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savannah katt
Trigon Escort Services
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:07:00 -
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Caldari mission runner looking to "super size" my L4 mission boat, love my tengu I use now but those odd missions where you need to take out structures kill me, or loads of BS (haven't ran into one I can't take down, but they can become time drains).. been looking at the Navy raven, navy scorp and the rattlesnake....all the different bonuses make my head hurt trying to figure out which would work best, my drone skills are only up to medium drone T2 and basic cruise/torp (not T2). Any ideas and reason why? thanks |
ExcalibursTemplar
Citadel Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:21:00 -
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Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. |
Cage Man
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:34:00 -
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RS is a droneboat, so unless you have T2 sentries and Gallente BS to 5, it really is not an option unless of course you plan to switch you training focus. Also your style of play will change when you use a drone boat, you basically become stationary. The other 2 will be a personal preference really... I like the navy scorp as it allows for an equal to to the navy raven but gives you 2-3 mids free for TP's, web's whatever. They both have the same skill requirements, so train up for the T2 cruise missiles and play on the test server to see which you prefer. Since the marauder changes they are now the way to go. I haven't tried the golem since the changes, but used to run with cruise missiles.. the extra velocity with the bastion could make torps useable.. but again.. play with it on the test server. The thick plottens... CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back?? |
Astapori Lyss
Prototype Concept Divide By Zero Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:14:00 -
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ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic.
I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1...
That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get?
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Rexxorr
Zero Corp Tax2
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:21:00 -
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Cruise CNR then move to a cruise Golem.
I run 3 tractors on my marauders plus a mtu. Drones salvage while I turn npcs into fresh wrecks.
Tractor the 3 closest wrecks, that will force the mtu to tractor the far wrecks. mtu will not tractor what is already tractored. Biggest plus of mtu is it will auto loot all nearby wrecks including the ones you have tractored and save you a lotta extra loot clicking. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:07:00 -
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Start with a Raven or CNR, and see if you like it, from there you can work on getting into the Golem.
Don't train for the rattlesnake, to be able to fly it efficiently you need gal battleship 5 and maxed out sentry drone skills, you really don't want to train for that unless you are 110% sure that is the ship you want to fly.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:32:00 -
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Astapori Lyss wrote:ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1... That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get?
on a marauder there's never a reason to not have one. You have the cargo space, it does the looting part for you, and its an extra, free, long range tractor beam. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Qalix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:45:00 -
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classic cruise regular raven, t2 fit will do just fine in any L4, especially if you've been running them in a tengu (so you know how to maintain range and proper aggro/trigger management).
as for MTUs, drone aggro fix or not, i never saw the point of gathering all my loot in one place to make it easier to steal. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:48:00 -
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Astapori Lyss wrote:ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1... That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get? yes, an mtu is very useful. if only for looting all your wrecks so you don't have to do it one by one.
edit: if your loot gets stolen, you're in the wrong solar system.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Qalix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:32:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Astapori Lyss wrote:ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1... That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get? yes, an mtu is very useful. if only for looting all your wrecks so you don't have to do it one by one. edit: if your loot gets stolen, you're in the wrong solar system. SoE mission runners currently don't have much of a choice of systems to work. Elsewhere, I suppose it's less of a risk. |
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savannah katt
Trigon Escort Services
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:38:00 -
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not much hurts a tengu at 500ms in a 10k orbit around a mtu with the proper shield mods and a alt in a orca with 2 shield gang bonuses running, at least nothing I have ran into so far. but then my tengus setup wrong ( I use hm's) and not hams ( I like the range) and target any web/jam ships first, not something I can do using cruise missiles I know. ATM I'm leaning towards the sni mostly because it looks nice and has a slot or two for a web to hit those pesky little frigs with |
Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:44:00 -
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Astapori Lyss wrote:ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1... That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get?
MTU will make your life easier in almost every way. Multiple MTUs... not so much so (the ping-pong effect is a PITA).
If you have the cargo space bring an MTU. The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion
Click "like" in the original post to support it. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:50:00 -
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Astapori Lyss wrote:ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1... That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get?
In my marauders I almost never launch drones anyways. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
503
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:52:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote: yes, an mtu is very useful. if only for looting all your wrecks so you don't have to do it one by one.
that is seriously my favorite feature. Also if you sit right on top of it suicide gankers have to account for a 50% chance of the loot dropping when they kill you and another 50% chance from when they blow up your MTU. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Cu3ball
Edge of Darkness
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:15:00 -
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It might take a while to get there but lvl 4's in a Golem feels like cheating. Kills frigates with one volley, cruisers take 1 or 2. Half the ammo cost, crazy tank. I could go on, but I love mine. Imo, fastest way to run missions. I used to fly Tengus but now would not consider going back to one for missions.
I use a MT with 5 salvage drones. MJD 100k, kill everything, jump back to gate. Being 100k from landing point gives you time to deal with unwanted guest and cuts incoming DPS down a lot. |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:54:00 -
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Qalix wrote:SoE mission runners currently don't have much of a choice of systems to work. Elsewhere, I suppose it's less of a risk. Is looting a good use of your time if you're running SOE missions ?
Sure, the looting is quick. But then you come to the selling loot part. |
ExcalibursTemplar
Citadel Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.02.02 13:00:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Qalix wrote:SoE mission runners currently don't have much of a choice of systems to work. Elsewhere, I suppose it's less of a risk. Is looting a good use of your time if you're running SOE missions ? Sure, the looting is quick. But then you come to the selling loot part.
I generally salvage as i mission so it doesn't really add on that much extra time at the end. Take for instance Damsel in distress i've just ran that missions killed absoloutly everything but only spent an extra couple of minutes at the end finishing of salvaging. Which netted me in minerals (i reprocess everything but the most valueable gear) and salvage roughly 15 million isk .
I could probably salvage even faster if i finally could be bothered getting T2 salvagers and upping my salvage drone skills. |
Visione
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.02.02 15:15:00 -
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Qalix wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:Astapori Lyss wrote:ExcalibursTemplar wrote:Go for the CNR then move into a Golem, CNR good but a bastion mode Golem with an MTU is epic. I thought this was a troll at first, then i remembered that drone agro over mtu's was changed in 1.1... That said, is a MTU necessary considering the bonus to tractors the marauder's get? yes, an mtu is very useful. if only for looting all your wrecks so you don't have to do it one by one. edit: if your loot gets stolen, you're in the wrong solar system. SoE mission runners currently don't have much of a choice of systems to work. Elsewhere, I suppose it's less of a risk.
if you are running SOE forget the loot, you wanna blitz the missions to crank out the most LP in the shortest time, you will gain your profit from selling the LP's and not the loot,
it's only worth collecting loot when not running SOE, and even then, maybe just blitz the bounties and LP is better, not sure tho
and about missioning speed, missiles tend to be "slow" dps, they are not really efficient. if you are looking for something else sexy that does kin/therm, check the kronos i fly all marauders, and my golem is just rotting away now because it's not fast at all tbh, kronos for kin/therm, paladin for EM, mach/vargur for Exp,
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