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Hassan Al-Fassir
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
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Posted - 2014.12.11 07:52:24 -
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Dani Maulerant wrote:Another bump. I just got done with a draft for my alliance's logo and nearing full refined completion. Would really like if sometime in the rest of the lifetime of this game it could be utilized for real.
Totally with you on that one -.-
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2014.12.12 02:57:45 -
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It disgusts me that our CSM reps not only took this lying down, they didn't even seem to really give a ****.
Yeah, Sion Kumitomo. Yeah, mynnna. I'm looking at you. What the hell's the matter with you?
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2014.12.12 03:01:38 -
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Having a watermark on every alliance logo is stupid, especially if you have it on ships. It's going to look stupid. And furthermore it's completely unnecessary.
Why can't you see that CCP was just trying to stall on this subject long enough to get you to agree with it just so you can get the submission process working again?
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.12.12 06:59:20 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Having a watermark on every alliance logo is stupid, especially if you have it on ships. It's going to look stupid. And furthermore it's completely unnecessary.
Why can't you see that CCP was just trying to stall on this subject long enough to get you to agree with it just so you can get the submission process working again?
Of course you are right but CCP is a Business first and a game second...they look around and seeing money going in other peoples pockets and see a chance to tax it by saying thats ours you can't do that heres a lawyer talk to him and give us money.
theres another post somewhere where they updated EULA or TOS i can't remember what it was maybe it was both that was talking about charging third party developers
CCP also Inflated the costs of PLEX so that more people had to break out the Credit/Debit card thru the use of Sculpting, multiple training, ship skins, more clothes and other things that require Plex
Edit: As a Ex Business Owner i understand (tho they loose content generation by people unsubbing)....As a Gamer i think it's a bit screwed up
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Dani Maulerant
Order of the Valkyrie LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:43:22 -
[425] - Quote
Bumping again. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.12.21 07:07:20 -
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if i remember correctly it was 5 months ago since there was a update by a CCP representative ... we getting one soon? ... or is this thread just being buried? ... honestly a game that was just released yesterday that has spaceships might have better support then this
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Jared Noan
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
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Posted - 2014.12.24 16:52:35 -
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Dani Maulerant wrote:Bumping again.
Bumping is against the forum rules.
Jared bumps the thread again.
Merry Christmas. |
Ortho Loess
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.24 17:00:58 -
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I doubt I'll be bothered to post tomorrow, so I'll take this opportunity to point out that tomorrow marks the one year anniversary of us first receiving a copyright claim against our logo, originating from CCP.
The fallout from this (and others getting similar mails) lead to the current situation.
Lawyers are famous for stretching things out, so that they get paid more. This lot should have an extra glass of whatever ludicrously expensive cognac they prefer to celebrate being able to get away with such an outrageous display of worthless poor advice to CCP. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.12.24 17:45:09 -
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i LOVE CCP and have played EVE religiously for 4 years every single day 8-14hrs a day (9accounts thats 27 alts) normally except 10 days i went to Portugal last summer for vacation but i still checked and sent mails on evegate...however the customer support that CCP is giving us on our alliance logos is making me feel like i'm in the movie Chicago with Richard Gere singing Razzle dazzle to me
i run a Alliance and am seriously thinking of dissolving my 250 active man alliance (and growing) and playing Elite Dangerous instead ..... update us CCP or else the Bunny gets it by the way ....THIS IS VELDSPAR!!!
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2014.12.25 22:22:40 -
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Maybe someone would make a presentation for fanfest with thread with soonTM function, just to list them and explain them. This one and contracts feedback would be good examples. |
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
411
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:34:48 -
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This is just ******* sad.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
411
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:38:09 -
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I'm really not sure whether to be mad at CCP or sad for them at this point but I do feel pretty confident in saying that your legal team is laughing at you behind your backs.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.03 04:55:12 -
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Why ever do simple issues like this need to be complicated beyond comprehension? The answer to this has been suggested since the beginning, has it not?
Is CCP legal even considering a thought-process outside their own? |
David Laurentson
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:35:09 -
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Ortho Loess wrote:I doubt I'll be bothered to post tomorrow, so I'll take this opportunity to point out that tomorrow marks the one year anniversary of us first receiving a copyright claim against our logo, originating from CCP.
The fallout from this (and others getting similar mails) lead to the current situation.
Lawyers are famous for stretching things out, so that they get paid more. This lot should have an extra glass of whatever ludicrously expensive cognac they prefer to celebrate being able to get away with such an outrageous display of worthless poor advice to CCP.
Happy Lawyerversary, I guess! |
Hassan Al-Fassir
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:28:50 -
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Happy new year, same old topic.
