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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 16:29:00 -
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I am pretty new have about 6 days left on my 14 day trial so far enjoying EVE and mad it has taken me to long to get around to it. one thing that I have found is I enjoy the more complex harder MMO's (ie: AO TSW) but good lord the EvE's learning curve makes those games look like rolling hills lol but I do enjoy making my brain work.
Anyway back to my Point. I'm not good at PVP never have been in the 15yrs of playing MMO's can deal with open world pvp but usually try to avoid it.
Is there a way to play EVE mostly PVE with the occasional Pirate attack?
Dose that mostly mean that I will be trying to mine, explore, ect in highsec space only?
Are there battles with NPC Fleets? are they as good as out in null space?
If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE?
Thank you in advanced for your input.
P.S. so far with all the lurking about the forums it looks like EVE has a pretty great community with lots of Vets with good information, Thank you to all of you a good community is hard to find here on the interwebs :P |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
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Posted - 2014.02.11 16:41:00 -
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Yes, you can stay in highsec and just PVE. However, other players are free to engage in PvP with you, whether you like it or not. Some people are very good at avoiding PvP encounters, but nobody is completely safe from them. The mechanics are different in high, low, null, and wormholes, but non-consensual spaceship violence is encouraged in all these areas. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.11 16:59:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:I am pretty new have about 6 days left on my 14 day trial so far enjoying EVE and mad it has taken me to long to get around to it. one thing that I have found is I enjoy the more complex harder MMO's (ie: AO TSW) but good lord the EvE's learning curve makes those games look like rolling hills lol but I do enjoy making my brain work.
Anyway back to my Point. I'm not good at PVP never have been in the 15yrs of playing MMO's can deal with open world pvp but usually try to avoid it.
Is there a way to play EVE mostly PVE with the occasional Pirate attack?
Dose that mostly mean that I will be trying to mine, explore, ect in highsec space only?
Are there battles with NPC Fleets? are they as good as out in null space?
If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE?
Thank you in advanced for your input.
P.S. so far with all the lurking about the forums it looks like EVE has a pretty great community with lots of Vets with good information, Thank you to all of you a good community is hard to find here on the interwebs :P
I would also like to add that while the Forums can be a great source of information... you're just as likely to be mocked, trolled, humiliated and shunned. The trick is realizing that most people mean well whether they admit it or not. Also, everything is PvP, everything. http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 16:59:00 -
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Adding to what Haedonism Bot said:
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:Are there battles with NPC Fleets? are they as good as out in null space? The big NPC battles are called incursions. As for "as good" - that is of course a very subjective question. Battles between player fleets are very different. Player fleet battles can be much, much bigger than incursions (you'll never see 1000 players in an incursion) and are highly unpredictable, while incursions are scripted.
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE? The vast majority of skills that you'll learn for PvE will be useful in PvP. In general, once you are a year old, you aren't really limited by your character, but much more by the ship you are flying. And ships are just tools and can easily be changed.
The only thing that could really limit you is your reputation. But that is more an issue after you start PvPing. |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:05:00 -
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If you plan on staying in highsec and doing PvE, join a player corp as soon as possible. You'll most likely burn out, get bored, and quit the game if you do it solo. Earning ISK with friends who have a common goal is a lot more fun than silently grinding alone. |
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:15:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Yes, you can stay in highsec and just PVE. However, other players are free to engage in PvP with you, whether you like it or not. Some people are very good at avoiding PvP encounters, but nobody is completely safe from them. The mechanics are different in high, low, null, and wormholes, but non-consensual spaceship violence is encouraged in all these areas.
What I had figured get in and get out of where I am as covert as possible (which in it's own right could be a fun game of cat and mouse). Thank you
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I would also like to add that while the Forums can be a great source of information... you're just as likely to be mocked, trolled, humiliated and shunned. The trick is realizing that most people mean well whether they admit it or not. Also, everything is PvP, everything.
Yes I have, gotten that feel while lurking about the forums not everyone is looking out for the best interest of the new party and might take me out into a spot in space "to help me" but then beat me up and take my lunch money, so to speak.
