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Bamsey Amraa
Unseen Nomads Exiled Ones
70
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:57:00 -
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Someone in CCP should lost their job already for another adding changes in gam,e without thinking about Wormholes and players inside...... Again... !!! |
Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
248
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:58:00 -
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Well its not totally bad.
We all know most "surprise pvp" doesn't happen through a targets wormhole's static. As for non surprise pvp.. who cares if they know you are there or not>>>!??
Clearly Concord has little interest in wormhole space, there for the item really has no place in wormhole space. 25m isk to have a spam of who comes and goes in a target can be amusing.
Not going to say this thing is game breaking, but I will say it doesn't belong. As long as its here, i will think of some very cleaver ways to torment my fellow wormholers... and make for some good stories. Co-host of Down The Pipe Podcast Read more of my ramblings on my blog. |
Tyrant Scorn
12
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:00:00 -
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Rall Mekin wrote:Agree. Chitsa is cool. This isn't "emergent gameplay." Its the dev's changing something with little thought, and I'm hoping was an oversight they quickly fix. Free intel in wh space should not be given out, as Chitsa quickly has went on record saying, in agreement with what appears to be 95% of those posting here....
CCP + Quickly Fix = Wormhole Wobble Syndrome... I don't see them fixing it quick. ...
-á |
Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
202
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:05:00 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:Rall Mekin wrote:Agree. Chitsa is cool. This isn't "emergent gameplay." Its the dev's changing something with little thought, and I'm hoping was an oversight they quickly fix. Free intel in wh space should not be given out, as Chitsa quickly has went on record saying, in agreement with what appears to be 95% of those posting here.... CCP + Quickly Fix = Wormhole Wobble Syndrome... I don't see them fixing it quick.
eh if its an oversight we might get a stealth fix as soon as a serious glitch presents itself... Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |
jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
256
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:27:00 -
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Making it so they can't be used to monitor jumps in and out of system via local is sufficient. Between that and the scan overlay you need an absolute minimum of effort to have effectively a local list that updates whenever someone jumps in from any hole.
They might make interesting warpin traps for POSes and planets and things, and while as a scout I'm not particularly fond of that I at least am willing to accept it. If you are scouting and don't check what you're about to warp to, you may as well be prepared to give away your presence from a standard can-and-bubble trap. If you can plant it on a hole, you have no warning and no way of avoiding giving away not only the fact that you jumped in but your name to everyone in system. That's not gameplay, that's the entire problem with local, and the reason I left for w-space in the first place.
The primary difference between this and a bubble + scout, for reference, is twofold. First, if you are using a scout, the scout has to be paying attention. If it broadcasts in local, only one person anywhere in the entire system needs to be paying attention. Second, they don't need to be paying attention the exact minute you jump in, it will log it in local for all to see, so I can walk away, come back whenever, and know that someone jumped in, and even more know exactly who that person is. There is no gameplay here, just free information that W-space is specifically NOT supposed to provide.
So, keep it away from WHs or kick it out of w-space entire, I don't care, but the current state is completely unacceptable. |
Winthorp
Sky Fighters
664
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:38:00 -
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Wow James it has been almost a year since the WH community has heard from you or seen you post on forums, are elections this close already? (Insert witty signature here) |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
9109
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:39:00 -
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Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Tyrant Scorn
13
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:44:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Me... I... Ehmm... JAW DROP ! ...
-á |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR. Ragnarok.
211
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:44:00 -
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Thank you CCP Fozzie.. We at the wormhole community appreciate your steadfast approach to this issue "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
256
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:46:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Fozzie delivers. |
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James Arget
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
263
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:48:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Wow James it has been almost a year since the WH community has heard from you or seen you post on forums, are elections this close already? I appear in times of great strife. CSM 8 Representative
http://csm8.org |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR. Ragnarok.
211
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:50:00 -
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James Arget wrote:Winthorp wrote:Wow James it has been almost a year since the WH community has heard from you or seen you post on forums, are elections this close already? I appear in times of great strife.
To agree with the strife? tsk tsk tsk "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
228
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:51:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
*Bows before the angel of Bob.
Ok, we will relent. Thank you so much. Join End-of-Line, -EOL, today, and kill your CEO! (Terms and conditions apply.)
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Ness Phase
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
12
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:55:00 -
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+1 to remove or fix. |
James Arget
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
264
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:15:00 -
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Dmitry Wizard wrote:James Arget wrote:Winthorp wrote:Wow James it has been almost a year since the WH community has heard from you or seen you post on forums, are elections this close already? I appear in times of great strife. To agree with the strife? tsk tsk tsk
James Arget wrote:Right now I'm most likely going to advise CCP to add the same anchor distance limitation as exists for stations. Other options would be to disallow anchoring in wspace entirely, or to turn off the local broadcasting, but I like the fact that I can drop one at the star and anyone dumb enough to warp to it has just announced themselves in local.
This is why I don't post much. CSM 8 Representative
http://csm8.org |
Anariasis
Boris Johnson's Love Children Awakened.
39
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:28:00 -
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Finally realizing that testing-system on SiSi should always have a wormhole in it? I bet someone would have spotted it then. |
Tyrant Scorn
13
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:38:00 -
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Anariasis wrote:Finally realizing that testing-system on SiSi should always have a wormhole in it? I bet someone would have spotted it then.
