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Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:01:00 -
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I've seen a few fittings in my day, and most seem pretty vanilla and without any sort of interesting or unpredictable flair.
Does anyone specialize in flying ships with unpredictable fittings?
How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? What would the pros and cons be of this kind of gang PvP?
Discuss. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
86
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:03:00 -
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Considering the game is based around specializing, I dare to say not effective at all, when facing specialized counterparts.
/discussion. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
244
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:08:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:Considering the game is based around specializing, I dare to say not effective at all, when facing specialized counterparts.
/discussion. You're just a victim. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:08:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote: /discussion.
I'm glad everyone knows the discussion is over now. Where is ISD or a Dev? We should lock this thread down now guys, Erufen Rito has given his opinion and that means that the discussion is over. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
TharOkha
0asis Group
778
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:09:00 -
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well i attended several weird fleets like laser fitted ventures doctrine, mining ships revenge or noob ships rage ops. Our enemy was like "WTF? 0.o" underestimated us and latr they died.
Fun as hell. unpredictable situations with unpredictable fleets with weird fits is what makes this game so great :) . |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
244
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:10:00 -
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Silent Rambo wrote:I've seen a few fittings in my day, and most seem pretty vanilla and without any sort of interesting or unpredictable flair.
Does anyone specialize in flying ships with unpredictable fittings?
How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? What would the pros and cons be of this kind of gang PvP?
Discuss. 99% of the people out there use generic fittings and can not think for themselves. What kind of responses do you expect from GD, then ?
Edit: Especially GD. Should move this to Ships&Fittings. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:15:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Silent Rambo wrote:I've seen a few fittings in my day, and most seem pretty vanilla and without any sort of interesting or unpredictable flair.
Does anyone specialize in flying ships with unpredictable fittings?
How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? What would the pros and cons be of this kind of gang PvP?
Discuss. 99% of the people out there use generic fittings and can not think for themselves. What kind of responses do you expect from GD, then ? Edit: Especially GD. Should move this to Ships&Fittings.
I was looking for more of a general discussion about the pros and cons of unpredictability in PvP. Seems pretty GD to me You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
244
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:18:00 -
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Silent Rambo wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Silent Rambo wrote:I've seen a few fittings in my day, and most seem pretty vanilla and without any sort of interesting or unpredictable flair.
Does anyone specialize in flying ships with unpredictable fittings?
How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? What would the pros and cons be of this kind of gang PvP?
Discuss. 99% of the people out there use generic fittings and can not think for themselves. What kind of responses do you expect from GD, then ? Edit: Especially GD. Should move this to Ships&Fittings. I was looking for more of a general discussion about the pros and cons of unpredictability in PvP. Seems pretty GD to me Good luck with these people ... Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18988
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:18:00 -
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Silent Rambo wrote:How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? The common term is GÇ£comedy killmailGÇ¥.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Silent Rambo wrote:How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? The common term is GÇ£comedy killmailGÇ¥.
Not fitting a ship the way everyone else EXPECTS you too is one thing, plain fitting it poorly for laughs or because you bad at EvE is another. The latter is more the "comedy killmail" and ALOD category.
You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
181
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:26:00 -
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I have been trying to convince a few ppl to get a Battle Nereus gang together for a losec roam instead of the same old same old. Half a dozen Nereus ganking is a lot of neut and EWAR and Warrior IIs.
It would make for hilarious kill-mails if you managed to knock off an unsuspecting solo T2 or T3.
"Lost my tengu again." "How?" "Another one of those OP Nereus PvP gangs." |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.01.21 22:56:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:I have been trying to convince a few ppl to get a Battle Nereus gang together for a losec roam instead of the same old same old. Half a dozen Nereus ganking is a lot of neut and EWAR and Warrior IIs.
It would make for hilarious kill-mails if you managed to knock off an unsuspecting solo T2 or T3.
"Lost my tengu again." "How?" "Another one of those OP Nereus PvP gangs."
I'm in. Ill bring a badger though.
I feel EWar can make a "poorly" fit ship pretty damn amazing. Also tanking seems rather unnecessary with enough hilarious amounts of EWar. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Space Hobos Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:00:00 -
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I used to run a small high sec merc corp and we were mainly armor. This newbro wanted in but could only fly Caldari ships so we came up with a 1600 plate RLML Caracal and filled the mids with webs and target painters.
Obviously this was before the RLML change, but it actually did surprisingly well. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
Paranoid Loyd
331
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:04:00 -
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Battle Badger doesn't give a **** "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:10:00 -
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I actually think post-patch the Nereus is the better battle indy. For losec work you can run a LSE, MWD, cloak if you want and if your going defensive even squeeze in warp stabs all the while packing 6 x Warrior II/EWAR drones .
All the while only costing a couple of mill when you do lose the occasional one. |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:31:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:I used to run a small high sec merc corp and we were mainly armor. This newbro wanted in but could only fly Caldari ships so we came up with a 1600 plate RLML Caracal and filled the mids with webs and target painters.
Obviously this was before the RLML change, but it actually did surprisingly well.
I've played around with EFT quite a bit and you can do surprising things when you think outside the box. Switch from a standard tank here, or adding some Ewar there, you can get make some pretty interesting fits that are far from something one would expect.