Thomas Builder wrote:The big NPC battles are called incursions. As for "as good" - that is of course a very subjective question. Battles between player fleets are very different. Player fleet battles can be much, much bigger than incursions (you'll never see 1000 players in an incursion) and are highly unpredictable, while incursions are scripted.
So like most MMO's once you learn the fight you it's about the same every time you do it again.
Thomas Builder wrote:The vast majority of skills that you'll learn for PvE will be useful in PvP. In general, once you are a year old, you aren't really limited by your character, but much more by the ship you are flying. And ships are just tools and can easily be changed.
The only thing that could really limit you is your reputation. But that is more an issue after you start PvPing.
So I don't have to worry much about the reputations while in high, so I can't "nerf" myself while in high only once I get out into PVP will this cause a problem?
Thank you all for your responses
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:22:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:If you plan on staying in highsec and doing PvE, join a player corp as soon as possible. You'll most likely burn out, get bored, and quit the game if you do it solo. Earning ISK with friends who have a common goal is a lot more fun than silently grinding alone.
Well my plans at the moment are to finish up the Tutorials which I'm taking my time with and reading up on everything lol. still not sure on the route I want to take with the game and was going to hold off on trying to join a corp until I make up my mind if I will subscribe (which I'm leaning towards a year sub). hopefully I will know where I want my character to head to by then and look for a Corp that best fits what I plan on doing. |
Tyrendian Biohazard
Ubiquitous Hurt
257
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:25:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:I am pretty new have about 6 days left on my 14 day trial so far enjoying EVE and mad it has taken me to long to get around to it. one thing that I have found is I enjoy the more complex harder MMO's (ie: AO TSW) but good lord the EvE's learning curve makes those games look like rolling hills lol but I do enjoy making my brain work.
Anyway back to my Point. I'm not good at PVP never have been in the 15yrs of playing MMO's can deal with open world pvp but usually try to avoid it.
Is there a way to play EVE mostly PVE with the occasional Pirate attack?
Dose that mostly mean that I will be trying to mine, explore, ect in highsec space only?
Are there battles with NPC Fleets? are they as good as out in null space?
If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE?
Thank you in advanced for your input.
P.S. so far with all the lurking about the forums it looks like EVE has a pretty great community with lots of Vets with good information, Thank you to all of you a good community is hard to find here on the interwebs :P
Honestly, you don't even have to stay in high sec. There is plenty of things PvE-wise to do in Nullsec, or Wormhole space. Highsec is just the safest area of the game. It isn't 100% safe. That being said, if you enjoy exploration, or running combat site, etc, you can do this no matter the space you are in. Now, you may be adverse to going into those areas due to not wanting to PvP, but as long as you are smart, you really won't have too much of a problem.
If you join a nullsec alliance, you have the benefit of defense fleets, intel channels, and multiple locations to stay safe inside a solar system. You may be required to participate in fleet operations from time to time for PvP, but as a line member, you won't be doing much beyond what the FC calls out. Wormhole space is nice because the entrances and exits will constantly be changing, and while there is no local listing to see who is in system with you, you can use the wormhole access to your advantage as a security measure.
Even beyond this, I wouldn't necessarily rule out PvP 100% for you. EVE PvP is a very different beast from other MMOs. It is very much strategy, over how fast you can click. A lot of things you'll learn about incursions, missions, etc will apply to PvP as well. There are many people who PvE for 5+ years, only to try out PvP and find that they love it, and are quite good at it.
Not saying you have to do all this. Just to keep you aware of your options. Especially since the rewards are usually greater the lower the security system. Heck, even lowsec has sites to run and missions to complete, but are usually quite infested with pirates that are out to get you.
If you play smart, and play safe, the risks lower considerably. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3652
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:34:00 -
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Shortest possible answer: Yes. You can be a pure PvE pilot if you want to after all this is a sandbox.