Finding a WH from Empire on SiSi is pretty hard because the signatures don't get cycled like they are on Tranq. To test WH space features you have to have a SiSi character in WH space at the time of the account/character sync and make sure you don't take your character out. That way you will always have a character to scan your way into a WH. ...
-á |
Anariasis
Boris Johnson's Love Children Awakened.
39
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:45:00 -
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Exactly, but I guess it's not too difficult to script a WH into the testing system on SiSi. So that there's always one in there. |
Keith Planck
Sky Fighters
679
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:37:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Whelp that ends that, goodbye ESS
But jesus the amount of butthurt over it is insane, people have such unrealistic views of what this thing actually is and what it can do.
You'd think it automatically warped all PvE ships back to their pos when it was triggered. |
M Thomas
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
54
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:42:00 -
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James Arget wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:James Arget wrote:Winthorp wrote:Wow James it has been almost a year since the WH community has heard from you or seen you post on forums, are elections this close already? I appear in times of great strife. To agree with the strife? tsk tsk tsk James Arget wrote:Right now I'm most likely going to advise CCP to add the same anchor distance limitation as exists for stations. Other options would be to disallow anchoring in wspace entirely, or to turn off the local broadcasting, but I like the fact that I can drop one at the star and anyone dumb enough to warp to it has just announced themselves in local. This is why I don't post much.
I for one thank James for his courage in taking up the "more local intel in wspace" banner in the face of so much opposition. Many of us love null sec and want wpsace to take more steps that direction. Thank you James for being our voice. |
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Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
828
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:02:00 -
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M Thomas wrote:
I for one thank James for his courage in taking up the "more local intel in wspace" banner in the face of so much opposition. Many of us love null sec and want wpsace to take more steps that direction. Thank you James for being our voice.
Next time we run into you, we are seeding caps No trolling please |
MrOogie Boogie
Oogie Boogie Inc
1
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:02:00 -
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Anariasis wrote:Exactly, but I guess it's not too difficult to script a WH into the testing system on SiSi. So that there's always one in there.
if there is a gm or a dev on sisi, you should be able to load up a hauler with what you want to test, or a probe ship and asked to be moved to a specific WH system. They move people around empire space all the time, if you had a valid reason it should not be to difficult to nicely ask to be moved to system j111111 or whatever |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
2966
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:16:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:whats the difference between this and having a 1 day old tune in a t1 frigate cloaked beside the hole with your sound on? are you trolling or intentionally ignorant?
Keith Planck wrote:You'd think it automatically warped all PvE ships back to their pos when it was triggered. that is, quite literally, exactly what it does in WHs. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR. Ragnarok.
223
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:31:00 -
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^ this. im glad its being tucked away in the "things that should not be here" vault. Long live no local "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Desmond Strickler
End-of-Line
288
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:33:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:thats not the point keith. its a 30 km bubble and broadcasts who you are in local.... its broken It is the point... It's cheaper and more efficient to use a real bubble and listen to the hole on an alt It's 25mil and cant be recovered so it's not like you can move them from wormhole to wormhole. It's just a slightly more convenient and expensive but less effective method of watching for Gankers. If those bears you tried to Gank had a large bubble and a scout on the hole you wouldn't have killed them. You won't see these on holes any more frequently then you'll see large bubbles. So what exactly is it breaking?
Because human error is more common than system error. Sometimes people won't catch the wh sound, but you will NEVER miss a ESS broadcast in local. It gives ratters/miners 100% security. The Black Prince of Wormholes-á
Part-Time Moon Bear and Full-Time Black Guy
"My other dread is a Swaglafar" |
Roggle
Forced Euthanasia
57
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:50:00 -
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Just as easy to put a cloaked alt on the hole, but no one bitches about that. |
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
228
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:57:00 -
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Roggle wrote:Just as easy to put a cloaked alt on the hole, but no one bitches about that.
It requires player activity and diligence; not a free broadcast in local when anyone enters. Might as well be null sec in that case. As said many times, it's already bad enough that when you are hunting and you roll into someone, they see your new sig appear on the odyssey scanner. At one time, you needed probes being cycled constantly for that--I,for one, miss those days. Join End-of-Line, -EOL, today, and kill your CEO! (Terms and conditions apply.)
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2010
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:19:00 -
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Roggle wrote:Just as easy to put a cloaked alt on the hole, but no one bitches about that.
Sometimes my alt misses someone jumping in when I have to go pee. |
Peter Moonlight
Direwolf-Rayet skylian Verge
52
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:04:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Roggle wrote:Just as easy to put a cloaked alt on the hole, but no one bitches about that. Sometimes my alt misses someone jumping in when I have to go pee. Ah, experienced that long time ago, and before that no one was jumping in for like 3 hours lol.. |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
831
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:06:00 -
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Roggle wrote:Just as easy to put a cloaked alt on the hole, but no one bitches about that.
That is because that intel is worked for. A player has to pay attention to said wormhole to notice someone entering. The ESS gives free intel with no effort, which is exactly what wh space doesn't need. No trolling please |
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