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Karma Codolle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:12:00 -
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I've been running solely distribution missions to build standings quickly, my toon has killed 0 rats or any ships since i created them.
Yet my standings with certain pirate factions and empire factions are now terrible.
I'm confused I remember standings only dropping when you did kill missions, which if those were avoided you could build standings without hurting other standings.
Did that change? I haven't done missions in about a year so not sure if it was something i missed or whats going on here.
Is there no way to have high positive standings with all 4 factions now? |
Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
193
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:28:00 -
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any faction change is going to have an effect on other factions due to their standings with each other. |
Karma Codolle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:37:00 -
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I figured a minor change, but the extent it changed seems excessive for not doing a single kill mission
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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
69
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:18:00 -
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As long as it's not with the 4 major factions I'm not seeing the issue. Are you planning on heading into NPC pirate space for that sweet sweet LP store? |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1325
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Posted - 2014.01.21 15:03:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:any faction change is going to have an effect on other factions due to their standings with each other.
This is incorrect. Epic arc missions give a large standings boost towards a faction without having any derived standings changes to other factions. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Qalix
Long Jump.
37
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:38:00 -
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All storyline missions result in derived standings for friendly and hostile factions. It is also possible for a storyline mission to be against specific factions, which gives a larger standings hit than just the derived standings hits.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships |
Karma Codolle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:04:00 -
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ya ive been getting a large hit with both pirate and empire. I've been avoiding storylines with kill missions which is why i wasn't expecting a loss this severe
base standings now with caldari are 6.72 sansha -6.35 and gallente are -4.42
Just seems a bit high for not killing a single ship IMO |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1338
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:15:00 -
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Karma Codolle wrote:ya ive been getting a large hit with both pirate and empire. I've been avoiding storylines with kill missions which is why i wasn't expecting a loss this severe
base standings now with caldari are 6.72 sansha -6.35 and gallente are -4.42
Just seems a bit high for not killing a single ship IMO
1) stop caring about low standings vs pirate factions 2) right click -> show transactions on your gallente faction standings to see what (in the last few months) caused them to go so low. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
thowlimer
Roprocor Ltd
13
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:23:00 -
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Open the info on caldari faction(the tab which shows negative standing with) open a second window on caldari faction showing your standing history
Each time you get a standing increase with caldari faction you will get a decrease towards _all_ the other factions listed with negative standing each standing will approach the nr listed in the standing list, standing increase is added as fraction of remaindeer up to that nr, the faction you run for counts as 10. So in that second window you opened for each increase other factions will be hit with X/10(X= their standing with caldari) times the increase. The same goes for positive standings as well so you should see your amarr standing rise a fair bit.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
19983
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:56:00 -
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Karma Codolle wrote:I've been running solely distribution missions to build standings quickly, my toon has killed 0 rats or any ships since i created them.
Yet my standings with certain pirate factions and empire factions are now terrible.
I'm confused I remember standings only dropping when you did kill missions, which if those were avoided you could build standings without hurting other standings.
Did that change? I haven't done missions in about a year so not sure if it was something i missed or whats going on here.
Is there no way to have high positive standings with all 4 factions now? You can easily have positive standing with all Empire Factions, or with all Pirate Factions. Maybe even have positive standings with both.
The answer to your question is 'The Plan'.
Now to clear up a few things :
Working the Epic Arcs will incur some negative standing hits for ship kill and aggression. Those hits are small when compared to the amount of positive standing gained for completing the arcs.
When you gain Faction standing with one set of allied Factions, the enemy Factions will incur negative standing hits.
You can cross reference the changes with the time stamp listed in the Character sheet - 'Standings' section - 'Liked by' & 'Disliked by' Tabs. Note that only the main positive standing gain will list the mission name, all other derived standing changes will only have the time stamp.
Hope this info helps and good luck to you.
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Qalix
Long Jump.
40
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Posted - 2014.01.22 04:14:00 -
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I can confirm that all of the various ship aggression/kill standings hits in the epic arcs are in the .06% and lower range for most missions. But there are some bigger hits elsewhere. There is a 3% to Ammatar Mandate hit in the Minnie epic arc for example. |
Karma Codolle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.01.23 08:54:00 -
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Thanks for all the info everyone, learned a few new things and answered my question
Thanks again |
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