Long answer will be added when I get home from work and can type on my laptop instead of a smartphone. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1405
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:40:00 -
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The fact you are doing exclusively PVE doesn't mean somebody else cannot do PVP to you and that applies to any type of space you happen to be.
If you can understand and accept that simple thing good luck on your endeavors :) If you can't or won't, well... Good luck :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:43:00 -
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It's also possible to just pve in NPC 0. you just might lose a ship every so often.
I too suck at PVP, however, I like the constant threat. |
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:29:00 -
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Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:Honestly, you don't even have to stay in high sec. There is plenty of things PvE-wise to do in Nullsec, or Wormhole space. Highsec is just the safest area of the game. It isn't 100% safe. That being said, if you enjoy exploration, or running combat site, etc, you can do this no matter the space you are in. Now, you may be adverse to going into those areas due to not wanting to PvP, but as long as you are smart, you really won't have too much of a problem.
If you join a nullsec alliance, you have the benefit of defense fleets, intel channels, and multiple locations to stay safe inside a solar system. You may be required to participate in fleet operations from time to time for PvP, but as a line member, you won't be doing much beyond what the FC calls out. Wormhole space is nice because the entrances and exits will constantly be changing, and while there is no local listing to see who is in system with you, you can use the wormhole access to your advantage as a security measure.
Even beyond this, I wouldn't necessarily rule out PvP 100% for you. EVE PvP is a very different beast from other MMOs. It is very much strategy, over how fast you can click. A lot of things you'll learn about incursions, missions, etc will apply to PvP as well. There are many people who PvE for 5+ years, only to try out PvP and find that they love it, and are quite good at it.
Not saying you have to do all this. Just to keep you aware of your options. Especially since the rewards are usually greater the lower the security system. Heck, even lowsec has sites to run and missions to complete, but are usually quite infested with pirates that are out to get you.
If you play smart, and play safe, the risks lower considerably.
yes I had figured nowhere is safe I have been lucky and not be shot at when coming out of the Center for Advanced Studies but I do see some poor souls being shot at once and awhile when leaving lol. But the more I think about what I want to do while in EVE I think the whole cat and mouse game would be very entertaining not sure what career choice would be best for that, Exploration? and that would fall under cover/ops sort of piloting?
and or the Nullsec alliance would I need to join a corp in the area or are there other means to work in the area and have a good rapport with the corp that is in the area?
J'Poll wrote:Shortest possible answer: Yes. You can be a pure PvE pilot if you want to after all this is a sandbox.
Long answer will be added when I get home from work and can type on my laptop instead of a smartphone.
Well in all the years I have played MMO's I think EVE is the only true sandbox that I have every attempted so this will be interesting lol.
Schmata Bastanold wrote:The fact you are doing exclusively PVE doesn't mean somebody else cannot do PVP to you and that applies to any type of space you happen to be.
If you can understand and accept that simple thing good luck on your endeavors :) If you can't or won't, well... Good luck :)
Well at this time I am only doing PVE I might change my tune later on still undecided at this point. And yes I understand and accept that I will lose ships/time/isk/cargo at any given time and I think I'm ok with that but since I'm still a noobie I have not had a major loss at this point in time and don't know how I will feel when that happens and yes WHEN since I know it is inevitable and will happen at somepoint.
embrel wrote:It's also possible to just pve in NPC 0. you just might lose a ship every so often.
I too suck at PVP, however, I like the constant threat.
well it is nice to know I am not alone lol, the constant threat is why a cat and mouse game seem like a good way to play for me it would be exciting and if I can get away without being popped would be a good feeling.
Thank you all for your input and insights
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4154
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:33:00 -
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In a nutshell, EVE is a sandbox.
You can play it never leaving the station. You can play PVE only. You can play antisocial misfit. You can play raging sociopath. You can play only undock for a CTA. ETC, ETC, ETC.
If you can think of it, it can probably be done. That is both the beauty and the curse of this game.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Haraukiae Youik
University of Caille Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:42:00 -
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I wouldn't recommend it anymore. In years past there was a great pve game but CCP once stated that they wanted to make a pvp game better than WOW.
