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Doomchinchilla
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.02.15 16:58:00 -
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DARKSTAR POWNYOUALL wrote:*MAKE A SINGLE POST*
*GET ACCUSED OF CAMPAIGNING, BY A SHADOW CARTEL ALT WITH AT LEAST 5 POSTS IN THE SAME THREAD*
*WONDER'S WHY I BOTHER" I'm not an alt. And noone that was an alt has posted here as Shadow Cartel. If you see other people posting, it's because they're mocking the fact that I was accused of being an alt. I may be an ******* in game, but as many can attest, I'm not an alt. In fact I'm a CEO... so that would make being an alt pretty awkward. Don't you think so? |
DARKSTAR POWNYOUALL
Craftybitches INC
68
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Posted - 2014.02.15 17:21:00 -
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YOU WILL ALWAYS BE AN ALT IN MY EYES |
HippoWhisperer
Brazzers.
0
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Posted - 2014.02.15 20:41:00 -
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you have my axe and my vote |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
390
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:46:00 -
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Doomchinchilla wrote:
I raise a concern that she seems very limited to small gang pvp, and not well known around this area of LS.
Considering the other posts and the comments about being well known I feel that this is a matter of stylistic representation.
Chatting with others over some of the questions brought forward one person said that people want to make sure that they are not dismissed. Looking at it from that perspective the GÇÿtypeGÇÖ of PvP done could be a concern if I was obsessed with it and considered my path the proper one. From there, one might worry that I would agree with nerfs to larger gangs who focused on different types of PvP because it was not something that would bother GÇÿmeGÇÖ.
PvP is PvP. One thing I cannot do is speak out against anotherGÇÖs PvP style because it is not mine. Nor can I agree on nerfing a type of PvP because it is not mine. Such as gatecamps. A gatecamping lifestyle is not one that I happen to understand, personally. I do not feel a draw to spend my time doing this. However, I donGÇÖt dismiss people who gatecamp. I have dropped into the threads that spawn regularly where people suggest that the way to bring people into low sec is to nerf gatecamps so that they can travel with Orcas full of goodies, safely and the lazy PvPers are forced to work to kill them to state my opinion on why they are wrong and to defend those that wish to spend their lives camping.
If camping was brought onto the table then the next step is to find a medium. IGÇÖd say happy medium but often such things are not happy. But GÇ£I donGÇÖt do that so I do not careGÇ¥ is not how I approach a situation.
I use this as an example to explain that not doing something, especially a style of something that I do is not a reason to invalidate it. While it may become repetitive, I will continue to explain that representation does not mean only the things Sugar does matter in Eve. Just because I do not do something or I am not personally effected by subject does not make it irrelevant, not exist, or be ignored. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
390
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:12:00 -
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Rev Fernie wrote:The FW and retention of players in Low Sec issue. Could be resolved by introducing Pirate Factions to the Process. Players who are members of pirate factions could hijack and steal LP (i.e. Ransom) from racial Faction pilots that cloak or warp off stabbed. In effect causing them to stay and fight for their LP. Current FW players will need to step things up in order to maintain their existing non risk farming levels of income. This could encourage the pirate career to progress and increase new player involvement in low sec PVP. tldr Introduce the pirate factions to faction warfare so they can extort and interfere with the wars. Boost the pirate career.
I love the idea of introducing the pirate factions into low sec in a more intricate, integrated manner. When it comes to advertising, piracy catches peoples attention. Many new players want to GÇ£pirateGÇ¥ and make their living in the space lanes. It is a font of ideas and possibilities.
When crossing into Faction Warfare one always has to make sure not to devalue the efforts of the Faction Warfare pilots. They put a lot of time and energy into their systems, their control, defending and attacking. For a neutral third party to come and hijack their LP and trot off would cut into them deeply. The neutral third party benefits from the LP, does not have to deal with the mechanics of FW (the war, the station, the control, the standings).
Also, how does this fix the cloaky stabbed frigates farming the plexs? They would become cloaky stabbed neutral pirate frigates.
The general GÇ£FW farming problemGÇ¥ that has so clearly come to the surface needs to be addressed. And when taken to the CSM table, by myself or whomever goes forward with the player vote, it needs to come along with ideas, possibilities, and solutions. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
392
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:57:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote: The lowsec group can make monthly meetings on skype, TS whatever and gather all kind of experts of all areas to propose some changes. One month it could be FW, another industry, small scale PvP, caps PVP, missions exploration.
On the way to election and after, I want to meet with people. If people want to talk I will listen. If they want to write, I will read. Listening is a fantastic thing. Listening to someone tell their problems unearths a lot of interlinked problems. Sometimes what is bothering someone and the actual core problem are not immediately apparent. A wide range of people will create a pool of knowledge that will paint a much larger picture.
