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Dhuras
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation Moist.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:57:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Dhuras wrote:The old crucifier hull was very visually distinct. when you saw it you would immediately know what it was, but this new model is as generic as it gets. a blobby mess with 2 wings that looks like a thousand other Tai Fighter rip-offs I know the old crucifier hull was a bit of an odd shape and that turned some people off, but the ship models aren't doing to please everyone and some of us like our asymmetry, and again, it was visually striking, you knew exactly what a crucifier was by the silhouette alone. Get your grubby assymetrical paws off my Crucifier!! I love the new model!! :D
NEVER!
A little asymmetry never hurt anyone. |
Jasen Harper
Hancock Development Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:04:00 -
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I don't understand how they bring out a new ship model and then forget to give it a 2nd paint for the T2 variant.
Also, it was supposed to be animated, where did that go? You can plainly see where it should be animated but is not.
Otherwise it looks pretty good. The Templis Dragonaurs are an ultra-nationalist Caldari terrorist organization whose origins date back to the Tikiona States. They are the most anti-Gallentean political entity in New Eden, and were secretly involved in the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. |
Meandering Milieu
FML LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:18:00 -
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Ronny Hugo wrote: The only other race battleships that make engineering sense is the maelstrom, typhoon and Rokh.
Um, Megathrom, Machariel, Dominix, Raven?
I mean, most of those are built like literal bricks.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:02:00 -
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Jasen Harper wrote:I don't understand how they bring out a new ship model and then forget to give it a 2nd paint for the T2 variant.
Also, it was supposed to be animated, where did that go? You can plainly see where it should be animated but is not.
Otherwise it looks pretty good.
It has a T2 paint but the Viziam base color (for most of the armor parts) looks very similar to the standard Amarr color, and the Viziam color for the ornaments has this slight green cast, which is very prominent on their other ships, like the Prorator, but not so much on the Sentinel because it has comparatively small ornamental areas.
It is not supposed to be animated just yet. As the Art Dept stated during FF2013, they are going to remodel ships with features in mind that allow for an implementation of transformation animations of their hulls in the future. They never stated an exact date when this animation would happen. |
Damien White
Sonnenlegion Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:55:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Also the artists have got carried away with the scaling, it looks far too big to be a frigate hull, not unless those windows are tiny.
Those arent windows, Frigates only have 1-3 Pilots, thats it.
Anyway, I would like to see this model used for the punisher and the Assault frigates because this way I could fly it more often. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,
"DO A BARREL ROLL!" |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:59:00 -
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If they aren't windows what are they? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Damien White
Sonnenlegion Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:36:00 -
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Status lights for internal systems?
No idea.
But take a look at the bantam for example, it is a one pilot ship and you clearly see where the pilot is located and how "small" the ship realy is. And still you have those lights.
EDIT: Or they are for cooling purposes. Since we are in space cooling stuff is one of the biggest problems Spaceship designers have to face because a vacuum is the perfect insulation and you only can cool stuff by using heat radiation. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,
"DO A BARREL ROLL!" |
Hairpins Blueprint
Paragraph 22 Aureus Alae
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:56:00 -
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game is changing ... adapt, i was craying over old vaga and tempest, but they are very cool after all : ))
The Vaga ohh man, matars have designers that make hot ships. |
Mixu Paatelainen
T1LL THE END
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:41:00 -
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Supported. |
Jasen Harper
Hancock Development Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:43:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:
It has a T2 paint but the Viziam base color (for most of the armor parts) looks very similar to the standard Amarr color, and the Viziam color for the ornaments has this slight green cast, which is very prominent on their other ships, like the Prorator, but not so much on the Sentinel because it has comparatively small ornamental areas.
It is not supposed to be animated just yet. As the Art Dept stated during FF2013, they are going to remodel ships with features in mind that allow for an implementation of transformation animations of their hulls in the future. They never stated an exact date when this animation would happen.
Okay, I stand corrected on the t2 paint scheme however all 4 marauders are animated and came that way when they were changed for Rubicon. There is absolutely no reason why a brand new ship, that is obviously supposed to be animated shouldn't be on release. Anything said about it at this point is simply an excuse.
The Templis Dragonaurs are an ultra-nationalist Caldari terrorist organization whose origins date back to the Tikiona States. They are the most anti-Gallentean political entity in New Eden, and were secretly involved in the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. |
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
181
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:43:00 -
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Crucifier, nail shape, amarian religious back-story, good ewar system. Was a good ship with personality. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1089
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Posted - 2014.03.03 08:32:00 -
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The old design was sleek and elegant, this new design is caldari in ugliness and minmatar in colour. You've only got to look at the amarr rookie ship to see that the crucifier is clearly upside down and obviously so. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
83
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Posted - 2014.03.03 10:41:00 -
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There are really people who preferred the old flying abortion to the new Crucifier?