Basically now it is complete pvp and extreme nul sec politics (when they are not working hand in hand with CCP (ask anyone about the t2 bpo scandal.)
CCP basically uses social coercion to achieve what they want and I've talked to players that have been here since beta and it has always been that way. |
Arc'Los Xyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:02:00 -
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Welcome to EvE ! o7 I totally believe you can play Cat & Mouse games..
there are skills.. and modules you can learn to use.. like EWAR .. sensor dampeners.. ECM ( electronic Countermeasures = breaks target lock ) , Tracking disruptors , ( basically the equivalent of de-buffs from other mmo's .. cloaking .. to help you get way or leave an opponent helpless or at the very least.. "less" effective affording you the opportunity to live another day. that's just the skill books .
the OTHER set of skills.. ( player skills/tactics/ knowledge/ experience/ social skills ) one's you CAN't learn from injecting a skill book .. are what determine your survivability and longevity in your eve life.
it's almost ironic isn't it ? a complex massive game... where you train skills ALWAYS... relies on skills you can't buy to truly enjoy.
I love EvE... this game asteroids ! ( pun on "rocks" ) http://ahanddrawnlife.tumblr.com my artwork ! The Journey :-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=315016&find=unread |
Vedor Teo
House of Nim-Lhach Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:14:00 -
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Give me a reason why not. |
Lilliana Stelles
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:53:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:yes I had figured nowhere is safe I have been lucky and not be shot at when coming out of the Center for Advanced Studies but I do see some poor souls being shot at once and awhile when leaving lol. But the more I think about what I want to do while in EVE I think the whole cat and mouse game would be very entertaining not sure what career choice would be best for that, Exploration? and that would fall under cover/ops sort of piloting?
In terms of covert/hiding PVE gameplay, you have a few options. Exploration is a great bet. It involves running sites in nullsec, and you can remain cloaked for >80% of the time. Some sites involve combat (ghost sites), whereas some are pure exploration. There are also pure combat sites in exploration (DED), but those require a pure combat vessel and often times teammates.
Another option you have is nullsec missioning, which involves running missions in hostile player space in a normally light/fast ship (some of the epic arcs can be done in an interceptor).
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:and or the Nullsec alliance would I need to join a corp in the area or are there other means to work in the area and have a good rapport with the corp that is in the area?
You can always just ask them to blue/friend you. Occasionally NRDS alliances crop up that allow anyone to operate in their space (thought you then have to compete with the other anyones, as there will be plenty of criminals there as well). In NPC nullsec, anyone can dock at the stations, whereas in sov space you'll more-likely-than-not need permission from the locals.
EDIT: Another option that's somewhat unique to EVE is the option to be 100% industry, and not touch PVE nor PVP. Not a forum alt.-á |
Lilliana Stelles
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:06:00 -
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One other thing to realize is that loot progression is very different in EVE. The best ships and the best gear are destroyed quite often. High end PVE ships and modules are often used in PVP as well; there's not always a distinct difference. When you look at our "Raid gear" that might be used in incursions (eg, Pith A-type adaptive invulnerability field) and it's billion isk pricetag, realize that there are plenty of PVPers who will want to kill you to get their hands on it, either to sell or use themselves, and you're painting a big target on yourself by having it.
Since modules are often destroyed when a ship dies, and only a handful drop, it's the opposite of linear-progression found in most games. Instead of the devs constantly producing better loot, the best loot stays as the best loot, and is simply destroyed and must be re-earned.
If you play Eve with a traditional-mmo philosophy of constantly grinding for better gear, be warned: Having good things will make other people want your good things, and you will eventually draw the attention of pirates and criminals just because your stuff is too flashy. There is no soulbinding. Not a forum alt.-á |
Ketov Aktar
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Get Off My Lawn
19
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:13:00 -
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Welcome to EVE. Check out You Tube. Lots of info about EVE gameplay there.
