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Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
650
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:02:00 -
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http://themittani.com/features/ess-emergent-gameplay-lemonade-lemons
this link explains in detail as to how its broken.
so CCP fix it. _______________________ http://i.imgur.com/d9Ee2ik.jpg
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1009
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Posted - 2014.02.09 00:19:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:http://themittani.com/features/ess-emergent-gameplay-lemonade-lemons
this link explains in detail as to how its broken.
so CCP fix it.
Or better yet, just drop it from the game. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
278
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Posted - 2014.02.09 00:32:00 -
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Way to go on original context there. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
324
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Posted - 2014.02.09 00:33:00 -
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Link doesn't even talk about the ESS that much, just about how to lolrat gank people going after them. |
scimichar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
143
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Posted - 2014.02.09 02:25:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:http://themittani.com/features/ess-emergent-gameplay-lemonade-lemons
this link explains in detail as to how its broken.
so CCP fix it.
They'd "fix" it by not allowing ESS to be in anoms. That's not really fixing. :) |
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
652
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:19:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:Link doesn't even talk about the ESS that much, just about how to lolrat gank people going after them. you clearl didnt read.. its how/where people are deploying it so that its impossible to be stolen from and is guarded by NPCs when it shouldnt be _______________________ http://i.imgur.com/d9Ee2ik.jpg
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brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
142
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:21:00 -
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When its making fights like this, http://themittani.com/news/19-goonswarm-carriers-lost-ju-owq It is working as intended as a conflict driver so i doubt you'll see any changes. |
Aebe Amraen
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
37
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Posted - 2014.02.09 05:31:00 -
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I ran into one of these today, down in goon renter space in Period Basis. It's not impossible to steal from, but it certainly makes it a lot more work than I was willing to put in. It makes it difficult to steal them with one character, and moderately annoying to steal if you have some friends with you.
Probably unintended, maybe slotted to be "fixed," certainly interesting. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2644
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:23:00 -
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Funny
I thought mobile structures were meant to introduce new totally awesome ways of totally fekking up your day.
Working as intended? Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
267
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:09:00 -
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I thought this was a sandbox? you know where you could do anything you want and you are actually encouraged to be creative? I feel like if CCP changes this it's pissing itself again.. Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1431
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:29:00 -
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posting in TMC advertising thread ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16669
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:37:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:I thought this was a sandbox? you know where you could do anything you want and you are actually encouraged to be creative? I feel like if CCP changes this it's pissing itself again.. That sentiment, is one of the reasons I'm so against the 5% nerf. I love the sandbox and yes, please give us tools. But don't do silly things in an excuse to introduce them.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1477
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:43:00 -
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Not sure if thats broken... CCP always add a patch where you cant put them down in sites |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
325
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Posted - 2014.02.09 11:24:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:WarFireV wrote:Link doesn't even talk about the ESS that much, just about how to lolrat gank people going after them. you clearl didnt read.. its how/where people are deploying it so that its impossible to be stolen from and is guarded by NPCs when it shouldnt be
That is what I just said. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
647
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Posted - 2014.02.09 12:02:00 -
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So how long did it take to turn from "designed to encourage conflict", to "a straight boost to nullsec coalitions income"?
Sometimes, the tin foil hat really calls out.
Did CCP "REALLY " not see this happening?
It seems that for everyone else the idea occurred within seconds, followed by "where is the nastiest place we can put it"
So now completely useless for it's declared purpose and simply a new Passive income source.
Nice..
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Chirjo Durruti
AEGIS Innovations
13
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Posted - 2014.02.09 13:56:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:http://themittani.com/features/ess-emergent-gameplay-lemonade-lemons
this link explains in detail as to how its broken.
so CCP fix it. One fix coming up - NPCs now steal from nearby ESS. HOWTO: No More Tears (solo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdA4ciUrH-k If you can get me a better crew than THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrtQ9AdoM0 convo me. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
457
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:46:00 -
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I was under the impression that putting them inside anom entrances was a bug. |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid
54
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:48:00 -
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it's still easy to steal from just go in something that can tank 2k dps from the rats with a micro jump drive to get rid of the point once you've stolen the isk just because you're lazy don't mean ccp should change things to make it easy for you |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
258
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:12:00 -
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Hey this conflict driver is driving conflict. Get it out of the game! |
Bullet Therapist
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:13:00 -
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One of the most common posts offered as a rebuttal to players angry about a particular mechanic that they view as abusive is that they, themselves, have access to the same mechanics, and with proper planning and organization, they can use it. The utilization of game mechanics in an unanticipated and surprising way is the essence of what makes eve a great game.
