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Ravenssong
Oldspooks
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:30:00 -
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Hello;
I don't spend much time here. Actually I don't ever come here and I may not come back; however, an idea occurred to me tonight as I was engaged in trading crypto currency at Coinex.
There is no reason that ISK can not be mapped to a crypto currency, which would have value in the real world, and be traded on crypto currency exchanges.
If CCP has any dev who is engaged in mining crypto currency or trading it that person could be a very valuable resource to help CCP enter that market.
So roughly the idea is that CCP creates a crypto currency and premines some portion of each block rather than premining before release as is usually done. Then miners in Eve can mine some of that currency by mining ore. That currency can then be traded on the crypto coin exchanges.
This neatly binds CCP to the crypto currency exchanges (but only as much as CCP decides to venture). Then the crypto exchanges tie CCP to the actual banking system.
Suddenly miners in eve, are creating value in the real world.
That is about as simply as I know how to describe it.
Research it, think about it... Do what you will. |
Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:32:00 -
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exploiting miners to make ccp moar monies? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unreadOATHS wants you. Come to the WH |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
682
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:33:00 -
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Your idea is exactly the opposite of what players want and what would be good for the game. The last thing anyone wants to real world outcomes from our game. Please leave now. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
622
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:35:00 -
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I think there is a game going on I don't know about where people score points by posting on an MMO forum about crypto-currency. Looks like the yellow quafe shirt is more popular than I thought ;) |
Ravenssong
Oldspooks
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:36:00 -
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Welp, the thing is once ISK was a true crypto-currency anyone could trade it in the virtual world. CCP would naturally want to ensure the profitability of their game and business and that is why I suggested that they reserve some portion of each block which is mined. Naturally that portion would also be variable because they would need to be able to control the Eve economy as they now do. What this idea does is actually tie ISK to real world markets.
It is not a simple idea and would take a lot of planning and thought. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2284
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:37:00 -
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So, you're telling me you want to make Chribba the richest person on Earth? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:37:00 -
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The volatility of crypto currencies makes this idea not very good. That is all. |
Ravenssong
Oldspooks
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:38:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Your idea is exactly the opposite of what players want and what would be good for the game. The last thing anyone wants to real world outcomes from our game. Please leave now.
Actually, I don't think you know that... You are just making assertions about an idea that you probably don't really understand. Having the arrogance to ask me to leave, simply demonstrates a lack of tolerance for the other fellow's viewpoint.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:40:00 -
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Ravenssong wrote:There is no reason that ISK can not be mapped to a crypto currency, which would have value in the real world, and be traded on crypto currency exchanges. GǪaside from the whole RMT and money farming angle, both of which would be pretty horrid. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Ravenssong
Oldspooks
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:41:00 -
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Natassia Krasnoo wrote:The volatility of crypto currencies makes this idea not very good. That is all.
Hey it is about opinions. I understand your concerns but I believe CCP could insulate itself from that issue by any number of mechanisms. THe idea is worthy of consideration at the least.
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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
128
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ravenssong wrote:There is no reason that ISK can not be mapped to a crypto currency, which would have value in the real world, and be traded on crypto currency exchanges. GǪaside from the whole RMT and money farming angle, both of which would be pretty horrid.
Indeed, you think EVE had a problem with bots before? Run with this idea and CCP wouldn't be able to ban them fast enough. |
Ravenssong
Oldspooks
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:45:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ravenssong wrote:There is no reason that ISK can not be mapped to a crypto currency, which would have value in the real world, and be traded on crypto currency exchanges. GǪaside from the whole RMT and money farming angle, both of which would be pretty horrid.
That is true. Just as we had a problem years ago with mining bots and off line selling of PLEX, that would create an opening for exploitation which the devs would need to manage.... It would also create an opportunity for CCP to include new features into the game. Trading features which we do not have because we only have commodities exchanges right now. This could be used to give us access to currency exchanges. I dunno maybe they do the whole idea in game. That would protect CCP and the Eve community and people could still trade currencies.
You should actually THINK about your complaints before you make them.
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Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
622
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:46:00 -
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Ravenssong wrote:Natassia Krasnoo wrote:The volatility of crypto currencies makes this idea not very good. That is all. Hey it is about opinions. I understand your concerns but I believe CCP could insulate itself from that issue by any number of mechanisms. THe idea is worthy of consideration at the least.
What mechanisms?...
What mechanism insulates CCP from a currency that can change in effective exchange rate by 1000's of percent overnight?
