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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:30:00 -
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Roux Michon wrote:As someone who enjoys Mining, I really enjoy the Venture ship. You can move on to a Hulk, or even into Mining Ops with an Orca if you wish. The mining 'hole' is very deep. I still do all my solo mining in a venture.
Hulk? Oh lord.
When flying a hulk, name it "Please Gank Me". It will make sorting out the dscan a little easier. Do miners really give out this sort of advise? If you must mine in a T2 hull and don't want to use a Skiff, the Mackinaw is the only reasonable choice. It at least has a decent tank assuming you actually fit tank modules. Do a good job tanking it and we would need 4 T2 catalyst pilots to kill it. And bonus, it has a larger ore hold than the Hulk. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1145
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:32:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote: They get ganked regardless, if they have thrown money at that non existent "permit" they become even more of a target, and will get random crap about a silly rule they broke spewed at them. Like "unproperly tanked shuttle"
Lies and slander. We do not gank code compliant miners. Buy a permit, don't mine AFK, we don't bug you. The only way shuttles get ganked is by flying them on AP otherwise known as AFK. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
483
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:32:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Iseballa Orti wrote:what do you suggest? I am able to make about 500-700k ISK in about 10 minutes by mining. I suggest buy a GTC from CCP and sell the resulting PLEX on the market. Jump in some cheap T1 frigates and go have fun shooting stuff other than rocks. Shooting rocks is the most boring pastime there is in gaming. If you can't afford a GTC, figure out how to scam for ISK. That'll get you much higher return rates than your current income. I'd also suggest looking to move out of your npc corp into a player run corp. the social aspect of the game is far more rewarding than solo mining. Although I support jumping in T1 frigs and doing some NFG pvp I would still consider how well you can fly the frig. If you have been training for mining you may need to tweek your skill points and training to fly a combat frig a little better to allow yourself a chance.
Or join a corp that teaches this like red vs blue or brave newbies or similar. Try to do it ALL on your own may end in frustration. |
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
State War Academy Caldari State
483
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:32:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Iseballa Orti wrote:what do you suggest? I am able to make about 500-700k ISK in about 10 minutes by mining. I suggest buy a GTC from CCP and sell the resulting PLEX on the market. Jump in some cheap T1 frigates and go have fun shooting stuff other than rocks. Shooting rocks is the most boring pastime there is in gaming. If you can't afford a GTC, figure out how to scam for ISK. That'll get you much higher return rates than your current income. I'd also suggest looking to move out of your npc corp into a player run corp. the social aspect of the game is far more rewarding than solo mining. Although I support jumping in T1 frigs and doing some NFG pvp I would still consider how well you can fly the frig. If you have been training for mining you may need to tweek your skill points and training to fly a combat frig a little better to allow yourself a chance.
Or join a corp that teaches this like red vs blue or brave newbies or similar. Try to do it ALL on your own may end in frustration. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10133
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:34:00 -
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No amount of bling modules attached to any mining barge will protect you outside of highsec if you plan on being solo.
There is a recent 3bil ISK hulk lowsec killmail fit with some rather blingy modules to prove that.
Mining is an activity best done with friends..with the appropriate permits of course. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Chimay
NovaTech Academy Against ALL Anomalies
7
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:46:00 -
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Hello Iseballa Orti,
I too starting EVE out mining and I still do it depending on my mood.
I'm going to review with you a game plan if mining is your calling.
Barge is the next step. Continue to mine and save isk. Train the related skills while you wait. Takes a bit of overhead to get in to mining, as you've noticed the cost of barges aren't cheap for someone starting out.
Once you get in to barge I recommend you pause your mining training and flip to the following -Ice harvesting -Gas Mining
Both are easy/quick to cap the skills in, both of these skills can net you a great deal more profit at times.
Now That you can fly a barge, mine ice, harvest gas. Your in a postion now to have options.
This part is critical, the next step is you want to find a nullsec corp. Some corps even provide the ship and equipment for you to use! There are plenty of mining corps around in null that would love to have a miner in training join their ranks. Depending on the situation if POS fuel demand is high and they are deep in null, you can make 40-60M an hour mining ice there. This solo of course.
But that's really not where you want to be, you want to be in a mining OP with max bonus, and protection. There is money to be made in the field but its about taking risks and finding the correct area to target the market.
Trit can now be mined in null sec, the value of trit in the area I live is higher then anything else. Most miner go for trit yielding ore because the payout is really high in the area because of the demand.
This are things you want to discuss when locating a corp in nullsec on what the market looks like and what you can expect to maker per hour. Every area will be different!
When I started mining, Batam was the only mining frigate, next level from there was the Osprey, then barge. I'm not sure if the osprey could out mine a Venture but might be worth researching.
While your at it research gas harvesting in null, there was a thread I read today on the first page today that reviewed some numbers. For the cost of the ship paired with the risk you take, I see it as a really great opportunity for you for nice isk and a risk to keep things more alive and interesting. You might find you enjoy the game much more living closer to the edge.
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Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
139
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:07:00 -
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Iseballa Orti wrote:Hey guys, I just started playing, and I have a venture with two Cu Vapor laser miners and two drones on it. The CPU and Power Grid are maxed out, and I have no way of defending myself so I'm pretty much stuck in high spec space. Does anyone have any suggestions on a ship I could upgrade to that's a little cheaper than the 29 million ISK mining barge. Thanks for the help. Train for a cloak and refit your Venture so you can fit the cloak too.
Just a basic cloak, nothing fancy like the CovertOps or anything.
