolved.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1470
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Really, so how did Curse alliance and Stain alliance and all the other alliances hold their space for so long in the pre-timer era. I was in Stain Alliance back in the day and can confirm there was space holding and wars between space holding alliances without timers.
There was a fraction of the people back then. Today we have capital blobs that can grind down 100+ systems in as little as a single weekend. There was also a fraction of the server performance too. There were no structures to grind back then but still there was space holding and space defending. What does that mean?
I think it means the emphasis from 'ownership' being a 'we live here and we'll kill you if you enter' to "we dropped an npc module with 10 million hp that says we own this and if you shoot it it'll become invulnerable giving us time to bring our entire coalition tomorrow" was a bad idea.
Perhaps fixing sov is just removing sov.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
939
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:48:00 -
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Beautiful Frelcia wrote:CCP to keep you motivated I have un-subbed my 2 accounts and will comeback ONLY when OP issues are resolved.
Can I have your stuff then? Because you will never see the issues 'resolved' since you will just pile larger blobs on till the node reaches the same point, no matter how CCP has upgraded their servers this has held true. |
Honest Blob
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.01.19 07:26:00 -
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Before all you tards in CFC start qqing about jump in lag or spending hours in a cyno tunnel, maby your coalitions should have been smarter, you know like staging the dreads in system in the STATION YOU CAN DOCK IN before the fight and used those 1000 domis to establish station control to assist on the undock. But hurdur that would require thinking. Cant have that now can we, Oops its ccp's fault. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1185
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Posted - 2014.01.19 07:38:00 -
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Beautiful Frelcia wrote:CCP to keep you motivated I have un-subbed my 2 accounts and will comeback ONLY when OP issues are resolved.
2 less goons in the game?
PERFECT The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Roxie Glitz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.01.19 07:39:00 -
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Who of the CSM Team is capable of solving those problems together with ccp? I think several nullsec people are in csm right now, we should talk to them |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
102
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Posted - 2014.01.19 07:39:00 -
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Rekkr Nordgard wrote:Nicemeries wrote:Did CCP even make a statement about this huge failure? Even now, emails are being sent out to make sure that all CCP employees know that they are to pretend that this fight never happened. Well, it didn't, did it? |
Michael Escoto
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.01.19 08:00:00 -
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Honest Blob wrote:Before all you tards in CFC start qqing about jump in lag or spending hours in a cyno tunnel, maby your coalitions should have been smarter, you know like staging the dreads in system in the STATION YOU CAN DOCK IN before the fight and used those 1000 domis to establish station control to assist on the undock. But hurdur that would require thinking. Cant have that now can we, Oops its ccp's fault.
But you can't refute that there IS a problem with getting in, right? Just drop politics/agendas for a moment.. |
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