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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:44:00 -
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I have 3 miners which generated about 100m to 300m in mined asteroid so far.
I would put the total value of their work at no more than under a billion so far.
That does include very high costs to generate such revenue.
I don't believe it is a viable option given the cost.
I'd made more money investing in Rorqual and other mining related ventures.
(I also mined in Ventures btw, even in 0.5 with 3 or more ventures, + Scout drones, and lost Ventures. Not worth much either.)
I started to do Ice mining which may be worth more since I can produce Jump fuel.
I have yet to verify the cost of buying the jump fuel and compare it to producing it.
I have another for an Orca and bought a Mining Foreman Mindlink. I transferred it to my Orca pilot although I didn't plug it in yet.
I then realised the Orca also needed support for security reasons.
The higher value of the implants , training and Orca value increase it's target value. It is more likely that pirate will attack it when spotted or it's relative region/system location found. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3113
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:54:00 -
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Erm... well... good for you? [There isn't a question, or obvious line of discussion in your post, that I can find at least.] |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:26:00 -
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No, it's in the title: Mining Ventures and other Capital.
However, I was able to take screenshots.
I also got destroyed in a Barge at a critical point.
I also have more notes on the exact income and high yield Kernite mining.
My next step is to defeat the null sec rats to increase my profits related to expenditures. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
494
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:34:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:Kernite mining.
Found your problem.
Free Ripley Weaver! |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1370
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:14:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:The higher value of the implants , training and Orca value increase it's target value. It is more likely that pirate will attack it when spotted or it's relative region/system location found.
Pirates cannot magically determine a pilots implants or skillpoints. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
153
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:49:00 -
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I eve on computer machine, miner 5 time and orca 1 times.
Implant in orca but better yield plugged into pilot orca.
Not many isk in hours but music listen or enjoy pornographic while mine and market update orders many.
Ice not many isk hours really. Disappear ice 4 hour and jump many system waiting 4 hours bad.
Much mission make isk conversion of points in loyalty store or quitrage eve dying not safe highec evil pirate! I've done some really stupid **** in this game. |
Anders Madeveda
Sturmgrenadier Inc
7
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Posted - 2014.01.24 07:48:00 -
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Ave Kathrina wrote:I eve on computer machine, miner 5 time and orca 1 times.
Implant in orca but better yield plugged into pilot orca.
Not many isk in hours but music listen or enjoy pornographic while mine and market update orders many.
Ice not many isk hours really. Disappear ice 4 hour and jump many system waiting 4 hours bad.
Much mission make isk conversion of points in loyalty store or quitrage eve dying not safe highec evil pirate!
You've broken the code! |
Raynedrops Skye
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.01.24 08:41:00 -
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OP: Your avatar looks like a rockabilly version of Leonard McCoy.
Sorry for OT, but what exactly is the topic anyway? |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
139
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Posted - 2014.01.24 11:58:00 -
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Raynedrops Skye wrote:OP: Your avatar looks like a rockabilly version of Leonard McCoy.
More Psychobilly than Rockabilly :D
OP: You have to either factor in the cost of losses of barges etc into your calcs or tank them up some and sacrifice a bit of yield. Keep the orca off grid in a safe spot and be ready to defend it.
Consider looking at other uses for the raw mineral/ice products too. If you pick the correct products to manufacture they act as a profit multiplier on your raw materials.
Hi-Sec mining is never going to be massively profitable but I personally still find it useful for ram materials to manufacture from |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
642
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:02:00 -
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Ave Kathrina wrote:I eve on computer machine, miner 5 time and orca 1 times.
Implant in orca but better yield plugged into pilot orca.
Not many isk in hours but music listen or enjoy pornographic while mine and market update orders many.
Ice not many isk hours really. Disappear ice 4 hour and jump many system waiting 4 hours bad.
Much mission make isk conversion of points in loyalty store or quitrage eve dying not safe highec evil pirate!
MD needs your services as until now no one has been found who speaks his language. He has a fair few posts their that require translation. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:34:00 -
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mmhhh...
Soldarius, The high yield Kernite mining was obviously the best part not the problem.
Nevertheless, you may try or want to use my Opportunity as a weakness or HVT to attack me or justify such activities.
It wasn't the case as I was attacked by rats against my Ventures which couldn't defend against them.
2 drones per Ventures x3 wasn't always enough to save them all, and at 4 Ventures, the Multi clients is stalled.
Batelle, The pirates that attacked me caught me while trying to bring a barge back to a Trade Hub in null sec.
