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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.28 17:09:00 -
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What kind of energy management systems are in place to solve energy overloading on a planet .
Sure, using energy can be useful, fun, necessary and so on, but what are a planet's limit?
Is there any exhaust system that can be used to pump the energy out as it is pumped in?
Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth?
We can feel wide temperature changes which do not occur in other normal condition.
What part of those energy factors involved cause energy overload which affects ecological system?
I think this management will increase the more we travel to space and even have to improve simulated gravity systems.
Planetary ecological system are getting very close to astronomical scale if not already related to it 100%
There currently exists measures in place to prevent the use of radio-activity in space to reduce atmospheric poisoning risk.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
94248
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Posted - 2014.01.28 18:39:00 -
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Fascinating.
It reads like a robo-script for generating random sentence and word combinations that sort of sound "real", but actually were not written by anything actually sentient. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.28 18:47:00 -
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Good suggestion perhaps, how much would you sell a robot like that to go fetch Fukushima rods?
I think I would partly omit the suggesting that a human target is not sentient or similar impersonation. I don't see how it would make the robot look good or generate good work. |
Rain6638
Team Evil
2275
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:48:00 -
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i'm thinking glass grade. definitely pipe [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
94365
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Posted - 2014.01.28 20:05:00 -
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Rain6638 wrote:i'm thinking glass grade. definitely pipe
But a guitar will help with the simulated gravity system. And the Dinner of Flowers. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.28 20:12:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Rain6638 wrote:i'm thinking glass grade. definitely pipe But a guitar will help with the simulated gravity system. And the Dinner of Flowers. I mean, not too heavy but still... |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9960
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:03:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Rain6638 wrote:i'm thinking glass grade. definitely pipe But a guitar will help with the simulated gravity system. And the Dinner of Flowers.
Don't forget a perfectly groomed moustache. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
94412
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:07:00 -
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Thread content and layout designed by William S. Burroughs. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Commissar Kate
Team Evil
42672
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:27:00 -
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I think I just got a contact high. People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
Unlocking all racial clothing |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
5013
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:35:00 -
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When I run into energy problems on planets, I train command center upgrades to the next level. |
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Sheimi Madaveda
Arma Purgatorium Templis CALSF
12069
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:40:00 -
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But do you run into energy overload on your planets? What skill needs to be trained to avoid this mishap? Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the Corporation Faction Warfare, PvP, Industrial - Open for Recruiting http://armapurgatorium.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/arpur_recruit1.png-á |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
94493
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:49:00 -
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Sheimi Madaveda wrote:But do you run into energy overload on your planets? What skill needs to be trained to avoid this mishap?
I don't know.
But I bet there is a new Siphon that will suck away most of it. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Sheimi Madaveda
Arma Purgatorium Templis CALSF
12071
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:53:00 -
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Of course! Why didn't I think of that! Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the Corporation Faction Warfare, PvP, Industrial - Open for Recruiting http://armapurgatorium.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/arpur_recruit1.png-á |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:31:00 -
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Do you mean like black hole to speed up the exhaust exhaustion rate?
I think there's probably more energy that exits the planet than before even if it inputs more energy...
Maybe holes in the protective and poisonous ozone does that...
I think it would be safe to export extra energy though.
At least safer than say, export energy that is more important for normal ecological systems.
The current systems in place to deal with planetary energy overload consist of the Command Centers, Launchpad, Storage Facilities, Planetary Links (Link Cost By Distance, Link Upgrade Costs)
It doesn't mainly deal with energy overload in so far as it deals with production.
Nonetheless, it still uses a system to have those materials exported outside of the planet.
I was of course referring to real life out of pod planets. Not the parallel virtual version in EVE.
The reference to the planet (or satellite) size death star is from Star Wars. Funny enough it seems designed to shoot a beam of energy towards a planet which could potentially be from a star.
It seems to have been designed to work from other energy reaction source.
The mention referring to an exhaust was since it : Death Star II The first major change made in this redesign was the elimination of the two-meter-wide thermal exhaust port that was used to ignite a chain reaction in the main reactor of the first Death Star, destroying it.
... The explosion of the station's hypermatter core created a minor wormhole at its collapse. Some of the station's wreckage would pass through said wormhole, including Darth Vader's right glove. While some debris ended up on Mon Calamari, it is believed that more was dispersed throughout the galaxy.[21]
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1934
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:47:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth? Long story short, as long as we're talking solar panels ON the planet, it's physically impossible to generate "TOO much energy", since that energy would have reached the planet regardless of their presence or absence. If you're talking off-planet massive solar panels beaming energy remotely down, then it depends.
Oiras Isimazu wrote:Sure, using energy can be useful, fun, necessary and so on, but what are a planet's limit? Yeah, it's called thermal radiation. It happens constantly. And it goes up as temperature goes up. With temperature to the fourth power. So, basically, a 10% increase in absolute temperature increases dissipated energy by 46.41%. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:10:00 -
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Akita T wrote:[quote=Oiras Isimazu]Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth? Long story short, as long as we're talking solar panels ON the planet, it's physically impossible to generate "TOO much energy", since that energy would have reached the planet regardless of their presence or absence. ... Yes, it would take a long time, and that energy would have to be trapped and not dissipated enough to really overload over time. It would still be a small percentage even though it may create wider changes than normal.