I say let its remain as it is, if someone takes the time to research and prune the anomaly to set up a trap, then a ganker can organize a fleet to steal from the ESS. |
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Vizvig
Savage Blizzard Bright Side of Death
149
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:28:00 -
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So now MOBs guarding sacrificial altar for them.
nice |
Viceorvirtue
The Hatchery Team Liquid
41
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Posted - 2014.02.10 01:26:00 -
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Its important to note that this was able to happen because the ESS was not located at a fully spawned anomaly. If it had been, the locals would not have had to form up in response to the stealth bomber trying to steal from the ESS since the rats would just kill it. The only problem with this I see is from the perspective of the locals not having to defend their space. Sure you can still clear the anom but for the average solo person roaming in nullsec hoping to maybe force the locals to respond, this really prevents a lot of content from being created. Then again if I lost nearly 20 carriers trying to defend an ESS I would e trying to find a way to reap its benefits without really having to defend it myself as well. |
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
655
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Posted - 2014.02.10 03:16:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Hey this conflict driver is driving conflict. Get it out of the game! actually your mistaken.. with the mechanics its completely stopping cloakers and intys from even attempting to steal form them and will force people to have a gang size fleet or bigger to be abel to steal.. and that dosnt really make sense stealing is supposed to be "from under the nose" as it were. _______________________ http://i.imgur.com/d9Ee2ik.jpg
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Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
655
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Posted - 2014.02.10 03:17:00 -
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Viceorvirtue wrote:Its important to note that this was able to happen because the ESS was not located at a fully spawned anomaly. If it had been, the locals would not have had to form up in response to the stealth bomber trying to steal from the ESS since the rats would just kill it. The only problem with this I see is from the perspective of the locals not having to defend their space. Sure you can still clear the anom but for the average solo person roaming in nullsec hoping to maybe force the locals to respond, this really prevents a lot of content from being created. Then again if I lost nearly 20 carriers trying to defend an ESS I would e trying to find a way to reap its benefits without really having to defend it myself as well.
exactly! putting it inside an anom just means that locals can just laugh at attempts to steal from the ESS insted of actually defending it. _______________________ http://i.imgur.com/d9Ee2ik.jpg
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Captain StringfellowHawk
The Riot Formation Fatal Ascension
90
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Posted - 2014.02.10 03:36:00 -
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Leave it like it is, go after the ones that such a Highly and inventive player as yourself can handle. EVE has always been about pushing the envelope and inventing new tactics, we as eve players do this constantly. Roam as a group and steal it, or go after ones that such a skilled pilot as yourself can handle.
P.S. Nice advertising of Mittens site, more views and commentators always welcomed :) |
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
656
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Posted - 2014.02.10 05:43:00 -
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(new news) how is being able to anchor an ESS at 0km on the sun; so when you warp to it you get slingshot away at tens of thousands of kilometers a second; NOT in any way broken?
they are completely broken and need fixing correctly.
Edit. yes players are anchoring them at Suns now just for this effect. _______________________ http://i.imgur.com/d9Ee2ik.jpg
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Vhaine Vhindiscar
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:29:00 -
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Make the ESS a hackable part of the Ihub...where all system upgrade belong in the first damn place. Problem solved.
Then, drastically increase the payout and make it all LP. Tired of inflation killing the risk/reward from nullsec. While we're at it, increase the base spawn rate of sanctums, havens, for. hubs, for. rally points but +1 per true sec level. Deklein is like a rich suburban country club these days. Miffy is getting peckish. The wait on good tee times is to damned HIGH! |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
460
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:39:00 -
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Thinking about this logically, rats should attack the ESS and destroy it.
Why would they leave it there? The whole point on the thing is to keep track of their own deaths. |
Le Ngoc Han
Aegis Eidolon Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:42:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:WarFireV wrote:Link doesn't even talk about the ESS that much, just about how to lolrat gank people going after them. you clearl didnt read.. its how/where people are deploying it so that its impossible to be stolen from and is guarded by NPCs when it shouldnt be
It is your opinion that it shouldn't be guarded by NPCs. I think the ESS is working as intended. |
Le Ngoc Han
Aegis Eidolon Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:44:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:Thinking about this logically, rats should attack the ESS and destroy it.
Why would they leave it there? The whole point on the thing is to keep track of their own deaths.
If you want to talk logically then rats would also destroy your pod after they destroyed your ship. They also would destroy an MTU that was deployed. But you really cannot apply logic to everything in this game can you? |
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