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Archare
SKEET ELITE
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Posted - 2011.11.09 02:54:00 -
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On sisi you can now set stations as destination and you will warp to 15k and then dock up when in range . |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2011.11.09 02:56:00 -
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Cool..
More gank targets!!!
I'm joking... a little. This is a cool feature, especially helpful when I am travelling in a shuttle and activate autopilot to go eat, so I will be in the station instead of sitting in space. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
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Posted - 2011.11.09 02:57:00 -
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Thats actually a really cool change if true. I approve!!!!!!!!! |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:01:00 -
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I like this feature a lot. It makes auto-piloting easier, and reduces AFK suicide ganks while at the same time increasing targets for more "active" ganking outside of stations (Ganking is ganking, but AFK suidide ganking is really the lowest of the low). |
Cunane Jeran
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:25:00 -
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Yeah as long as its the 15km crawl to station its a good change, allows you to safely dock if called away on doing a long trip.
On the ganking side of things, opens up a whole new world, of lazy industrials crawling to dock, while those who manually jump aren't affected at all. |
non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:27:00 -
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Yeah it has a different symbol in the autopilot list for when it's set to a station too. Not bad at all. Some really good little changes coming through. Like clicking jump on a gate, when not near it, will now warp to 0 and jump for you. |
TaterRoller
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:29:00 -
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This is awesome |
BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:31:00 -
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Not sure I approve... Let me start by saying I've never suicide ganked anyone, I live in 0.0, and I really couldn't care less about gankers one way or another. However, for the game as a whole I'm not sure it's a good turn. There's been quite a few tweeks lately that seem to focus on getting rid of gankers and like it or not it is (or was) a legit profession, you could earn a living ganking people that were stuipd. Sure, you still can, but between autopilots docking automatically now, insurance changes, concord changes, etc it really must have put a kink in their income. It also seems a little too much like CCP holding players hands. It seems to go against the cold, dark, do something stupid and get killed universe of Eve and I really see no reason behind it other than making players that aren't at the keyboard safer.
To give it to you another way, one person put it that there is a difference between making a game mechanic harder/easier and making it more or less tedious. It's tedious to salvage every wreak by dragging each one to your cargohold. Putting a loot all button doesn't make the game easier, it makes it less tedious. Now auto-docking at the end of your autopilot doesn't make the game less tedious, not by any reasonably significant amount. It's not hard to autopilot somewhere and at the end of that click the dock button, there's almost no effort at all. What it has done is reduce the likelihood of getting ganked (I did say reduce, I realize they still have 15km while you slowboat to the staiton to catch you). So it's made the game easier on those who aren't even at their keyboard, and harder on those that want to gank afk people for a living. I'm not sure this is what Eve is about.
Again, I say I'm not sure though. I love Eve being a cold dark place, but I also recognize that for it to grow as a game some concessions will have to be made with "casual" players. Perhaps these changes are some that I will have to accept. However, I wish CCP would look at doing two things with this (off the top of my head, maybe more). 1) They should start applying changes like this to highsec only. i.e. if you try this in low/0.0 your ship will jump through the last gate and sit there like always and 2) work on things for gankers to balance the equation, maybe special ships or tools, so they can still have a valid profession.
The first would allow casual gamers to stay in highsec. Yes, we are all on one server, but they have a completely different atmosphere than those living in more lawless lands. Perhaps this could be the beginning of setting the stage for more of a difference for lowsec too. Highsec = casual, lowsec = casual pvp, 0.0 = more hardcore (I realize this is kinda the way it's supposed to work out now, but a lot of people don't seem to think so).
The second would still allow tears to flow and gankers to get their loot from those that are especially clueless or lazy, while making it safer for those that may be lazy in using autopilot, but mitigate that risk by carrying less valuable cargo and want to play casual mode.
All in all, these changes to highsec mechanics, autopilot, and the like are the only thing I don't think I approve of in the new patch. I think they need to be fleshed out more and CCP really needs to look at the impact they will have on the "non-consensual pvp" portion of the player base. |
BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:34:00 -
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delete me |
Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2011.11.09 04:17:00 -
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you can now warp to zero and autojump. select gate, press jump instead of warp and it warps to zero and jumps. |
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Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.09 04:24:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:you can now warp to zero and autojump. select gate, press jump instead of warp and it warps to zero and jumps.
Yeah I noticed this as well.
Some great streamlining going on.
To adress the wall of text. There's no way to consider autopiloting to a station easier than autopiloting to a system. All it does is take care of the additional .1% of movement and present delicious gank targets. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
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Posted - 2011.11.09 04:26:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:you can now warp to zero and autojump. select gate, press jump instead of warp and it warps to zero and jumps.
woo, reward the manual piloters by making Jump work like Dock does while already in system The Drake is a Lie |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.11.09 04:36:00 -
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Excellent.
Can you imagine how the traffic in Jita will look around 4-4 now?
Interestingly, this will visually add a great deal of realism to the visuals around a busy station.
Oh, as to the comment above:
Quote:They should start applying changes like this to highsec only. i.e. if you try this in low/0.0 your ship will jump through the last gate and sit there like always
Unless you are very damn sure of your space, or simply don't care, you never fly on auto pilot anyway in Null... and certainly never in Low Sec.
And yes, although the insurance changes mean suicide gankers will have to be very very picky about their targets now... that long 15km trek to a station will give them plenty of scan time.
Currently most people time when they are going to arrive in the target system and make sure they are back at their keyboard in time to make the final jump to station.
Sure, some people lose track... but you can bet your bottom dollar the number of AFK pilots will go WAY up after this. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.09 05:12:00 -
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Cool I be a bit lazier now.
(if you're wondering im trying to experince this 'suicide gank' phenom but meh.)
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Airu Naari
The Noxious
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Posted - 2011.11.09 05:43:00 -
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AWesome, I play >50% of the time AFK anyway. |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
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Posted - 2011.11.09 05:53:00 -
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Now if MWD or AB would work during auto-pilot it would give the ganksters a little more of a challenge in target practice. |
Liu Ellens
Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation
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Posted - 2011.11.09 06:24:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Like clicking jump on a gate, when not near it, will now warp to 0 and jump for you. ...that's some Truckers-- err, Freighters Delight.
I'm a little freighter - short and stout; This is my cargo, this is my route. When I get a lock-on, I scream and shout: "Light up a cyno!" and jump on out. |
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