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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
302
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:13:00 -
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Would be really fun if the "carebear" afk miners were to suddenly stop mining... Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:14:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? Because getting your pixel ship blown up in a video game is just like getting raped in real life right? You are loathsome. Probably not butt there is hurt all the same. Sorry, couldn't help it.  It's really not funny. Trying to equate video game violence with real world rap.e is disgusting. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

P42ALPHA
nul-li-fy RED.OverLord
20
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:25:00 -
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LOLLOLOLLOLLOLOLOLOLOL
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
302
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:26:00 -
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P42ALPHA wrote:LOLLOLOLLOLLOLOLOLOLOL
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:36:00 -
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So I did some mackinaw ganking in the trusty catalyst few jumps out of jita the other day. Yes, for Lols! Does it make you mad?
The thing is, I'm gonna reveal something absolutely amazing here.....
wait for it....
For every mackinaw killed I had to skip about 5 on average because they were too tanky for me? You see that? That's your intervention right there lol
Also, it's hilarious how these "real players" allow a frig to move around the belt scanning one by one, no one flinching or saying anything or warping out. Even when being ganked none were pointed or even attempted to move. Some even continued to pod mine for a while.
These are either some really dumb people, or you know, the other thing that shall not be named. Seriously, you are campaigning to protect this kind of "player"?
I will say with 100% certainty, every whiner here is a serial afk miner, a bot owner, or just trolling. |

K Suri
Red Gooey Bananas
29
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:38:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? Because getting your pixel ship blown up in a video game is just like getting raped in real life right? You are loathsome. You're just jealous 'cos no-one WOULD **** you Harlot. Probably better off in a short mini-skirt and a tube-top because buck naked would just scare them off. |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
303
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:40:00 -
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If you want to AFK mine, fit a mining laser to an It MKV, tank it up and leave it there till dt. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
27
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:41:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:If you want to AFK mine, fit a mining laser to an It MKV, tank it up and leave it there till dt. Oh dear... I remember my noob days, doing that....  |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
303
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:41:00 -
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K Suri wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? Because getting your pixel ship blown up in a video game is just like getting raped in real life right? You are loathsome. You're just jealous 'cos no-one WOULD **** you Harlot. Probably better off in a short mini-skirt and a tube-top because buck naked would just scare them off.
No-one would **** you either. You look like a she-male. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
421
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:51:00 -
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Harlot you might want to get on the pipe to some corpies that actually play the game. I've been watching (OK, AFK cloak with the sound turned up) Triton Industries pulling Gallente Ice for the last two hours.
I'm getting an itchy salvage finger here. Less blather, more gank.
Mr Epeen  If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
857
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:54:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Harlot you might want to get on the pipe to some corpies that actually play the game. I've been watching (OK, AFK cloak with the sound turned up) Triton Industries pulling Gallente Ice for the last two hours. I'm getting an itchy salvage finger here. Less blather, more gank. Mr Epeen  I guess you still haven't checked the price of oxygen isotopes. Just because we're allowing a mackinaw or two to mine ice doesn't mean it ever makes it out of the system. Sorry to disappoint you.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
154
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:31:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? ... video game is just like ...t? It's really not funny. Trying to equate video game violence with real world rap.e is disgusting.
I get it. They are just saying that those people probably have that sort of mentality. Ideas & stuff No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |

Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:20:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Harlot you might want to get on the pipe to some corpies that actually play the game. I've been watching (OK, AFK cloak with the sound turned up) Triton Industries pulling Gallente Ice for the last two hours.
I'm getting an itchy salvage finger here. Less blather, more gank. Those guys have bought a mining license, so Goonswarm isn't going to **** with them. |

Mr Bill Bravor
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:25:00 -
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Miners and Traders have something in common in that even though other people are doing it around them they really wish they would just go away or in the miners case get ganked. The miners that do have techniques that keep them safe do not share them just as traders don't share their routes.
When we are ganked it is just figured in the cost of business, definitely not something to whine about on the forums.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
82
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:27:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? Because getting your pixel ship blown up in a video game is just like getting raped in real life right? You are loathsome. Probably not butt there is hurt all the same. Sorry, couldn't help it.  It's really not funny. Trying to equate video game violence with real world rap.e is disgusting.
Yes but no matter how hard you try, you cannot turn me into a rapist by alluding that one is worse than the other. If you have a valid point about raep to make go right ahead, but using a strawman argument to try to turn me into something I'm not is just stupid.
Sounds like someone needs to chill. |