I was referring to external energy from external sources, or from more accelerated than normal internal energy reactions.
I'm pretty sure we're unfamiliar with the all the details of such changes so far.
I guess we're learning faster than before mind you.
I am not sure which equation you are referring to using the magnitude of 'With temperature to the fourth power' scope.
StefanGÇôBoltzmann law?? |
Rain6638
Team Evil
2277
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Posted - 2014.01.29 03:48:00 -
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OP, lemme see your teeth. show me your gumline [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1936
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:20:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:I am not sure which equation you are referring to using the magnitude of 'With temperature to the fourth power' scope. StefanGÇôBoltzmann law?? That's the basic part, yes. See in particular subpoint 2.3 with explanations of differences between idealized theory and actual practice in the case of this planet. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.31 21:37:00 -
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Akita T wrote:P.P.S. Besides, past a certain point in available useful energy, it actually becomes feasible to just build massive radiative heatsinks at an altitude higher than most of the greenhouse gases layers, where you use some energy to pump tremendous amounts of heat from the ground levels upwards. Basically, building refrigerators for the entire planet. Energy Export to the Moon receiver or other could work too!! Even Moon goo! |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:39:00 -
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I'm too busy with rewriting notes from court to make it more readable and annotate them with related details of facts.
I also want to calculate the time it takes to save the EVE Forums posts and EVE Mails. Inbox Corporation Alliance Sent Mail
And the Mailing Lists...
That way, I can save my work and somehow reuse it for related work.
Either way, that should keep me too busy for at least 3 to 4 weeks or longer. |
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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
118
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:32:00 -
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It is keeping me busy for longer. |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
167
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Posted - 2014.03.18 22:57:00 -
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So what stuff is recommended for intake to get sense of this thread ?
I tried alcohol but this thread is still a mess and letters are a perhaps bit blurrier now. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.15 01:12:00 -
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A glass of red wine a day may be good for the heart. (It depends on conditions. Probably no use if you are addicted to alcohol or with ulcers or the like. You'd need some equivalent. Even then, that glass spread over the day may be better than in one shot.)
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Commissar Kate
Team Evil
60233
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Posted - 2014.05.15 01:14:00 -
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Holy necro thread!!!
People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
Unlocking All Racial Clothing || My Fanclub |
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
156
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Posted - 2014.05.15 01:32:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Oiras Isimazu wrote:Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth? Long story short, as long as we're talking solar panels ON the planet, it's physically impossible to generate "TOO much energy"
Quite so, but the problem with solar panels is that, using current technology, constructing one consumes more energy than the panel itself will return in its useful life.
Also, you still lose a portion of the energy that's produced, don't you? |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.15 01:39:00 -
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Evelyn Meiyi wrote:Akita T wrote:Oiras Isimazu wrote:Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth? Long story short, as long as we're talking solar panels ON the planet, it's physically impossible to generate "TOO much energy" Quite so, but the problem with solar panels is that, using current technology, constructing one consumes more energy than the panel itself will return in its useful life. Also, you still lose a portion of the energy that's produced, don't you? Except that the transfer of energy that is used to construct it is more focused and used for needed power. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1049
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Posted - 2014.05.15 06:21:00 -
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If Batman were here he would've sorted you all out already. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
159
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:
Except that the transfer of energy that is used to construct it is more focused and used for needed power.
It's not a 'transfer of energy' that matters -- a solar panel will not give a return on the energy invested in its construction. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:12:00 -
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Evelyn Meiyi wrote:Lar Tadaruwa wrote:
Except that the transfer of energy that is used to construct it is more focused and used for needed power.
It's not a 'transfer of energy' that matters -- a solar panel will not give a return on the energy invested in its construction. It will generate energy in a place that would otherwise require more energy and resources to move the power to that location.
It costs more energy to move a mass to a point than the energy it contains.
Edit: Alternately, you can interchange mass and matter. Even if the matter is not in the panel before.
Edit 2: I used to work with B2 panels. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1960
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:33:00 -
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Evelyn Meiyi wrote:the problem with solar panels is that, using current technology, constructing one consumes more energy than the panel itself will return in its useful life. Sorry, but that's PROBABLY no longer true, and it surely won't be true soon... but yeah, it was true a few years ago. http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es3038824
Quote:Also, you still lose a portion of the energy that's produced, don't you? That's sadly true about all types of electric power generation.
Oh, and it's already taken into account in those calculations - if it wouldn't have been, photovoltaics would have been considered global economy total net energy producers several years ago already. Also, they have NOT taken into account anything but installed facilities energy generation so far, which means those still in service (and future installs) will "pay back" all globally incurred "energy debts" in the next 6 years or so. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
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