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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 01:59:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Vigdis Thorisdottir wrote:... Play and pay attention to your game and it's easy to not get ganked. Mining too boring to justify your attention? Then maybe that means it's a good time to try X-ing up when I'm trying to form a combat fleet.
/rant I can't mine with 100% attention and I do most of my mining in worm holes. The best I can do is semi-AFK, where I have two screens, I read on one, click D-scan on the other and glance across from time to time.
What if mining were something like the old asteroids game, where you used your mining lasers to blow the crap out of asteroids until they're in small enough pieces to scoop up into your mining ship's gaping maw by actively flying it to do so? zapzapzap! omnomnom!
Mining becomes an active-piloting activity involving real player skill. Miners pay attention and get ganked less. It becomes way harder to multibox efficiently, so mineral prices rise, capitals become expensive again, people actually care about T1 hull prices. A low denomination Interbus postage stamp is issued with my face on it.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 02:49:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:... Mining while aligned ... is easy, and reduces the risk of mining to almost zero. All you need is two well placed bookmarks to ... In this case, we mean, where I just sit next to a rock, while being aligned to one point, such as POS, while not moving. This helps cut only the align time out of warping away.
No it doesn't.
Seriously, don't get me started on this, I'm just asking you nicely, as a personal favour, not to repeat the myth that stationary alignment makes any difference whatsoever to warp-out time. I don't mind if you keep doing it - it's your ship - but please don't tell others to. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:05:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:... If the ganker has a good warpin that still isn't always enough time to get out. Using two bookmarks and aligning back and forth between them at 75% top speed is the best way to be assured of getting out before you can be killed.
That is a lot of back and forth when you only have one asteroid in a grav site. I don't think you are understanding how it works. You create one bookmark 175k or more away from your asteroid then create another bookmark 175k or more away from the other side of your asteroid. Then you warp to your asteroid and start mining while aligning to and flying towards one of your waypoints at 75% speed. Before you get out of the mining laser range you align and fly towards the other waypoint at 75% speed. Exhumer top speeds are pretty slow so you'll have plenty of time in between having to turn around and if a ganker warps in you just warp to whichever bookmark you are aligning to and you instantly warp before the ganker can even lock you.
Pro-tip - don't warp to your bookmark at 0, because you never know who might be waiting there... Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:08:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:... Exhumer top speeds are pretty slow so you'll have plenty of time in between having to turn around and if a ganker warps in you just warp to whichever bookmark you are aligning to and you instantly warp before the ganker can even lock you. Thanks. Now why are you being helpful for a change? *Gets suspicious.*
Oh that's easy. You see Ms Harlot can give you and any other miner who asks all the good-faith advice in the world - I've posted high survivability Hulk fits repeatedly - secure in the knowledge that only a tiny fraction, if any, of the miners they encounter are likely to follow it, and only a small fraction of those will take the trouble to practice and think about how to apply that advice in order to follow it correctly. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:39:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Well can link this around. Part of the problem might be that they don't come on forums and such.
If miners, as a class, were the kind of people who'd take that kind of advice, then there wouldn't be events like Hulkageddon or Ice Interdiction in the first place. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:53:00 -
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VaMei wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:...or fit for maximum yield and no tank. What I've never understood is why someone would choose to fly a Hulk over a Covetor in a mining OP and NOT fit it for yield. If you have someone else to haul for you the Hulk's cargo bay is renderd moot, and if you only fit 1 MLU you out mine a Covetor with 1 MLU by only 3% with Exhumer-IV and by 6% with Exhumer-V. To get that 3-6% yield bump you pay 12 times the price for your ship. That price tag is only the real reason you worry about tanking your Hulk in the 1st place. Have you ever done the math to see how a Covetor and a Hulk do side in by side in terms of profit/hr? I did and it was insane. When you consider that you need to pay off your ship before you can actually claim profits, it takes a LONG time for the Hulk to actually pay for itself and then catch up with the profit that the Covetor was banking after the 1st or 2nd hour of mining. If you think there's enough risk of loosing your ship that you need to tank it, you'll do as well to just use a Covetor and keep the other 184Misk safe in your wallet.
Once upon a time, long, long ago, people used to mine in 0.0
You could pay off a hulk in an evening because they could tank the belt rats whilst a covetor would die in a fire.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:06:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? ... video game is just like ...t? It's really not funny. Trying to equate video game violence with real world rap.e is disgusting. I get it. They are just saying that those people probably have that sort of mentality.
Doom II caused Columbine c/d? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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