This will increase your survival rate by a lot, though you may need to take some time to get used to using it properly.
Safes are your friend, Ventures Align/Warp fast, use dscan (short 360, think 100k range though it depends on how close your working belt is to other celestials), be gone before anyone can show to gank you, when you get to your safe, cloak and wait it out or align to a gate while cloaked and then GTFO to find another belt/grav.
Depending on where you are mining, treat NPCs the same as PC gankers since your Venture is squishy and will pop easily.
Remember, you're a rabbit, rabbits don't fight to survive, they run to survive. Alpha Prey doesn't get to be Alpha Prey by fighting, they get there by running and hiding, be patient and do what is necessary to evade your pursuer even if that means AFK cloaking in a rolling safe for 20 minutes after mentioning in local that you'll be gone for hours. MCRMI Now Recruiting for Minmatar FW and General Merc Work |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
572
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:14:00 -
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Ever notice how boring bored people are? Swap the mining drones for a pair of scout drones. Might want to use a med slot for a shield extender. Stay in the higher high sec systems.
Did anyone notice how the thrilling players suggest you just go out and "buy" ships...as though they make themselves...no ore required...no alloys...just shop. Mining is so worthless to the game....really.
Ask the easily bored. (Don't worry guys. You won't be using the fat crayons much longer.) Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
James Nikolas Tesla
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
88
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:30:00 -
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OP, don't listen to this above scammer. If you do get bumped around just log out.
As for your mining career, you are going to have to do a lot of grinding in your Venture. Once you get your barge, you will be making a lot more money to invest in a Cruiser or something to rat in when mining gets a little boring. My Retriever gets me about ~3mil ISK/20 mins with moderate skills.
JNT Don't tease the Rats, and if you do, GTFO of the system. Unless you are dumb like me and try to ninja some more ore while an HIC sneaks up on you.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4147
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:05:00 -
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Iseballa Orti wrote:what do you suggest? I am able to make about 500-700k ISK in about 10 minutes by mining.
I suggest you do what you like.
There are hundreds of things you can do to occupy your time. If you want to mine, go for it. It's not great income, but it can be done semi AFK to pay for a second acct that you use for more fun adventures once you have the skills for a barge.
You only really need enough isk for what you need. A lot of people make isk for the sake of making isk. Which, again, is fine if that's what you want to do. But for most things, a big pile of money in your wallet that you are not using equals a big pile of wasted time in game. There is just so much else you can be doing with that time.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
425
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:00:00 -
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Love all the "i think it's boring so you're stupid for doing it" replies here. Never have to go far to find self centered people.
If you don't want a barge, you'll need to make the Venture Better. Core skills like engineering and cpu management will help with that. A barge is the only step up from the venture for mining though.
And don't fall for that "permit" scam. If people start harassing you, go to a different system. Don't mine in populated areas, and the "pvpers" (laugh) won't bother you. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3157
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:34:00 -
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Any ship you can fit turrets on can use Miner I / II or even Modulated Deep Core Miner II. However you will have to mine into a jetcan, which is risky.
Procurer is the bottom-rung mining barge for price, and it only requires one strip miner.
[Venture, Advanced] Mining Laser Upgrade II
Medium Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II
[empty high slot] Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Kernite Mining Crystal II Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Kernite Mining Crystal II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
I've done level 1 combat missions in this Venture after replacing the MLU with a Damage Control II, but a combat ship is preferable. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1152
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Posted - 2014.02.11 04:23:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:OP, don't listen to this above scammer. If you do get bumped around just log out.
This is the best advice evar! If you get a little unwanted touching, quit playing. You'll be PvP'ing with the leet gods of nullsec in no time with that beta male advice. Often seen in local is some take on this dialog:
p1> Did you see the way that guy logged off? p2> Freakin' epic man. p1> That guy is my hero, the way he can just, quit playing like that p2> Yeah, that is some leet logging off skill he has.
I wonder if this advice can apply to other situations?
"If somone 0.01isk's your order just log out." "See a scam in local just log out." "If you see your alliance is getting creamed on the undock of your staging system just log out" "If someone starts mining the same asteroid as you just log out."
Yeah, I think it works great. You're really onto something with this. "Come to Eve, if someone messes with you, just logout" would be an excellent marking slogan. Maybe put it in "Be a Little ***** in a Video Game" magazine or something. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
482
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Posted - 2014.02.11 10:27:00 -
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You could stop trolling yourself with mining and actually make money worth the time while playing the game! :D EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1069
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Posted - 2014.02.11 11:04:00 -
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Rokh
Damage Control II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Put a flight of Hornets and a flight of Mining Drones in it.
You'll have to mine into a can but then have a mate haul it for you. Most things in this game are like sex - More fun with others than with yourself. "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
482
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Posted - 2014.02.11 11:51:00 -
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lol mine into a can. then destroy it.
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:28:00 -
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Seems like OP decided on RvB. *slow claps* No seriously, that was a good decision. |
Alastair Ormand
Badger Badger Badger Apocalypse Now.
35
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Posted - 2014.02.12 10:27:00 -
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Billy McCandless wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:You're going to do this to a new player? Give him/her a chance to establish themselves first. He'd be shooting them as soon as they undock for the first time if it weren't a bannable offense. And thank god it is. why? Otherwise there'd be no new players coming to the game. They'd rage quit as they were podded as they undocked. |
Jared Lennox
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
3
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:55:00 -
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I'm too afraid that this post is going to be snipped or deleted or censored whatever. That's what happened to me since 2 days on this forums. But thanks for bringing this up mate. Cheers on that.
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html |
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