Enjoy your stay....... |
Rykuss
In Praise Of Bacchus
78
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:15:00 -
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Haraukiae Youik wrote:I wouldn't recommend it anymore. In years past there was a great pve game but CCP once stated that they wanted to make a pvp game better than WOW.
Basically now it is complete pvp and extreme nul sec politics (when they are not working hand in hand with CCP (ask anyone about the t2 bpo scandal.)
CCP basically uses social coercion to achieve what they want and I've talked to players that have been here since beta and it has always been that way.
Get out.
Can I have your vindicator? |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:44:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:Is there a way to play EVE mostly PVE with the occasional Pirate attack?
Check out St Mio's "What to do in EVE Online" chart. It has links to articles describing each of those boxes in detail. There is an entire tree full of PvE activities.
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:Dose that mostly mean that I will be trying to mine, explore, ect in highsec space only?
You can find PvE content everywhere.
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE?
Running missions will alter your standings with the various NPC factions. You will get "Loyalty Points" which are currency in the "Loyalty Point Store". Each LP store has a different range of items.
If you're mostly interested in cat-and-mouse games, I suspect Exploration will be of interest to you. This is an activity that you can do mostly solo, in any space where you can manage to infiltrate, doesn't have NPC repercussions, and can be profitable once you know what you are doing.
Make sure you follow the tutorial series at the beginning of the game, especially the exploration branch.
Some further reading for you:
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:30:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:Is there a way to play EVE mostly PVE with the occasional Pirate attack? Check out St Mio's " What to do in EVE Online" chart. It has links to articles describing each of those boxes in detail. There is an entire tree full of PvE activities. Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:Dose that mostly mean that I will be trying to mine, explore, ect in highsec space only? You can find PvE content everywhere. Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE? Running missions will alter your standings with the various NPC factions. You will get "Loyalty Points" which are currency in the "Loyalty Point Store". Each LP store has a different range of items. If you're mostly interested in cat-and-mouse games, I suspect Exploration will be of interest to you. This is an activity that you can do mostly solo, in any space where you can manage to infiltrate, doesn't have NPC repercussions, and can be profitable once you know what you are doing. Make sure you follow the tutorial series at the beginning of the game, especially the exploration branch. Some further reading for you:
Thank you for the info I will get to reading once I get off work.
Lilliana Stelles wrote:One other thing to realize is that loot progression is very different in EVE. The best ships and the best gear are destroyed quite often. High end PVE ships and modules are often used in PVP as well; there's not always a distinct difference. When you look at our "Raid gear" that might be used in incursions (eg, Pith A-type adaptive invulnerability field) and it's billion isk pricetag, realize that there are plenty of PVPers who will want to kill you to get their hands on it, either to sell or use themselves, and you're painting a big target on yourself by having it.
Since modules are often destroyed when a ship dies, and only a handful drop, it's the opposite of linear-progression found in most games. Instead of the devs constantly producing better loot, the best loot stays as the best loot, and is simply destroyed and must be re-earned.
If you play Eve with a traditional-mmo philosophy of constantly grinding for better gear, be warned: Having good things will make other people want your good things, and you will eventually draw the attention of pirates and criminals just because your stuff is too flashy. There is no soulbinding.
This is very interesting, since usually the goal in games is to get the best gear to pwn face... but if I do the same in EVE I will be a target for everyone haha which makes it very interesting. I will have to plan very carefully then before I venture out what things I need that are nice to get X job done but what POS ship can throw them in to get me there lol. Not sure if that will work but is something to think about. Thanks
Man a lot to take in and a lot I'm going to have to read up on. Another question that comes to mind now if I do go the route of exploration and playing cat and mouse with threats amongst the stars ... is this all I should do or can one specialize in a few different careers? or with me doing more then one thing will this in the long run hinder me with the amount of skills I would need to do so and the time it will take me to learn all the skills that I would need to be proficient in multiple careers?
