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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:48:00 -
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yes
what was the question again?
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Coltaine Crow
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:48:00 -
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It has been my observation (confirmed by others more experienced than I) that Caldari ships (Raven for example) are far more common than the others. This must be for a good reason, as some folks have played this for long enough to have tried many other ships. It has even been said (in online chat) that I won't see alot of Minmatar ships in low security space, because they're at a distinct disadvantage (regardless of skills). It has been estimated that over 50% of the ships in low security space are Caldari (ignoring pilot's race). I cannot imagine this was the intent of the game developers. So, in your personal observations is this true? How can we encourage pilots to fly the other ships?
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:53:00 -
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Yeah, I see loads of sniping Ravens at gates in lowsec. And in fleet battles in 0.0 I hardly see anything else! __________________ Inappropriate link description. --Jorauk mods - pwning sigs since 1943 |
Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:54:00 -
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Why would you ignore the pilots race? It's actually a rather important factor as (in my experience) most people tend to use the ships of their own race, and caldari is by far the race with the most amount of players in it.
Unfortunately, the amount of t2 ship bpo:s do (as far as I know) not reflect this, making those ships more expensive and the bpo:s vastly harder to get than for example minmatar t2 ship bpo:s, the only notable exception that I know about being the vagabond.
(Note that I don't have access to real server stats etc so the above is based on what I believe to be true.) _____________________________________ meep meep |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:56:00 -
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there are vastly more caldari main characters than other races. comparative to that, the numbers of caldari ships are actully quite small. there are more caldari flying other races than other races flying caldari
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 06/04/2006 21:57:21 ^^ you're FOTM already - what more do you want?
edit: too slow. that was at kurren
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Professor McFly Yeah, I see loads of sniping Ravens at gates in lowsec. And in fleet battles in 0.0 I hardly see anything else!
qfs quoted for sarcasm.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:57:00 -
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YES!! Gallante ships need to be upgraded to SUPERUBERNOOBERWHOOPER!!! WOO!!
Everything evens out... Ravens get blown up all the time. Megas, Geddons, *duct tape and string*s (Minmitar BS... couldn't think of the name) do too. Everything is fine. --- --- --- ---
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Brastagi on 06/04/2006 21:59:09
Originally by: Professor McFly Yeah, I see loads of sniping Ravens at gates in lowsec.
Errr... is spewing missiles count as sniping? I thought the definition of sniping is using bullets.
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Coltaine Crow
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:00:00 -
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I ignored pilot races, because I didn't want to suggest there were too many Caldari pilots. This isn't a race topic as much as a ship topic. So many pilots that are not Caldari, fly Caldari ships for a reason. <-- Docking request denied. --> |
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Brastagi Edited by: Brastagi on 06/04/2006 21:59:09
Originally by: Professor McFly Yeah, I see loads of sniping Ravens at gates in lowsec.
Errr... is spewing missiles count as sniping? I thought the definition of sniping is using bullets.
He was being sarcastic.
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phredrik
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:01:00 -
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Honest none sarcastic answer is that all races have ships that are good and ships that are not so good. Some ships are better for different things. Caldari is good for somethings but not others. Min seems to be a bit of a red headed stepchild in eve but still has some really good ships.
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Jennifae
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:07:00 -
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I don't understand the answers to these types of topics more than anything.
No one's BS's are "unkillable." All the tools to kill anything are ingame right now.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Coltaine Crow I ignored pilot races, because I didn't want to suggest there were too many Caldari pilots. This isn't a race topic as much as a ship topic. So many pilots that are not Caldari, fly Caldari ships for a reason.
and more caldari fly other races for reasons
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:11:00 -
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(for PvP combat, where good means "totally awesome and known for their pwnage")
The Caldari have one good frigate, two good cruisers, one good HAC, and two good battleships.
The Gallente have one good frigate, three good cruisers, two good HACs, and two good battleships.
The Minmatar have one good frigate, two good cruisers, one good HAC, and one good battleship.
The Amarr have one good frigate, one good cruiser, one good HAC, and two good battleships.
I don't see Caldari here as overpowered.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:14:00 -
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Which Amarr Frigate is good again?
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:15:00 -
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its not the ships but the "I WIN" skill choice of missles
every other race has to devote more SP than the caldari, wich if you so choose, can just do missles, and do very well.
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Central Scrutinizer
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:18:00 -
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Ravens are definitely the most common ships for PvE, but thats because they can deal 100% of <whatever NPCs> weakest damage type.
In PVP, the only problem I have is that with precision torps, ravens have a one size fits all weapon. Raven is, without a doubt, the best short range combat BS.