+1 for "wants his logo ingame someday without stupid 1214 pages rules"
God, its a game, why does this get so complicatet -.- |
Dani Maulerant
Order of the Valkyrie LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2015.01.11 07:11:46 -
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Can we have an update if the hilariously incompetent "legal Team" has even been given the watermark proposal yet? |
Saint John Hawke
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.01.11 21:15:41 -
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You know what frosts me about this kind of thing?
Contracts between entities are supposed to be a matter of mutual agreement. Instead we get big corporations with lots of lawyers telling us how it's gonna be, and if we don't like it, tough.
My basic reaction to this kind of thing is "screw you". |
Koebmand
Silverflames
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Posted - 2015.01.12 13:35:25 -
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Thread too long to read and doesn't seem to be a final answer from CCP.
What confuses me is this.
If I make a piece of program, I can give anyone the right to use it in their program - including for free in programs they are going to be selling commercially. While retaining the right to use it as I please myself - including selling the the same right to use to someone third.
This is called a non-exclusive agrement.
Why can't the logo be treated the same way? I don't see the difference on picture and algorithm here? |
RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:50:20 -
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Koebmand wrote:Thread too long to read and doesn't seem to be a final answer from CCP.
What confuses me is this.
If I make a piece of program, I can give anyone the right to use it in their program - including for free in programs they are going to be selling commercially. While retaining the right to use it as I please myself - including selling the the same right to use to someone third.
This is called a non-exclusive agrement.
Why can't the logo be treated the same way? I don't see the difference on picture and algorithm here?
Because CCP's lawyers are either incompetent or evil, and wilfully ignore the fact that if someone isn't in a position to licence the work under the most generous conditions possible short of exclusivity, there's not a chance in hell that they're in a position to transfer the copyright.
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Marielle Swann
Swann Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 09:06:40 -
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well I know Ive submitted my Logo on 26.11.2013
and was already accepted and just awaiting to be dumped to the database (approved by art team). then this **** happened so everything halted..
but seriously tho, the lack of communication on CCP side is just unacceptable, even for an old enough company who provides service. I can understand Falcon is doing hes best and fighting it with the lawyers... but its not helpful at all when you yourself stay quiet. at the very least, communicate with the community even with out a news... just letting us know ur still there and busy about it. |
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:39:36 -
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Marielle Swann wrote:well I know Ive submitted my Logo on 26.11.2013
and was already accepted and just awaiting to be dumped to the database (approved by art team). then this **** happened so everything halted..
but seriously tho, the lack of communication on CCP side is just unacceptable, even for an old enough company who provides service. I can understand Falcon is doing hes best and fighting it with the lawyers... but its not helpful at all when you yourself stay quiet. at the very least, communicate with the community even with out a news... just letting us know ur still there and busy about it.
+1
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Dani Maulerant
Order of the Valkyrie LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2015.01.17 00:23:27 -
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Or just proceed with opening under a 'watermark' rule written up by CCP themselves. Lawyers be damned. Them not doing their job CCP pays them for is really pissing off a lot of paying customers. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.17 01:02:09 -
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Permanent, non-exclusive, irrevocable license with permission to use and distribute. No transfer of copyright. No watermarks. No compromise.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1714
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Posted - 2015.01.17 08:39:54 -
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And higher standards for the logos(they have be lore frendly or at least neutral) plus revision of existing ones
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Wild Things
Mining Industry Exile Foundation The Camel Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.18 02:37:22 -
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Soooo, can we have an update on the process?
It's been a little while.
In this moment, I am euphoric.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1716
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Posted - 2015.01.21 20:44:11 -
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CSM 9 Winter Summit - Day One Meeting Minutes
Quote:CCP Seagull then talked about how using some kind of ingame tool to create logos or skin deisgns would likely be the next probable step in that direction rather than direct player submissions
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
491
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:00:44 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:CSM 9 Winter Summit - Day One Meeting MinutesQuote:CCP Seagull then talked about how using some kind of ingame tool to create logos or skin deisgns would likely be the next probable step in that direction rather than direct player submissions No. **** that. ****. That. Entirely.
Such a mechanic would take away the variety and flavor of current alliance logos and replace them with the same kind of generic **** that makes our corporation logos.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
45
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:14:21 -
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Quote:CCP Seagull then talked about how using some kind of in game tool to create logos or skin designs would likely be the next probable step in that direction rather than direct player submissions
i once liked CCP Seagull.... this is F***ing ******** ... lots of people will not like this at all ...remember Incarna? This removes individuality from the game
Edit: i also fixed your spelling because spell check is very hard.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1717
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:25:42 -
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To judge i would have to see the amount of option such "tool" would provide.
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Dani Maulerant
Order of the Valkyrie LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:47:54 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:To judge i would have to see the amount of option such "tool" would provide.
Probably what's in the corporation logo toolset, +25% more of those cookie cutter layer options, and then 4 more color options. |
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