Why is it worthy of consideration? What is lacking in the current system that cyrpo-currency will fulfil? Forums are playing EVE too. Fact. |
Ravenssong
Oldspooks
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:50:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Ravenssong wrote:Natassia Krasnoo wrote:The volatility of crypto currencies makes this idea not very good. That is all. Hey it is about opinions. I understand your concerns but I believe CCP could insulate itself from that issue by any number of mechanisms. THe idea is worthy of consideration at the least. What mechanisms?... What mechanism insulates CCP from a currency that can change in effective exchange rate by 1000's of percent overnight? Why is it worthy of consideration? What is lacking in the current system that cyrpo-currency will fulfil?
Currency exchanges. Do the races all trade in a universal currency? REALLY? Somehow that is not realistic.
Ok, so the argument I have heard is how do we protect CCP from exploitation and volitality...
ANSWER: CCP keeps it ALL in game. You create wealth in various systems in the currency of that system, or realm, or however CCP decides to define it.
You can then trade that currency on an Eve wide exchange. You can speculate within Eve on the various curriencies of EVE.
Ok so I have told you how to protect CCP, how to add a new feature to the game that some people would enjoy and profit from...
Nobody looses.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
830
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:52:00 -
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As there is already are several thread on (virtually) the same topic, this one gets a lock.
The rules: 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 10:49:00 -
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Unlocking this, as the most recent thread about such a topic is several weeks old and doesn't seem to be asking what the poster here is asking. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.02.05 11:00:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:I think there is a game going on I don't know about where people score points by posting on an MMO forum about crypto-currency.
Also, Crypto-Currency = Pyramid Scam. You're getting scammed playing effectively the worlds dumbest MMO.
And it is completely ilegal is a LOT of countries, meanign CCP would need to stop offering eve on those countries and loose the subscribers from these. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
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Posted - 2014.02.05 11:29:00 -
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Anybody notice that this guy starts the thread with the same Hello; like that other guy in the making isk thread?
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
200
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Posted - 2014.02.05 12:48:00 -
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Bitcoin for PLEX and GTC already exist, problem solved. |
Aiwha
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
710
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Posted - 2014.02.05 14:47:00 -
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Our pretend currency is more stable than every cryptocurrency in existence. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3476
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:28:00 -
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I love CCP, but I'm not sure if a Viking currency would be readily accepted worldwide. People might have the wrong impression it's some sort of scam or something. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:39:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I love CCP, but I'm not sure if a Viking currency would be readily accepted worldwide. People might have the wrong impression it's some sort of scam or something.
I'm sure everyone will accept it once they know of the legitimate isk/Viking doubler.
maybe if they make you the ambassador of the currency and go to every country promising them that you will double their isk it would work! Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:59:00 -
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Cosby coins are the wave of the future, and unlike other cryptocurrencies backed by ~voodoo~ this one is commodity backed. Why is this important you ask? It keeps the price of each cosby coin stable so that it can in fact be used as a stable market currency (Bitcoin has bottomed out a few too many times for a non idiot to accept them as payment for work), and not just an idiots commodity in it's own right.
But what backs the Cosby coin you ask? Simple. Each Cosby coin is not only a unit of currency but a promise that should you redeem your Cosby coin you will receive one delicious pudding based snack. This is change we can taste. |
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
80
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Posted - 2014.02.05 19:21:00 -
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Iceland might actually be a good starting ground to seed a crypto-coin.
BTW, auroracoin
On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6350
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:17:00 -
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what a stupid idea from a stupid person applying an even stupider idea to eve
stupid Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6350
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:24:00 -
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Ravenssong wrote:Silvetica Dian wrote:Your idea is exactly the opposite of what players want and what would be good for the game. The last thing anyone wants to real world outcomes from our game. Please leave now. Actually, I don't think you know that... You are just making assertions about an idea that you probably don't really understand. Having the arrogance to ask me to leave, simply demonstrates a lack of tolerance for the other fellow's viewpoint. the sure sign anyone doesn't understand a large wealth of topics including but not related to anything to do with money or the economy and including cryptocurrency itself is they are a proponent of cryptocurrencies Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:26:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I love CCP, but I'm not sure if a Viking currency would be readily accepted worldwide. People might have the wrong impression it's some sort of scam or something.
I enjoy reading your posts, truly. This one, however, is my favorite. http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3482
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:36:00 -
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Let's not forget the children. This idea would encourage third world sweat shops full of minors working in the belts. Most likely, the managers carrying guns, would cut corners and not buy their workers mining permits. And what if they didn't meet their crypto quota for the day due to being afk and getting ganked? I don't want to know.
Vote YES for children Vote No for Crypto Quotas See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.02.05 21:17:00 -
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Wait, you want to make in game currency the equivalent of fakecoin? I... really have no words to even remotely respond to how dumb this idea is. Let alone the fact that I am 99% sure bitcoins and the like are just fads that will die out and leave a lot of people penniless. But as the old saying goes, a fool and his money.... |
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
375
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Posted - 2014.02.05 21:30:00 -
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Ravenssong wrote:I may not come back
Do you promise? Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
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