Thank you all for the feed back |
Arc'Los Xyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:40:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote: Man a lot to take in and a lot I'm going to have to read up on. Another question that comes to mind now if I do go the route of exploration and playing cat and mouse with threats amongst the stars ... is this all I should do or can one specialize in a few different careers? or with me doing more then one thing will this in the long run hinder me with the amount of skills I would need to do so and the time it will take me to learn all the skills that I would need to be proficient in multiple careers?
Thank you all for the feed back
in a true sandbox such as EvE.. you can do as many careers as you like..! ! its just are you willing to train up those skills to master at least most of them ? or do you train just to Master ONE career.. and be ok in others.. i read a lot of folks here say that some are really time consuming careers tho and have little synergy with other career/skill paths.
like you can probably do trade as a secondary skill while bing an exploration pilot..? someone correct me if i'm making the wrong assumption here ? http://ahanddrawnlife.tumblr.com my artwork ! The Journey :-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=315016&find=unread |
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:53:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote: Man a lot to take in and a lot I'm going to have to read up on. Another question that comes to mind now if I do go the route of exploration and playing cat and mouse with threats amongst the stars ... is this all I should do or can one specialize in a few different careers? or with me doing more then one thing will this in the long run hinder me with the amount of skills I would need to do so and the time it will take me to learn all the skills that I would need to be proficient in multiple careers?
Thank you all for the feed back
in a true sandbox such as EvE.. you can do as many careers as you like..! ! its just are you willing to train up those skills to master at least most of them ? or do you train just to Master ONE career.. and be ok in others.. i read a lot of folks here say that some are really time consuming careers tho and have little synergy with other career/skill paths. like you can probably do trade as a secondary skill while bing an exploration pilot..? someone correct me if i'm making the wrong assumption here ?
Well I have come to believe that everything in EVE is going to take me awhile to get anything done. Having friends who talk about EVE when they are playing other games (Sayeth TSW hi if you are out there ) that some skills to pilot some ships will take you about a year to train. Which I think is sort of nice since most other games everyone is in such a rush to get everything done and it's always go go go. Would be nice to have a game where I can play at my own pace and if I'm not playing I am still training skills.
I am also still new enough that most of the skills that I have trained (to 3 so far) I'm sure will come in handy and once I have done all of the tutorials I might know what I plan on doing and I'm sure I will be doing a lot more research before I dedicate too much time into any of them. |
Arc'Los Xyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:05:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:Well I have come to believe that everything in EVE is going to take me awhile to get anything done. Having friends who talk about EVE when they are playing other games (Sayeth TSW hi if you are out there ) that some skills to pilot some ships will take you about a year to train. Which I think is sort of nice since most other games everyone is in such a rush to get everything done and it's always go go go. Would be nice to have a game where I can play at my own pace and if I'm not playing I am still training skills. I am also still new enough that most of the skills that I have trained (to 3 so far) I'm sure will come in handy and once I have done all of the tutorials I might know what I plan on doing and I'm sure I will be doing a lot more research before I dedicate too much time into any of them.
on the flip side.. i fly in a PvP corp.. i've been getting my ships blown up left and right.. every night and i log in about 2hrs a night. there is always something to do.. EvE is unique in that it won't hold your hand.. and YOU are the dynamic content in it. I'm gonna break 100 ships before the month ends.. LOL !
take that as you will.. and fly . o7 http://ahanddrawnlife.tumblr.com my artwork ! The Journey :-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=315016&find=unread |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3653
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:16:00 -
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Haraukiae Youik wrote:I wouldn't recommend it anymore. In years past there was a great pve game but CCP once stated that they wanted to make a pvp game better than WOW.
Basically now it is complete pvp and extreme nul sec politics (when they are not working hand in hand with CCP (ask anyone about the t2 bpo scandal.)
CCP basically uses social coercion to achieve what they want and I've talked to players that have been here since beta and it has always been that way.
Do NOT listen to this person.
Likely an alt of someone who got kicked out of null and is butthurt about it.