Zloco Crendraven wrote: 1- Regions out of FW in lowsec should be distinctive by resources btw each other. Some should have great asteroids, some should be best missions hubs, some higher gas sites spawn rate, some should have really good stations (industry, lesser clone cost, science, cheaper repair costs) etc. All kind of differentiation are possible. 2- FW plexes should not be doable with non fitted or half fitted ships. No more cloaked, stabbed orbiting. Lv 3 and 4 FW missions should not be doable in bombers. 3- Lv 5 missions should have better rewards 4- All lowgrade sets should be obtainable only trough missions in lowsec or lowsec exploration. 5- Jump freighters should not jump trough cyno in and out of lowsec. 6- Better rewards for lowsec incursions 7- Minus security status to meter. Preferabley with some distinctive mechanics which should interact with FW.
1-I think that this is very interesting. The separation and specific definition of the areas would hopefully cause different types of people to settle in different areas. It creates texture and depth. However, what about the predator? For the predator (the current bulk of the non fw-low sec population), they are looking for the prey. TheyGÇÖd follow and consume. Are we trying to create areas where the prey will thrive enough to fight back and defend? And if so how do we stop the resources from being too great that it does not just create a farming situation and recreate current woes?
2- What is a fitted ship? Let us say that every slot had to be full. If they filled them with trash modules to fit the restriction, would that be better?
And missions need to be rebalanced everywhere. Accepting blitzable missions is prevalent in every single area of space. There are level 5 missions that need a few shots from a battleship and complete.
3-PvE needs attention and rebalancing, agreed.
4-IGÇÖm very happy to snatch and add resources like this to low sec. If it has to be in the current mechanics, exploration is a good choice. If it can be in the mechanics of my dreams, the pirate expansion would be coming soon because it would be awesome.
5-This speaks close to my heart. I run a trade hub in low sec. My jump freighter is my backbone. I jump a lot. Enough to have trained JF Conservation V, Jump Freighters V and Racial Freighter V. Now, before I had it I could move a freighter with the support of my corporation. I like that and write extensively on the antics that we got up to with me in freighters and Orcas jumping into low sec. My jump freighter has created opportunities for me to expand my market, one that is used by more than my personal corporation.
But, my hub is on an edge system. Industry is bulky and inconvenient. If we removed jump freighters we would remove many industrial opportunities in deeper low sec. Jump freighters are a two way street. They stop things like convoys of freighters but they also bring assets into regions of space that might otherwise not have a population.
Now, youGÇÖre above idea of GÇÿtexturedGÇÖ or GÇÿflavoredGÇÖ regions might be strong enough to help support this but it would be a huge change and can easily be the type of nerf that kills more than it heals.
6-IGÇÖm down for this.
7- I am not fully sure what you envision here. WeGÇÖll have to chat about this more :)
Zloco Crendraven wrote: Force projection is another very important thing that should be addressed. The actual mechanics don't allow any smaller group to evolve in lowsec. Smaller groups can't attack POCOs or take moons or even make a small roam in their damn space. Force projection allows stronger groups to be everywhere anytime and like that it suffocates smaller entities that could evolve in something more meaningful in lowsec.
Force projection is delicate. Too much in either direction kills huge chunks of gameplay. This is where I would seek solutions and especially solutions from those who use it. It is easy, when one is the one dropped to just want to get rid of it. But how would those that use this mechanic the most handle the situation? Those are the people I will need to hunt down for advice and opinions.
Zloco Crendraven wrote: POSs and passive income should b revisited.
What do we want from them? What are your ideas? Passive income such as moon goo?
One of my list of topics that I brought up at Fanfest was the fact that than Moons were mostly controlled by null sec groups. My feeling was that moons located in low sec, were not there to be used by the people that lived in low sec. With timers and the ability to travel accross the game they were dominated by the large, organized groups in the game which meant that they were a null sec resource that was inconveniently located. It is the type of thing siphons were introduced for, but they were introduced after the nerf.
POS in general are a soul deep pain. I have been refueling them as I worked on this response. I believe that deployables are the first step to redoing POS and the current POS structure will be trashed. I can be wrong. ItGÇÖs my guess. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
392
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:58:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote: Most of all, Lowsec needs to get its identity. It needs to stop to be percieved as a transition btw highsec and nullsec. In my opinion lowsec needs to be solo and small-medium scale heaven. It needs to be an ideal environment for smaller, weaker groups to get their footholds and evolve. Carebears especially industry one (those that don't want to bother with sov) should have their eyes sparkling and their body thrembling only of the mention of lowsec. It should be a neverending circle btw militia, outlaws and smaller entities in search of a better tomorrow.
I agree that at the foot of the problem is low sec no longer being defined as the place between high and null or GÇÿmediumGÇÖ space.
Trying to define and mold it into solo and small-medium scale heaven is not something that can be done directly. What would stop a larger group from gaining interest? And before that, why are we stopping a larger group from gaining interest? If I were to use Tuskers as Solo, 7-2 as small, Balex as medium, and Shadow Cartel as large (picking groups in this thread) why is SC any less valid in their existence inside of low sec? Why do they need to be kicked to some other space because they run a larger fleet? They put the time, effort, and energy into being who and what they are and they enjoy low secs environment. They cannot be pushed out for being a large group anymore than the Tuskers should be kicked to high sec to dual in trade hubs if they want solo PvP.