Man, you people are just insane. This is the pure essence of madness here. |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2014.03.03 11:19:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:God yes, bring back the old model, the new model looks like it's flying upside down, plus we were told that it would be animated and I have yet to see any animation on it.
Also the artists have got carried away with the scaling, it looks far too big to be a frigate hull, not unless those windows are tiny.
OP +1
Yep, it looks like it should be some sort of heavily armoured cruiser, and not the fragile electronic attack frigate which it is. Artists should alter it or use the model for something more appropriate. |
Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
63
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Posted - 2014.03.03 11:56:00 -
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the old model was one of the worst models in the game.
asymmetry in the overall structure of a ship is silly and should never happen. small parts, like the pod on the megathron's side or the cockpit on the millenium falcon are understandable, but in both cases the main hull is generally symmetrical. asymmetry just makes a ship complex for no corresponding gain.
real warships are only asymmetrical when they need to be. aircraft carriers are, but they have a distict reason to be that way. asymmetrical turret arrangements were tried with some early British dreadnought battleship classes, but they were dispensed with because in line turrets accomplished the same goal of a full broadside better,with less complex internal arrangements. EVE may not be strong on realism and science, but theres no reason to exaggerate that with ship models that just have pieces hanging all over the place for no good reason. |
Naomi Anthar
306
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Posted - 2014.03.03 12:25:00 -
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No No No No No No No No and again No. New Cruci hull looks great, just like Sentinel. Both ships also got rebalanced so they are viable options in non ugly hull ;).
And it's not caldari ... go back to your moas and blackbirds - Amarr hulls need some style and grace. |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty. DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 12:55:00 -
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Why did you even bother making this thread?
CCP spent actual development time and money making a new model for the Crucifier. They're not going to just go "oh, bring back the old one" because some people don't like it. Mane 614
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Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.03 13:00:00 -
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The problem I have with the Crucifier hull is that it looks like a fat Executioner or Slicer. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2014.03.03 13:19:00 -
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I swear to god, you people are on drugs and will have a hissy fit about literally ANYTHING.
If you hate change that much, why are you playing a constantly-changing game like EVE?
Jasen Harper wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:
It has a T2 paint but the Viziam base color (for most of the armor parts) looks very similar to the standard Amarr color, and the Viziam color for the ornaments has this slight green cast, which is very prominent on their other ships, like the Prorator, but not so much on the Sentinel because it has comparatively small ornamental areas.
It is not supposed to be animated just yet. As the Art Dept stated during FF2013, they are going to remodel ships with features in mind that allow for an implementation of transformation animations of their hulls in the future. They never stated an exact date when this animation would happen.
Okay, I stand corrected on the t2 paint scheme however all 4 marauders are animated and came that way when they were changed for Rubicon. There is absolutely no reason why a brand new ship, that is obviously supposed to be animated shouldn't be on release. Anything said about it at this point is simply an excuse.
Since you have clearly never flown or interacted with a Marauder in your entire life, let me clue you in: Marauders need a special module to trigger that animation, and you only see it when that module is active. Where is the animation-triggering module or status for the Crucifier's animation? OH RIGHT. IT DOESN'T HAVE ONE YET.
Nobody's come up with any ideas yet for what should trigger animations on subcaps other than Marauders yet. Nobody's designed modules or statuses or special operation modes for anything of the sort. They're re-designing ships with the animation included right now so that they don't have to go back and re-design them again later. Get your head out of your ass and stop acting so bloody self-entitled.
Not that it matters. Any reason in the world, no matter how important or true it may be is just an excuse, right? Logic and reality and resource limitations? Nonsense! Those are just pathetic excuses! CCP has no right to deny you your animations when you want them to be delivered and they should be grateful you don't demand that they pay you to play their game! Right?
People like you are the reason CCP doesn't tell us as much about development as they used to. For that, you have my eternal contempt. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
247
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:05:00 -
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Actually, CCP themselves suggested in the art panel that normal modules could trigger the animation, if it gets implemented at some point. So, for example on the Crucifier, the activation of Tracking Disruptors could trigger the hull animation ... in the future. |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1862
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Posted - 2014.03.04 13:07:00 -
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Certainly, but that doesn't invalidate what I said. |
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