And even if not, it's still the most terrible advice every seen on this forum. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3653
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:24:00 -
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Pale-Medic Teke-Teke wrote:I am pretty new have about 6 days left on my 14 day trial so far enjoying EVE and mad it has taken me to long to get around to it. one thing that I have found is I enjoy the more complex harder MMO's (ie: AO TSW) but good lord the EvE's learning curve makes those games look like rolling hills lol but I do enjoy making my brain work.
Anyway back to my Point. I'm not good at PVP never have been in the 15yrs of playing MMO's can deal with open world pvp but usually try to avoid it.
Is there a way to play EVE mostly PVE with the occasional Pirate attack?
Dose that mostly mean that I will be trying to mine, explore, ect in highsec space only?
Are there battles with NPC Fleets? are they as good as out in null space?
If I do stay in Highsec and do missions and get Honor points(or what ever they maybe) how will that effect me in the long run if I decide to make my way out to the lower sec/ null area's of EVE?
Thank you in advanced for your input.
P.S. so far with all the lurking about the forums it looks like EVE has a pretty great community with lots of Vets with good information, Thank you to all of you a good community is hard to find here on the interwebs :P
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Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
68
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:37:00 -
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Lots of great posts, I'd just add that the OP's outlook seems fine to me on this in that they are willing to accept the occasional pirate attack and such as just part of the game. That's a great way to look at it and as long as you're happy with that you'll be fine doing primarily PvE.
Just think of us PvP oriented folk as (hopefully more dangerous) surprise NPCs that are happy to chat after they attack you, if you like :)
There's a ton of people playing a nearly pure PvE game (with occasional PvP spice thrown in) in all sec status space, even WH. You'll be fine. Just remember that it's an unsharded MMO and other players will be doing their thing too, and in EVE, nearly anything is legal. You'll find lots of advice on how to avoid people like me. |
Pale-Medic Teke-Teke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:42:00 -
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Arc'Los Xyn wrote:on the flip side.. i fly in a PvP corp.. i've been getting my ships blown up left and right.. every night and i log in about 2hrs a night. there is always something to do.. EvE is unique in that it won't hold your hand.. and YOU are the dynamic content in it. I'm gonna break 100 ships before the month ends.. LOL !
take that as you will.. and fly . o7
Since I am so new I don't think I can afford losing that many ships in a month and if I do play my Cat & Mouse game good enough hopefully I will stay under that number but hey whatever makes if fun right
J'Poll wrote:..(snip) So, if you never PvP you will stay bad at it, if you try it (and that doesn't mean you have to PvP all the time, every day you log in) you will get better. And as added benefit, by knowing / learning PvP, you know how to evade PvP players when you are doing PvE.
...(snip)
To be honest I didn't think about it before now but this is a great point and so I might have to PVP even though I'm bad at it ... just so I know how PVP works in the game hence I will be better preparied to avoid it. And hopefully practiced enough for when I get caught to at least put up a good fight
Miriya Zakalwe wrote:Lots of great posts, I'd just add that the OP's outlook seems fine to me on this in that they are willing to accept the occasional pirate attack and such as just part of the game. That's a great way to look at it and as long as you're happy with that you'll be fine doing primarily PvE.
Just think of us PvP oriented folk as (hopefully more dangerous) surprise NPCs that are happy to chat after they attack you, if you like :)
There's a ton of people playing a nearly pure PvE game (with occasional PvP spice thrown in) in all sec status space, even WH. You'll be fine. Just remember that it's an unsharded MMO and other players will be doing their thing too, and in EVE, nearly anything is legal. You'll find lots of advice on how to avoid people like me.
I will do my best to avoid people like you (please don't take that the wrong way and hunt me down ).
This dose lead me to another question I have seen a few post about people who get caught out in the void and popped and they talk to their attackers and they will give them pointers. if this is the case if I get caught and my ship goes boom and I'm in my pod do I run like hell if I can? or say to chat? or is the chatting with someone to caught you something you do once you are back in a safe place if you can make it there? Have not trained any grammar skills yet. |
Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
68
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:51:00 -
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Definitely get the hell out of dodge first by warping to something. You can then open your combat log after you are safe and start a convo with your attacker from there. |
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