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Naoru Kozan
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
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Posted - 2014.02.13 04:23:00 -
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Solo pvp is dead. Long live solo pvp. |
Ciba Lexlulu
Stay Frosty.
38
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Posted - 2014.02.13 10:04:00 -
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Solo in FW region means T3 OGB + cloaked Griffin + T1 frig logi cloaked inside plex. You need two additional accounts to do it rite.
With these properly set up, you are on your way to build a l33t solo pvp-er KB |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
118
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Posted - 2014.02.13 12:45:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Shelom Severasse wrote: so how do we give incentives to get more 1v1s for the people that actually enjoy them and arent f1 monkeys or kill mail whores?
(Not directed at you personally) Quit flying OP solo boats like Hawks and Sentinels and then whine about "solo is dead". Instead, fly something the other guy thinks he can beat and you'll get more solo fights.
This is so true. There are so many solo pilots out there but you know what they do when they see a solo hawk/sentinel/harpy/whatever? They say "f**k this" and move on. Usually, they will have a proper fight against a non-op ship a few minutes later. |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:41:00 -
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1vmany is way better then pure 1v1s anyways. If you are getting blobbed (and losing) you are doing something wrong btw. |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour Caldari State Capturing
865
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:16:00 -
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Quote:1vmany is way better then pure 1v1s anyways. If you are getting blobbed (and losing) you are doing something wrong btw.
The issue I have with most of the 1 v many posts is that the VAST majority of the people doing 1 v many are not 'true solo'. They are often boosted to the max with nice and expensively fitted ships.
Getting blobbed and losing is par for the course if you are not boosted and expensive fit. This kind of attitude is what a lot of people complain about when the leet solo pvp'er come and say hello. Using more than one account is not solo.
I don't have a problem with people doing the boosting/alt pvp just stop claiming you are solo. I also feel people should clarify if they mean solo - as in I'm by myself and want to fight or 1v1 as they are two totally different things. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:20:00 -
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No, if you want to 1vmany without links/implants/expensive fits you just cant fly evrything, otherwise its fairly doable. Flying a ab rifter (example) and then complaining is daft, you have to fly the right ship for the job. You can easily 1vmany in a heretic/flycatcher on the frig lvl and the cynabal/vagabond/nomen/ishtar or even the stabber are all viable ships for cruisers.
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Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour Caldari State Capturing
865
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:27:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:No, if you want to 1vmany without links/implants/expensive fits you just cant fly evrything, otherwise its fairly doable. Flying a ab rifter (example) and then complaining is daft, you have to fly the right ship for the job. You can easily 1vmany in a heretic/flycatcher on the frig lvl and the cynabal/vagabond/nomen/ishtar or even the stabber are all viable ships for cruisers.
Very true. It means your ship selection is very limited. however the 1 v many scenario in those ships are even more lopsided and have a small engagement profile as most semi-organised fleets have boosts of their own and will whelp a true solo pilot. A true solo pilots best result is often warp in, realise the fleet is boosted, kill any potential tackle and run.
That being said 1 v many is by far way way more fun than 1v1 as you often have more 'opportunity' to affect the fight by tactic selections etc than just plugging two ships together and seeing what the outcome is.
I was just pointing out however that there are way more people out there claiming solo pvp in 'normal' ships that are boosted to the max in expensive stuff. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.02.14 10:24:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:No, if you want to 1vmany without links/implants/expensive fits you just cant fly evrything, otherwise its fairly doable. Flying a ab rifter (example) and then complaining is daft, you have to fly the right ship for the job. You can easily 1vmany in a heretic/flycatcher on the frig lvl and the cynabal/vagabond/nomen/ishtar or even the stabber are all viable ships for cruisers.
Sure thing, if you-¦re going to fight whole fleets solo then go ahead and get any advantage you can get, drugs, implants, shiny ships with faction fittings, even boosts (even though I really REALLY hate them).
But dont use all those things and then expect to get a real 1v1. It-¦s not going to happen and thats a good thing. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Spaceship Samurai
37
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Posted - 2014.02.14 11:04:00 -
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The very fact that there's you means solo pvp isnt dead.
In my opinion, your real question should be: "Where do I find people who enjoy 1vs1 fights like me?"
I don't really have an answer, but I'd be shying from known low-sec grounds. Mostly blobs there with links. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1212
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Posted - 2014.02.14 11:15:00 -
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djentropy Ovaert wrote:Loraine Gess wrote:ECM is "unfair"? Tough ****, enjoy being beaten into submission while you're helpless. My gang is too big? Wah, wah, I motivated a dozen pilots to fly under me, and your ridiculous self-posturing does nothing for your utility.
