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Micheal Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:52:00 -
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I play Dust 514 religiously...you may recognize my screen name as I'm a remote explosives menace on the battlefield.
I just downloaded EVE and started rocking out on the starter missions and lo and behold, I wasn't out of the royal academy school place for a minute before I got blown up.
So now I have no armor repair thing and gatling laser whatever multifrequency deal......and lo and behold I can't buy them from the market because they cost $149,000 isk and I only have 5000
so I can't complete the tutorial...what the hell do I do? This is freaking ridiculous. I'm supposed to PAY my money from my job to play THIS game when I can't even get through the starter missions and learn how to play the game without being killed IN ONE MINUTE?
Seriously? |
Mynutor
Black Box Technologies
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:00:00 -
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You have been really unlucky.
If you need help the GMs can help you out, they can restore you ship and stuff in a couple of minutes.
If that doesn't help contact me in game and I can help you with a little ISK.
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Dust is easy: you have a team, the other side has a team, everyone shoots and have fun.
Eve isn't that easy. |
Micheal Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:04:00 -
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Mynutor wrote:You have been really unlucky. If you need help the GMs can help you out, they can restore you ship and stuff in a couple of minutes. If that doesn't help contact me in game and I can help you with a little ISK. - Dust is easy: you have a team, the other side has a team, everyone shoots and have fun. Eve isn't that easy.
I don't expect it to be easy....but I expect to be able to get my bearings and learn HOW to play the game and then if I suck, I suck but I suck honestly and not because imperial navy whatever whatever's just kill me the second I leave the captain's quarters.
Its just no bueno...you know? Imagine someone brought you a pile of wood and woodworking tools and said build me a chair in 5 minutes and if you don't I'm going to blow your head off with this here shotgun.
That hardly seems fair to me *shrugs* that's all. |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:04:00 -
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How did you die? Was it a player, or NPC? Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all. |
Micheal Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:11:00 -
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Dkeh Weis wrote:How did you die? Was it a player, or NPC?
Edit: And were you in a mission?
You can check what killed you by going to your character portrait, and going to "Combat Log"
It says "No Kills"
I keep getting killed by "Imperial Navy" something or other...everytime I poke my head out of the royal school deal and try to go anywhere the second I arrive, I've got imperial navy something or others in my ass killing me.
When I got the weapons or repair system things or whatever else, I wasn't even out of the royal academy for 60 seconds before I was dead. |
Emissary Bartoque
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:12:00 -
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Something does not smell right.... You should not be getting killed right outside the station unless you fired on another player... We need more info before we can help...
Wait a minute, I see you are in a player corporation... I am guessing that your corp is involved in faction warfare and you are doing tutorials in enemy territory... drop back to an NPC corp for the tutorials. Also ask your corp about this situation, someone should be able to fill you in. |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
61
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:13:00 -
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That is quite odd, and should not be happening. I would either petition a GM, or create a new character and see if it is still happening.
Unless anyone has a better explanation? Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all. |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
121
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:21:00 -
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Emissary Bartoque wrote:Something does not smell right.... You should not be getting killed right outside the station unless you fired on another player... We need more info before we can help...
Wait a minute, I see you are in a player corporation... I am guessing that your corp is involved in faction warfare and you are doing tutorials in enemy territory... drop back to an NPC corp for the tutorials. Also ask your corp about this situation, someone should be able to fill you in.
Faction warfare limits your options in EvE rather than expanding them as it does in Dust. As suggested, stay in a rookie/non FW corp until you get your bearings. Then let a large chunk of space shoot at you. |
Emissary Bartoque
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:31:00 -
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I did a little digging and I suspect we may be getting trolled here... OP was in game for 10 minutes before joining a 1 man corp? Just doesn't seem kosher to me. |
Micheal Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:34:00 -
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Here's the full story;
I opened EVE this morning, logged in and made my new character. I got in on this trial account deal and I walked around the captains quarters because its exactly the same as the merc quarters in Dust. I was pleased with this and being able to sit down on the couch lol
I opened the chat, added "comms.tnz" for The Neutral Zone (the corp I am in in Dust/Eve) and then opened the corp finder, searched out Neutral Zone, found it...applied, clicked over to the ps3 and accept my own application (I'm director of nzone)
I did what the tutorial said...hopped in my little capsule and warped out to pick up my ship. As soon as my little capsule guy got into the bigger impairor ship...I sat there for a minute reading the tutorial, BOOM! Blown up.
