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Thomas McLoed
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:03:00 -
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Greetings...
Soliciting feedback from serious Industry types on a concept I've been mulling over.
Given the scarcity of certain industry slots in NPC stations, and the rarity of stations with both Manufacturing and Research: Is it viable to sell corp access to POS research and manufacturing slots to individual characters on a service basis?
For example, set up a Corp and launch a high-sec POS within two jumps of a trade hub with the following (illustrative) Industry capabilities:
1 x Assembly Array - Adv. Large Ship [1 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Adv. Medium Ship [1 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Adv. Small Ship [1 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Ammunition [5 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Drone [8 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Equipment/Modules [6 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Large Ship [3 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Medium Ship [5 slot] 1 x Assembly Array - Small Ship [10 slot] 6 x Advanced/Mobile Laboratory [10 Copy/24 Invention/24 ME/12 PE] 1 x Corporate Hangar Array 1 x Personal Hangar Array 1 x Ship Maintenance Array
and offer up to six 'memberships' (only) to the Corp that characters can purchase on a month-by-month basis to use it, including 'read-only' access to the Corp BPO stock (200+ T1 common ship, drone, module and ammo). The closest NPC station (at that moon's planet) has a 50% Refinery, and the parent Corp would take care of all POS standings, fuelling, maintenance/Charters, defences and so on.
My questions to the wisdom-of-crowds:
- Would this be marketable at all; in other words, would anyone 'buy' access to it?
- What expectation would you have for accessibility to the slots - that you could use a guaranteed minimum of 50% of your maximum possible slots at any time? 75%? 100%?
- What is the maximum amount per month that you would be willing to pay for that access?
- Finally, are there any other services/access/value that this Corp/POS could provide that would increase its appeal?
The Assembly Arrays and Laboratory components are illustrative, and wouldn't necessarily be on-lined if there was no demand for them (allowing additional components of other types to be available), and defensive/offensive components would be anchored and off-line.
Any merit to the idea?
Thanks, TM.
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Achanjati
Royal Amarr Science Institute
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:16:00 -
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Thomas McLoed wrote:
Would this be marketable at all; in other words, would anyone 'buy' access to it?
If you eliminate th NPC slots without supplying Labs and arrays as Mobile Deployables: sure.
Thomas McLoed wrote:
What expectation would you have for accessibility to the slots - that you could use a guaranteed minimum of 50% of your maximum possible slots at any time? 75%? 100%? Depends on your location, your costs, if the business is it worth to build up a POS only to rent the slots. I think there is no answer that fits all cases.
Thomas McLoed wrote:
What is the maximum amount per month that you would be willing to pay for that access? Not more than it would cost to maintain an own POS ;)
I'm sure you answered the S&I survey and used the box with the "if you would be in charge..."? |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:30:00 -
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Yes it's possible to do a business renting slots
No it won't last very long because I'll infiltrate it with multiple characters, destroy all your jobs, and leave some sleepers along with a ransom demand. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:39:00 -
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Loraine Gess wrote:Yes it's possible to do a business renting slots
No it won't last very long because I'll infiltrate it with multiple characters, destroy all your jobs, and leave some sleepers along with a ransom demand.
Have some bad news for you. Unless you can wangle a directorship, you can't cancel other people's jobs any more. Factory manager doesn't let you. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:48:00 -
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Watchlisted.
Prepare for war dec.
Just kidding - in all seriousness, this kind of thing is harder than it sounds to protect. |
Rashnu Gorbani
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.23 00:29:00 -
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Hi!
Yes and no.
1) According to that list the pos would be full with industrial modules which mean no defense. Can always have offline modules but it will not be practical / easy to take everything offline when there's other people's jobs running. 2) Suggests big indy operation -> big target. 3) No way to have guaranteed slots if I'm not mistaken so one can never be sure if they'll have a queue waiting or not. Not really possible to have steady, calculable manufacturing lines going on. 4) Too few slots - one character that's even a bit committed for longer term can use 10 slots simultaneously, and may want to manufacture a certain type of product.
According to some forum posts people do try to rent slots but in a different way - they research BPs for you for example, or you contract them everything and they manufacture it for you (also inconvenient imo).
For all kinds of practical reasons, the only thing I'd consider outsourcing would be the long ME/PE researches, and only if someone else does it.
Your idea sounds like it could work for casual, starting industrialists and there would be too much trouble with them. :) |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:20:00 -
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It is possible for members of your own alliance to do remote research from a station in the same system as your POS. But only ME/PE research. Everything else requires accessing one or more hangers within your corp.
I suppose if you were to "buy" their stuff via contract you could do it yourself, and then trade finished products back less your fee.
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Batelle
HOMELE55
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:43:00 -
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It would be a lot more viable if i didn't have to be inside your corp/alliance to do this. Security concerns, hassle, lack of control over my own facilities, all of that would be a huge downside over having to pay you for the services. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
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