THIS. So well said. This character is two months old, and I already have a list of "pro" players (very active killboards, over 5 years old) who have cried about the fact that I jammed them while others reduced them to dust is somehow "unfair." All of this from a T1 Griffin. With about 1,000 EHP. If you are unable to counter a single ship that can generally be alpha killed by anything - and then cry that things are "unfair" - you just fail at Eve. The tears from "pro" PVP players who allow themselves to be caught by a superior force and then whine about how if it was a "1v1" fight they would have won - the most epic lulz in all of Eve. Well, it was not a 1vs1 fight, you got spanked, now type "gf" into local and plot some revenge. i too love to ***** to others kills The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Jori McKie
Friends Of Harassment
118
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:28:00 -
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djentropy Ovaert wrote:Loraine Gess wrote:ECM is "unfair"? Tough ****, enjoy being beaten into submission while you're helpless. My gang is too big? Wah, wah, I motivated a dozen pilots to fly under me, and your ridiculous self-posturing does nothing for your utility.
THIS. So well said. This character is two months old, and I already have a list of "pro" players (very active killboards, over 5 years old) who have cried about the fact that I jammed them while others reduced them to dust is somehow "unfair." All of this from a T1 Griffin. With about 1,000 EHP. If you are unable to counter a single ship that can generally be alpha killed by anything - and then cry that things are "unfair" - you just fail at Eve. The tears from "pro" PVP players who allow themselves to be caught by a superior force and then whine about how if it was a "1v1" fight they would have won - the most epic lulz in all of Eve. Well, it was not a 1vs1 fight, you got spanked, now type "gf" into local and plot some revenge.
I like your attitude a lot but regarding ECM you are wrong. In short ECM in 1vsX up to the scale of roughly 5v5 is broken like hell. Anything with more than 10peeps on both side 10v10 etc. ECM is more or less useless and in largescale it does not matter at all. I'm calling that broken.
Most good solo/smallscale pilots know that of course and won't engage if a/more than one Griffin, Blackbird, Falcon etc. is visible or choose to call in friends to deal with that ECM stuff.
Edit: There are some fringe cases like 1xGriffin+1xFrig with no friends coming in, you can deal with that solo in a special fitted frig. |
Jasmine Panzer
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.15 16:49:00 -
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Solo and 1v1 are two completely different things.
If you love to fly solo, by all means do it! Your opponents may do as they wish, so just broaden your engagement envelope to include 1v many and you'll get all the fights you want!
For example, and assuming he's out for the pew pew, the same guy who may be wary to engage a frig 1v1 will very probably engage a dessie or af if he's with 1 or 2 friends (all in frigs). Dessie/af v 2-3 frigs is just as balanced as frig v frig, it's just that people are usually braver (or maybe 'derpier') when they're not alone.
Additionally, 'same ship class' 1v1s tend to often have an almost predetermined outcome based on the whole rock/paper/scissors thing, while 'one big ship' v 'several small ships' allows for many different outcomes. If only for the fact that in a 1v1 there's either a winner and a loser or a draw, in 1 v many you can kill 'em all, die with zero kills, kill 1 and run, kill 2 and run, kill 2 and the third runs, etc... Try it it's loads of fun!
Small tip: in a 1 v many a warp disruptor/scrambler is not always necessary, cuz even if they're doomed people usually dont like to 'play chicken' and warp off with their mates still on the field - even when it would be a rational decision. So consider freeing up a midslot to give yourself an extra edge when you fight outnumbered. |
Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
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Posted - 2014.02.16 04:55:00 -
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I have been solo pvp'ing for years...its is fine.
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
215
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Posted - 2014.02.16 09:08:00 -
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solo pvp is for fat nerds who enjoy dying alone. |
Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
367
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:28:00 -
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To my own surprise solo PVP is completely alive as I found out the recent days. You just need to look for it at the right places. |
God's Apples
Aunenen Civil Liberties Union
316
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Posted - 2014.02.18 02:57:00 -
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1v1s are possibly the most boring thing to do. You know the outcome before the fight even starts if you're a half decent player. The fight is won in eft. Fighting 1 v many actually showcases your skill and are way more fun. If you complain about getting blobbed you either fly AB t1 frigs or are terrible or are both. The majority of my solo kills are without links (unless flying something expensive or that needs links to work), with very cheap implants (if you think implants are cheating, someone spent 3 bill to make themselves go marginally faster and if that's their choice so be it), and I always try and use drugs because it's 5 mill a fight for a huge increase in performance. If you think drugs are cheating I will not try and argue with you because it's hopeless.
/shitpost |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
928
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Posted - 2014.02.18 03:19:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:solo pvp is for fat nerds who enjoy dying alone.
You're not alone - You have your twitch stream viewers to keep you company.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
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