I was like well crap....but I saw an insurance message pop up and it was like hey we gave you a new ship so you're not SOL and I was like oh cool.
So I repeated the process, went and used to activation gate to hit a cargo bay thing like the tutorial said....hit the cargo bay, boom..immediately blown up by imperial navy something or other.
This happened 4 more times until FINALLY I got away and warped back to the school. I sat outside the school for a minute while I nuked myself a sammich in the microwave, came back...ship blown up sitting right outside the academy.
I was pissed by then but I did the next mission and it gave me some guns and repair stuff and I did the fittings and within 60 seconds of leaving the academy dock, I was dead.
Now I have nothing to complete the tutorial, no money to replace the crap and I'm sort of annoyed with that. |
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Emissary Bartoque
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:40:00 -
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Leave your dust corp, it is what is causing your problems as it has bad standings with the empire you are trying to do tutorials in.
When you dock while in a pos you should be given a new rookie ship, check your ship hangar. With that ship you should be able to continue the tutorial. |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
61
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:41:00 -
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Ok, so the deal is the corp you joined is involved with "Faction Warfare".
Basically, the Caldari / Amarr are on one side, and the Gallente and Minmatar are on the other side.
Lets say, for example, that you are in Caldari space, but on the Minmatar / Gallente team of faction warfare. The Caldari navy is going to attack you on site.
To remedy this, you must leave your corporation. Faction Warfare effectively makes you "kill on site" in half of empire space.
As for the lost modules and ships, you can either go to another starter zone and start the tutorial over, or you can open a ticket to a MG (I don't know if they will send you stuff), or you can create a new character, or if someone is willing to send you ISK, you can buy new stuff. You can also fly to any station while in your pod, and you will be given a free ship.
The stuff you lost is next to worthless, so don't sweat it.
Edit: It may also be because the corporation you are in has bad standings with the empire that controls the area of space you are in. Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all. |
Micheal Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:41:00 -
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Emissary Bartoque wrote:I did a little digging and I suspect we may be getting trolled here... OP was in game for 10 minutes before joining a 1 man corp? Just doesn't seem kosher to me.
I'm not trying to "troll" anyone bro...I'm just trying to get a fair shake to learn the game like everyone else. |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
61
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:44:00 -
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Micheal Epic wrote:Emissary Bartoque wrote:I did a little digging and I suspect we may be getting trolled here... OP was in game for 10 minutes before joining a 1 man corp? Just doesn't seem kosher to me. I'm not trying to "troll" anyone bro...I'm just trying to get a fair shake to learn the game like everyone else.
We see a lot of trolling on these forums (New Citizen Q&A in particular). Don't take his suspicion personally
Also, he posted that before you explained what was going on :)
Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all. |
Micheal Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:47:00 -
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Hey everyone, thanks a lot for offering me help and assistance in this matter. I didn't realize our chosen side in Dust would impact EVE.
That makes perfect sense....thanks a lot, its saved me a lot of stress. I'm just going to biomass this character and remake it tomorrow :D
Thanks again...you were all really helpful. |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
61
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:48:00 -
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ANOTHER NEWBRO HELPED SUCCESSFULLY!!
COOKIES FOR EVERYONE!!! Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1156
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:49:00 -
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* Removed out-of context post myself *
EDIT: Only now do I read the FW implication. That's hilarious! |
Emissary Bartoque
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:53:00 -
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You are welcome. Sorry for the lack of trust up there, have had people in the past pretending to be noobies just to mess with this forum. Good luck in your next incarnation, and stay away from player corporations at least until you have a better understanding of the ramifications of joining one :). |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1361
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:55:00 -
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Micheal Epic wrote:I didn't realize our chosen side in Dust would impact EVE.
Geezus, you missed like the whole frakking point of existence of Eve-Dust link.
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
217
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Posted - 2014.02.05 22:29:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Micheal Epic wrote:I didn't realize our chosen side in Dust would impact EVE. Geezus, you missed like the whole frakking point of existence of Eve-Dust link. That he did!
To be fair, I probably would have done the same thing coming from dust, but you'd think he would have chosen the same race as his dust corp.
Welcome to eve OP! New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3625
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Posted - 2014.02.05 23:22:00 -
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Micheal Epic wrote:I play Dust 514 religiously...you may recognize my screen name as I'm a remote explosives menace on the battlefield.