Stella Dust
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:27:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote:I thought ... Please try to keep your comments on topic, thanks. 
Actually I thought he was on topic, as he's taken the information you've given in another thread you started and applied it to this thread (that you also started) which it is also relevant to.
Your answer to him suggests you're making threads for the sole purpose of trolling them. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
1048
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:06:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:But I bet you think that girl in the short mini-skirt and tube top was just begging to be raped, too. Amirite? ... video game is just like ...t? It's really not funny. Trying to equate video game violence with real world rap.e is disgusting. I get it. They are just saying that those people probably have that sort of mentality.
Doom II caused Columbine c/d? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1371
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:12:00 -
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Can the miner ganking be stopped now without intervention from CCP?
Yes. Invade goon space. They'll be far too busy to gank some pointless miners. GGvGGvGGv GG#If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GkmvGkm you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GG% GGv Karath Piki-a |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
82
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Can the miner ganking be stopped now without intervention from CCP?
Yes. Invade goon space. They'll be far too busy to gank some pointless miners.
Offering the services of my Widow and covert cyno alt if anyone feels like making a black ops run on good intel. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:42:00 -
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Flat out no. Itll end when people no longer want to do it or its not profitable or theres no lolz in it anymore. Will the Ice Interdiction end? Yes, but the when is left up to the Goons and possibly those copycatters willing to continue the practice.
For CCP to intervene to stop it theyd break mining, break highsec and have sealed their fate regarding the use of bots in high sec for all activities.
Whoevers got the Mackinaw bpos in Goons is making a killing atm along while driving up ice prices as an ancillary benefit. Just like Helicity Boson who I am entirely certain owns a hulk bpo has made hulkaggedon a yearly staple to drive sales. |
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Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:51:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Miners have been able to mitigate ganking since ganking was discovered. However, because it's much easier to get a free ride, they will instead play victim in order to get CCP to capitulate, and do their job for them. Considering the direction the game has been heading in, it's much more favorable for miners to not look after their own safety. Mama bear will be there to make the mean wolves go away.
Unfortunately, the carebears grossly underestimate how motivated hungry wolves become. Safety is a concept most fleeting, while they still roam the forest.
I have quoted Destiny here but what I am going to say is a response to any number of players who have made similar comments.
If I was Hilmar and I was reading this I would think "Ok so no matter how hard we make it the suicide gankers will continue to do their thing? And continue to pay me their lovely subs for me to spend on Dust? Great, lets throw a bone to the crybaby miners just to make sure they don't un-sub and move on."
Just saying, if you want people to take your point of view seriously you probably shouldn't be saying that you will continue to pay and play no matter what they do. |

Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:00:00 -
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VaMei wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Align to a safe point.
Are you suggesting that passive alignment actually does anything in Eve? Or, are you suggesting that a ship with an active align speed of 75m/s, and that needs to be w/in 10km of its target for 290s with max skills (over 640 with min) can actually do its job? Either way... Here's your sign.
Well assuming that you have no ability to improvise shortly, at minimum that gives you 266s between 'out of range' points along that line.
Of course when you are approaching 'out of range' you can also turn round and face the other one so you never go out of range. -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-a |

Jenshae Chiroptera
154
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:00:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:... Whoevers got the Mackinaw bpos in Goons is making a killing atm along while driving up ice prices as an ancillary benefit. Just like Helicity Boson who I am entirely certain owns a hulk bpo has made hulkaggedon a yearly staple to drive sales.
There is no BPO for a Mackinaw; they are T2
Ideas & stuff No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:19:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:... Whoevers got the Mackinaw bpos in Goons is making a killing atm along while driving up ice prices as an ancillary benefit. Just like Helicity Boson who I am entirely certain owns a hulk bpo has made hulkaggedon a yearly staple to drive sales. There is no BPO for a Mackinaw; they are T2 Macks and Hulks were released with RMR (2005) and the bpo lottery was changed to invention in Revelations (2006) one year later. This would have given enough time for people to get a hulk or mackinaw bpo by the old lottery system. Its possible but not guaranteed that anyone actually got one during that time period. But if you ask me that would provide the perfect cover to get rid of HUGE stockpiles of these ships through these events and make enormous amounts of isk in the process. And Helicity runs it yearly.
Just me pondering reasons for in game events. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
143