You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8733
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:45:00 -
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I (flying a Thrasher with 200mm Autocannon IIs) once died to a guy in a Talos with 200mm Autocannon IIs. My EVE Videos |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:48:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I (flying a Thrasher with 200mm Autocannon IIs) once died to a guy in a Talos with 200mm Autocannon IIs.
Wow I have 200mm Autocannon IIs in my Claw and in my Wolf ... small world. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2882
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Posted - 2014.01.22 01:16:00 -
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Silent Rambo wrote:I've seen a few fittings in my day, and most seem pretty vanilla and without any sort of interesting or unpredictable flair.
Does anyone specialize in flying ships with unpredictable fittings?
How successful would a small roaming gang of "crazy", "unfocused", or "crazy-unfocused" ships be, flow by competent organized pilots? What would the pros and cons be of this kind of gang PvP?
Discuss. PvPers with too many skill points and time on their hands usually do this. However, it's quite hard to do with gangs, because "crazy" gang setups generally have gaping vulnerabilities, or they wouldn't be "crazy". You'll mostly find weird stuff with solo pilots. If a setup like that consistently performs well and gains fame, it may even make it into the metagame.
Some examples from my own history:
- Solo lowsec Apocalypse - actually managed to kill more than it costed me, somehow.
- Brawling TD Malediction (and other assorted TD stuff) - Used to be rare and only flown by niche pilots, but is now super common.
- Any kind of Raptor
- Solo Maller
- Kiting laser Myrmidon
- Many more
Most times you try to do this, you end up with something either completely inoperable, or very ineffective. When it does work and you get something that both works and is reliable, you start having loads of fun, and people conclude that you're a space wizard.
Overall, it requires lots of skill points (to fit the weirdest things possible), personal skill and experience, and being okay with failing over and over. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
695
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Posted - 2014.01.22 01:52:00 -
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Sentry arty alpha myrmadons. Its the future. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2882
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:34:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Sentry arty alpha myrmadons. Its the future. ... huh. I am intrigued. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
739
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Posted - 2014.01.22 04:19:00 -
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One word. Gnosis.
Wait, two more words. Mobile Depot.
mmmmmm Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
859
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Posted - 2014.01.22 06:27:00 -
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Tbh.. I have yet to figure out a gnosis fit that is in any sense of the word 'good', somewhat decent, yes, but compared to any other ship, whatever I fit, the specific T1 ship wins.
Oh and yes, silly fits are fun... while mining in lowsec in my venture, I was almost killed by another venture that was sporting blasters, luckily I had ECM on board and managed to jam him before he killed me, and escaped with 31% hull left.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2882
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Posted - 2014.01.22 07:27:00 -
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Xearal wrote:Tbh.. I have yet to figure out a gnosis fit that is in any sense of the word 'good', somewhat decent, yes, but compared to any other ship, whatever I fit, the specific T1 ship wins.
Oh and yes, silly fits are fun... while mining in lowsec in my venture, I was almost killed by another venture that was sporting blasters, luckily I had ECM on board and managed to jam him before he killed me, and escaped with 31% hull left.
If you fit up a Gnosis for cargo, you can get 5880 m3 space out of it. I want to fit up one of those as a frigate gang "support" ship, to carry frigates for refitting while still being able to participate in some combat. Like this:
Quote:[Gnosis, APC]
Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M [Empty High slot]
Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5
Everyone in my corp says it's a shitfit, but I know better. *shakes walking stick at corp members* Whippersnappers! Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1313
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Posted - 2014.01.22 07:35:00 -
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Xearal wrote:Oh and yes, silly fits are fun... while mining in lowsec in my venture, I was almost killed by another venture that was sporting blasters, luckily I had ECM on board and managed to jam him before he killed me, and escaped with 31% hull left.
Hmm, that wasn't within past 2 weeks in Adirain by any chance, was it? :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
26
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Posted - 2014.01.22 07:47:00 -
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Male Exotic Dancers in Cargo Hold.
The Element of Surprise. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
Rhatar Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
488
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Posted - 2014.01.22 09:33:00 -
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Pretty much every ship i fly is an "unexpected fitting" prolly why i die so often |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
867
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Posted - 2014.01.22 09:54:00 -
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I remember weapon layots like that from the Maelstrom...
Was on ym first cruiser ever: "ok, something for long range, something for short range, and just one missile launchers for frigattes... Yeah, that should do it."
Half an hour later I fit a new cruiser with lots and lots of long range weapons thinking "Screw'em, Imma gonna blast them from over here!" Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
634
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Posted - 2014.01.22 12:17:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:Considering the game is based around specializing, I dare to say not effective at all, when facing specialized counterparts.
/discussion.
Try fitting a mining barge with tank bonuses with drone damage amps and jump gates in low sec. amazing how many kills mining barges can get. They also make amazing bait. I have also read stories of entire mining fleets sitting in low sec belts but actually combat fit. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
257
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Posted - 2014.01.22 12:37:00 -
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Reminds me.... I once saw a fitting of a large shield extended thrasher with 125mm turrets and according to EFT it works! Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
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