The reasons I tried to do that was to get some Ice Harvester.
It would have been impossible to do it that way.
I'd have had to use a scout ship to carry the Ice harvesters to the target system from the trade station.
I got trapped in a bubble and the tank only lasts less than 30 seconds versus higher dps ships.
I was offered 30m or 300m ISK per hour mining with Orca or 500m per hour ratting but it seems like an authorization for an income limit.
Ave Kathrina, I never made even 2m per hour yet. Although Kernite was the highest value Ore so far. The Ice is worth less than that except for Jump Bridge or other fuel value.
Raynedrops Skye, what do you mean by OT in: "Sorry for OT, but what exactly is the topic anyway?" ?
The topic is in the title, part of the EVE Gameplay Center >> Science & Industry Forum channel.
Corraidhin Farsaidh, I already do include the following factors in my calculations: (1) The cost of losses of barges and (2) the cost of tanking them up and sacrifice a bit of yield. The Orca will be bubbled in null sec after testing it in hi sec with BS.
The other use for Minerals/Ice is for sale but I do not Manufacture/Research. I did, in tutorial but there is my last profession persona. I may never do it.
As for the language part, her sec status is now 5.0. idk if it's corp related or the translator is acting.
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1850
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:12:00 -
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*looks around*
OK... wtf is this thread about?!?!?? "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
141
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:01:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:*looks around*
OK... wtf is this thread about?!?!??
Search me...no really, please do...
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Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2014.01.25 13:03:00 -
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There's a big scam coming with this guy. He's been posting random-type **** in every forum from S&I to Crime & Punishment to Market Discussions and everywhere else in between. He posted one video link in a thread where he claimed to have problems running a Wallet/Market application, and the video showed him having no problems at all. He has an accent but doesn't sound like a complete spaz.
In every one of his threads there are people who end up asking, "WTF are you talking about?"
Either (as someone in another thread said) the face of autism, or an elaborate scam in the making. His threads in Market Discussion are priceless. The best part is when he thinks people are misunderstanding his nonsense, and he copies verbatim dictionary definitions of English words into his posts. |
Toalk
penguins are your nefarious end Serenitas Solutus
2
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Posted - 2014.01.25 21:24:00 -
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was there a question in here? or just something to confuse the forums with?
If option 2, well done. This is my main |
Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
66
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Posted - 2014.01.26 13:33:00 -
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His use of English is better than my ability to write in whatever his native tongue may be. |
Mishtkrah
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.01.26 23:48:00 -
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This is brilliantly bizarre. I vote C! Must be, surely? |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2014.01.27 11:29:00 -
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I give a lot of credit to people who use English as a second language effectively. Many of them can communicate in English much better than I can in their native language. The difference is those people can make themselves understood. They can get their point across. This person is different. His spelling, capitalization and punctuation are almost perfect, and yet he rarely makes a coherent point, mainly because a lot of words he uses don't mean what he thinks they mean. There's more than one post from him where he will, in response to someone wondering what he's talking about, post literal definitions of common English words copypasta straight from a dictionary. It's weird.
"My negotiations will alter the collateral of my effort. Unless my time is affected next week by the value."
That's not an exact quote from him, but that's the way he writes: it leaves you scratching your head saying, "Huh? Say what?" I just think it's more than a simple language barrier issue. I can understand people speaking French better than I can understand him trying to communicate in English. And my French isn't too good. Personally I've got nothing against the guy, but there's something there that's just a wee bit off. It's the near perfect spelling and grammar that lead me to believe it might all be an elaborate troll (or scam in the making). Maybe I'm wrong. |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.01.27 19:57:00 -
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For the second time: The topic is in the title, part of the EVE Gameplay Center >> Science & Industry Forum channel. Mining Ventures and other Capital.
2. I still don't have time to reply. I will likely find more data about mining and industry though.
In fact , I will most likely specialize in solo play rather than wasting my time specializing in natural languages... I already don't have enough time as it is which is already forcing me to be more limited to solo play. I prefer group play and I'm better at it but I can't due to time restraint.
The same for my posts.
I will most likely transfer everything to external site I own. Since I was attacked many times on other subjects, it will allow me to control more what I post. I also register copyright, and that also is being attacked. Even acts of real piracy occurs.
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Mishtkrah
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:42:00 -
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Eve mail received.
Quote: I'm getting married, obviously not because of autism.
I take your comment as an attack against my family not as a personal attack against myself only. It has also been initiated in that thread by Swidgen.