Uhm. No. Because most EVE players just dint give a **** about Dust.
To most they dont even care its there nor would be even conserned if CCP took it down.
So, you are NOT well known. Actually you are the opposite.
As for your post:
1/10.
You could have known that joining a FW corp without even completing tutorials was going to end bad.
Choices and consequences...
You choose to join FW while in an Enemy station...consequence was a nice explosion. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3625
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Posted - 2014.02.05 23:29:00 -
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Micheal Epic wrote:Hey everyone, thanks a lot for offering me help and assistance in this matter. I didn't realize our chosen side in Dust would impact EVE.
What...
The whole 2 games, 1 universe, 1 server and being able to be in same corp didnt even make you think that DUST corp actions do affect EVE?
*sigh*
Glad you were helped. I wouldnt even started as I have no faith in Bunnies. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
63
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Posted - 2014.02.05 23:43:00 -
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I'm guessing he must have joined the allied side of his corp enemy not fully understanding the way the factions work. i.e. his corp is Amarr and he joined Gallente. No one* is dumb enough to join the actual enemy faction and then be surprised at being murdered by their navy.
As for being well known in Dust, I wouldn't say most EVE players don't give a crap about Dust. I'd say that most don't even know it exists at all. But even with spending most of my time in FW I never once did a Dust bombardment. Almost no one does that I know of. One of my corp-mates was talking about it being fun and semi-lucrative, and I actually felt bad for not bothering to try it.
Regardless, problem is either sorted or the OP gave up on their weak-sauce troll, whichever is the case.
*yes I know I am wrong.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4871
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:20:00 -
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There's no need to biomass!
Just leave the corp. That's it. Leave the corp, finish the Aura tutorial and the Career Advancement tutorials that Aura points you at.
Get some instruction from Agony Unleashed. They run the occasional PvP tutorial course, and they will take you out on regular frigate & assault ship roams. You'll need to learn the skills they can teach you before you start your own orbital bombardments.
You'll also need to become familiar with who owns what space and which faction you're allied with before you start flying around with orbital bombardment turrets and ammunition.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:40:00 -
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Most people dont realize/understand what FW is or the mechanics behind it, thus many new players find them self in a situation similar to yours (maybe CCP should add in a warning once your are about to accept an invite for FW corporations?).
As Mara said there is no need to delete your character, but you might want to leave it until you feel ready to deal with the consequences Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
321
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:46:00 -
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Who did poo poo in J'Poll's cornflakes this morning?
Welcome to EVE Michael Epic, or whoever you are when you're reincarnated.
Yeah, gotta watch out for that FW. Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette "Generally Clueless" The Wormhole Sisters of EVE |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3625
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:13:00 -
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Shelby Dusette wrote:Who did poo poo in J'Poll's cornflakes this morning? Welcome to EVE Michael Epic, or whoever you are when you're reincarnated. Yeah, gotta watch out for that FW.
I don't eat cornflakes...a good breakfast is just a very strong cup of coffee and a smoke, body doesn't need more then regular bursts of caffeine and nicotine.
Issue is...this is 1 out of 2 threads on the front page of "whining' / 'raging' because a new player did not read / did not do any research about what he was going to do and then complains about it.
Guess what, 95% of the time something bad happens it's because of something you didn't do (properly).
The other 5% is bugs. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1366
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Posted - 2014.02.06 07:50:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:I don't eat cornflakes...a good breakfast is just a very strong cup of coffee and a smoke, body doesn't need more then regular bursts of caffeine and nicotine.
Amen, brother. Just having that right now and feeling fabulous :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
62
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:01:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:J'Poll wrote:I don't eat cornflakes...a good breakfast is just a very strong cup of coffee and a smoke, body doesn't need more then regular bursts of caffeine and nicotine. Amen, brother. Just having that right now and feeling fabulous :)
Same here! All part of your balanced breakfast!
Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all. |
Tho'mas
Justified Chaos
138
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:10:00 -
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Dkeh Weis wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:J'Poll wrote:I don't eat cornflakes...a good breakfast is just a very strong cup of coffee and a smoke, body doesn't need more then regular bursts of caffeine and nicotine. Amen, brother. Just having that right now and feeling fabulous :) Same here! All part of your balanced breakfast!
Yuck!
Bacon Egg and Cheese biscuit with smoked sausage. THAT is a breakfast. |
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