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Cyleth
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Which Amarr Frigate is good again?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Which Amarr Frigate is good again?
Probably the punisher... though you're right. Its really not used that often.
Neither is the Incursus, so I guess I'll edit it.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:23:00 -
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Wasn't this 'Are Gallente ships overpowered?' last year?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Which Amarr Frigate is good again?
never tried to fly it (nearest i;ve got to amarr is the succubus and executioner shuttles), but i've heard good things about the punisher
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sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari (for PvP combat, where good means "totally awesome and known for their pwnage")
The Caldari have one good frigate, two good cruisers, one good HAC, and two good battleships.
The Gallente have no good frigates, three good cruisers vexor, t-rax. don't think any of the others get in , two good HACs you mean one good HAC and an obscenely good HAC two good battleships. i personally would contest the mega, but i suppose its OK
The Minmatar have one good frigate, two good cruisers i only rate the rupture personally, one good HAC, and one good battleship. got shadted a bit, didn't they. phoon boost should be nice though
The Amarr have no good frigates, one good cruiser, one good HAC, and two good battleships.
I don't see Caldari here as overpowered.
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard Which Caldari hac is the one you're referring to out of interest?
Cerberus, obviously.
Originally by: HippoKing
three good cruisers vexor, t-rax. don't think any of the others get in , two good HACs you mean one good HAC and an obscenely good HAC two good battleships. i personally would contest the mega, but i suppose its OK
Thorax, Celestis, and Vexor are all good. Megathron is a good battleship--there's nothing BAD about it and its used all the time.
Originally by: HippoKing
The Minmatar have one good frigate, two good cruisers i only rate the rupture personally, one good HAC, and one good battleship. got shadted a bit, didn't they. phoon boost should be nice though
Rupture and Stabber I counted.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: HippoKing
three good cruisers vexor, t-rax. don't think any of the others get in , two good HACs you mean one good HAC and an obscenely good HAC two good battleships. i personally would contest the mega, but i suppose its OK
Thorax, Celestis, and Vexor are all good. Megathron is a good battleship--there's nothing BAD about it and its used all the time.
its always struck me than a dampa-BB would completely own a celestis the mega is a good sniper, but isn't the blaster boat it should be. Hope the blaster changes deal with that.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: HippoKing The Minmatar have one good frigate, two good cruisers i only rate the rupture personally, one good HAC, and one good battleship. got shafted a bit, didn't they. phoon boost should be nice though
Rupture and Stabber I counted.
i just don't think the stabber can do anything better than the rupty really. and i wouldn't be particularly scared of one in any situation to be honest.
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: welsh wizard Which Caldari hac is the one you're referring to out of interest?
Cerberus, obviously.
The Eagles a top pvp ship too aslong as you don't restrict yourself to ranged combat.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: HippoKing
three good cruisers vexor, t-rax. don't think any of the others get in , two good HACs you mean one good HAC and an obscenely good HAC two good battleships. i personally would contest the mega, but i suppose its OK
Thorax, Celestis, and Vexor are all good. Megathron is a good battleship--there's nothing BAD about it and its used all the time.
its always struck me than a dampa-BB would completely own a celestis the mega is a good sniper, but isn't the blaster boat it should be. Hope the blaster changes deal with that.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: HippoKing The Minmatar have one good frigate, two good cruisers i only rate the rupture personally, one good HAC, and one good battleship. got shafted a bit, didn't they. phoon boost should be nice though
Rupture and Stabber I counted.
i just don't think the stabber can do anything better than the rupty really. and i wouldn't be particularly scared of one in any situation to be honest.
The deimos is a terrible pvp HAC. The stabber is like a vaga-lite.
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I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada its not the ships but the "I WIN" skill choice of missles
every other race has to devote more SP than the caldari, wich if you so choose, can just do missles, and do very well.
the amount of sp needed for missiles is the same as for turrets. your arguement only works if you are planning to fly a caldari bs only (which is pointless) - in which case you inititally save time training for it. in the end caldari and minmatar need to train both skill trees, while galante and amarr have it good with one. ---------------------------------------------
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: welsh wizard Which Caldari hac is the one you're referring to out of interest?
Cerberus, obviously.
The Eagles a top pvp ship too aslong as you don't restrict yourself to ranged combat.
being outdamaged by a thorax 4tw?
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: welsh wizard Which Caldari hac is the one you're referring to out of interest?
Cerberus, obviously.
The Eagles a top pvp ship too aslong as you don't restrict yourself to ranged combat.
being outdamaged by a thorax 4tw?
Are we talking about damage only here or which ship would win a 1v1?
Blaster Eagle > Deimos/Thorax
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