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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:38:00 -
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Off topic posts removed, please stay on topic and polite. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Stella Dust
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:18:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:... Whoevers got the Mackinaw bpos in Goons is making a killing atm along while driving up ice prices as an ancillary benefit. Just like Helicity Boson who I am entirely certain owns a hulk bpo has made hulkaggedon a yearly staple to drive sales. There is no BPO for a Mackinaw; they are T2 Macks and Hulks were released with RMR (2005) and the bpo lottery was changed to invention in Revelations (2006) one year later. This would have given enough time for people to get a hulk or mackinaw bpo by the old lottery system. Its possible but not guaranteed that anyone actually got one during that time period. But if you ask me that would provide the perfect cover to get rid of HUGE stockpiles of these ships through these events and make enormous amounts of isk in the process. And Helicity runs it yearly. Just me pondering reasons for in game events. 
Goons v's TEST, that would be an ingame event, Hulkageddon is nothing more than a turkey shoot. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:29:00 -
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Stella Dust wrote:
Goons v's TEST, that would be an ingame event, Hulkageddon is nothing more than a turkey shoot.
Seems I just got hit by the "lose your post feature"
Tbh its good economics. Freighters, orcas, mining barges and industrial ships that do not venture out of high sec have such a low chance if any at all of dying. The profit margins of producing these ships drops as the market saturation increases until only new players skilling into the ships are the only new buyers making the bpos and production of these ships almost worthless. To spur market dynamics events such as Hulkaggedon and the Ice Interdiction not only increase demand but also boost prices on these ships. Allowing the bpo holders and producers to again make a profit off the ships other than just turning minerals into a ship and reselling minerals in that formula.
Imo there should be more events like Hulkaggedon for Frieghters and larger ship classes and Hulkaggedon should run twice a year.
Before you scream about the miners and poor sods who are innocently ganked just remember that as a producer and Industrialist for many years in Eve its necessary when there is no decay effect. Or else you reach a point where you dont need to produce. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
156
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:50:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:[... ganked ... and Industrialist for many years in Eve its necessary when there is no decay effect. Or else you reach a point where you dont need to produce.
I don't know what you are smoking but for profit ganking goes on all the time in high sec. Miners get can flipped.
Besides that, there is null, low and worm hole space 3/4 parts of space where they are not safe. Why is there so little mining in those places? Ideas and CSM stuff No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |

Stella Dust
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:53:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Stella Dust wrote:
Goons v's TEST, that would be an ingame event, Hulkageddon is nothing more than a turkey shoot.
Seems I just got hit by the "lose your post feature" Tbh its good economics. Freighters, orcas, mining barges and industrial ships that do not venture out of high sec have such a low chance if any at all of dying. The profit margins of producing these ships drops as the market saturation increases until only new players skilling into the ships are the only new buyers making the bpos and production of these ships almost worthless. To spur market dynamics events such as Hulkaggedon and the Ice Interdiction not only increase demand but also boost prices on these ships. Allowing the bpo holders and producers to again make a profit off the ships other than just turning minerals into a ship and reselling minerals in that formula. Imo there should be more events like Hulkaggedon for Frieghters and larger ship classes and Hulkaggedon should run twice a year. Before you scream about the miners and poor sods who are innocently ganked just remember that as a producer and Industrialist for many years in Eve its necessary when there is no decay effect. Or else you reach a point where you dont need to produce.
All well and good, but I do wonder if it's the right targets. They have to mine a lot of ore to be able to buy a Hulk in the first place, would be much better to just have more wars. Problem is the larger corps don't seem to like wars (as such) anymore as it can weaken them, so they resort to hitting weaker targets. |

AureoLion
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
22
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:53:00 -
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You've got mids. Don't use them to tank, use them to web. spiderweb your barges, and enjoy being able to be hard aligned at 10 m/s. |
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