He also refers the source of his attacks against me as from reading : S&I to Crime & Punishment to Market Discussions...
Swidgen, you hurt his feelings!
Elaborate troll. Final answer.
GG Oiras Isimazu |
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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.27 21:25:00 -
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Mishtkrah wrote:Eve mail received. Swidgen, you hurt his feelings! Elaborate troll. Final answer. GG Oiras Isimazu There are reasons private EVE mail are not published in the forums... What does your post contribute to the thread on Mining Ventures and other Capital?
(Including billions of ingame ISK in Ore Mining Capital ships costs and learning requirements.)
2nd edit: It looks like it just makes it harder for me to concentrate on getting more accurate readings on my Mining Ventures. I learned to be more cautious and increase the amount of security even related to posting.
Btw, there is no way 30m mining income would compete to a 500m income from ratting in a complexe. If I run more than 3 miners I risk loosing one or more. The lag alone caused by the 4th active miner can result in a target being destroyed without possible response.
30m x 3 would equal 90m per hour, if that is the case, which I will doubt until proven otherwise. 90m is still 5 times less than 500m in hour which still has to be proven as well.
21:34 edit: Anyone caught the New Player Training: Mining & Gas harves(ting) at 18:00 training today for 1 hour?
It ended around 1.5 hours ago. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
806
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Posted - 2014.01.27 22:15:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on the (indeed somewhat vague) topic and above all civil!
The rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Anhenka
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
109
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Posted - 2014.01.28 04:05:00 -
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ISD Ez, if you had any issues with trolling than you should just flatup locked this thread, it's traveling about as fast as a cross country see-saw.
OP, I for one advocate wombatting your venture via PERL insurance, it should keep rouge pirates off your back. In the unlikely event Wombatting does not work, fit small remote hull repairs so you can tank incoming damage from pirate. Or offer to sing on their TS in exchange for them not ventriculating you up.
Or you could seek the advice of the section of the playerbase that speaks your native language, because the English speaking portion is completely baffled by this thread. |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
285
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Posted - 2014.01.28 04:26:00 -
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Stop mining in ventures.
Get Mining barges.
Tank the **** out of your ships and stop getting blown up.
Ventures are for: noobs, gas harvesting in low and WH. Bonus: Combat Ventures are funny!
Get better drone skills! T2 drones with L4 support skills should handle np in a 0.5 if your ventures were tanked. |
Raynedrops Skye
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:30:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:For the second time: The topic is in the title, part of the EVE Gameplay Center >> Science & Industry Forum channel. Mining Ventures and other Capital.
Yes, I think everyone has grasped that by now. But having a topic is not enough: you need to elaborate on it. All you've given us so far is a background (alhough worded somewhat cryptically) and nothing else. No questions, no suggestions, no rant etc. etc. I think this is what causes the confusion and snide remarks.
So, if there is anything you want, spit it out, and don't expect people to be able to read your mind just because "the topic says it all". Because, quite frankly, it doesn't. Not by far.
Fly safe. |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
118
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:09:00 -
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Raynedrops Skye wrote:No questions, no suggestions, no rant etc. etc. I think this is what causes the confusion and snide remarks.
There is no question about my thread on Mining Ventures and other Capital (investment of business capital). There is no specific suggestions about my thread on Mining Ventures and other Capital (investment of business capital). And I sure didn't post this thread on Mining Ventures and other Capital to be generating rant. To do so would be against the forums rules.
The other Capital part also has to do with an Orca.
The fact that my Ventures died due to lag would make little difference if they were with T2 drones. They could still die due to lag. |
Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:56:00 -
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I'd like to be able to contribute to this thread given that I am a dedicated miner, but I'm having trouble figuring out what exactly it is that you are asking about.. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2669
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:23:00 -
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I think he's just telling us he mines.
Well done.
/thread The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Wulfgar WarHammer
Unrustled
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 15:35:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:The fact that my Ventures died due to lag would make little difference if they were with T2 drones. They could still die due to lag.
I find it cute when people suck at video games, and then blame it on 'lag'
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4387
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:16:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Oiras Isimazu wrote:The higher value of the implants , training and Orca value increase it's target value. It is more likely that pirate will attack it when spotted or it's relative region/system location found. Pirates cannot magically determine a pilots implants or skillpoints.
Unless the pilot is autopiloting a shuttle, pod, freighter, or jumpfreighter.
Some New Order Knights have a chart of ship speeds. Above certain numbers, the odds of expensive implants increase. Character age is also factored in.
When I was told this, my mind was blown... brilliant! See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
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