The residents of low sec are their own worst enemy when it comes to smaller, weaker groups getting a foothold and evolving. We consume what is here or we are consumed. Some smaller groups survive. Many do not. Some larger groups do not survive. How do we fix what is the core of what we are? Is it something that needs to be fixed?
And the simplest fix for industry would be for the current, thriving, population to incorporate them. To create a balance inside where groups take in industrialists and are fed (ships/stuff) by them and it creates a beautiful life cycle. However, that isnGÇÖt how most low sec groups and especially low sec groups that identify as PvP corporations play Eve. Some do have logistics sides and they keep them tucked in high sec, often without the same corporation ticker and away from the kill board. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
2222
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:51:00 -
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I am flabbergasted. That was the best CSM pitch I have ever read, and the fact that you intend to speak knowledgeably for the most ignored area of gameplay just compounds my astonishment. You have my vote, and I will push to have you added to people's recommended voting lists.
Again, amazing contribution. Thank you. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
42
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:40:00 -
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Trolling aside and ignoring cap cruise control=cool over there, Sugar Kyle has answered all the posts in this thread with verbose and eloquent replies. I'm impressed but the experience gap is a problem that even consulting good knowledgeable people cannot necessarily fix. Then again, CSM has always been about personalities and their ability to lobby and present -- not necessarily advocate things that would improve their own playstyle. War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.
My blog, Civire Commander: http://civre.blogspot.co.uk/ |
Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
61
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:58:00 -
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If Sugar ends up being the only, or the best of others' throwing their hat into the CSM ring to represent low sec, so what if she isn't "experienced" in all aspects of low sec? What's the point SC dudes?
Part of being on the CSM is to take the concerns, ideas, etc... of the player base that they represent and present it to CCP and hash ideas. Instead of smacking her down because you think you're some kind of hero God-like end all to be all low sec heroes, stand up and commit to the CSM yourself. OR be excellent communicators to her, should she win a seat, and help her understand the things she doesn't know and enable and empower her to empower you. No one knows everything. And the fact that some of you act like she should, or that you do, is pure laughable.
I think Sugar's platform is well written. I for one will have her at the top of my list. Even Hans had mega votes by his FW enemies because they believed and trusted he would represent them. Just because someone isn't l33t Cartel-ish in your eyes doesn't mean she won't do her damnedest to represent you. |
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Naughty Cargo
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 04:17:00 -
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Ezek Price wrote:Trolling aside and ignoring cap cruise control=cool over there, Sugar Kyle has answered all the posts in this thread with verbose and eloquent replies. I'm impressed but the experience gap is a problem that even consulting good knowledgeable people cannot necessarily fix. Then again, CSM has always been about personalities and their ability to lobby and present -- not necessarily advocate things that would improve their own playstyle.
I know what you mean about the experience, being a 'newer' player still myself, and I see where you're coming from. And while Sugar, as she has said numerous times, does not know everything low sec personally (but then, who in this game truly knows everything?), I know for a fact that if there was something many people want attention on from CSM and the dev's, that Sugar would take on the issue herself, and look all all facets and aspects of it, and ask people about it, and then bring it to the attention of the council as if it were something she personally stands for, and would do it well too. She recognises her weaknesses and things she doesn't know, and I think that it takes a lot to be able to be honest with others and yourself about it, and shows, along with her trying new things already, that she is not going to let these gaps in personal knowledge hold her back. We, collectively as a low sec group, would benefit from Sugar's representation. I still believe that and even more so reading all her responses to questions posed here.
To my alliance, and at the risk of being relentlessly trolled :P, I agree with Harrigan's sentiment just now: 'should she win a seat, help her understand the things she doesn't know and enable and empower her to empower you.' As a newer member, I'm sitting and listening and learning (ALMOST) every moment I sit on comms or in chat channels. You guys have a lot of knowledge, a lot of ideas and thoughts, and I know that Sugar would, like mentioned before, listen to each and everyone of them. I understand if other people have a different idea, and everyone's entitled to their opinions (as far as I know, there are no SC members running- currently), but I think if we got behind Sugar, it would be a great thing for low sec collectively. Just my opinion :) |
Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
42
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Posted - 2014.02.16 04:38:00 -
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Our trolling/comments/observations here shouldn't be mistaken for direct attacks on Sugar; we are not publically attemptingto shame this candidate as an alliance. Any platform needs to be scrutinised and challenged adequately.
SC is a voting demographic in lowsec, part of the bloc of lowsec entities who possess titan bridge force projection and capital numbers. We came here in force because we're concerned about the "curriculum vitae" of Sugar. Her platform is fine, we don't question her oratory skills or her ability to seek consultation (which is a very crucial trait to have as a leader/representative).
Say, you were applying to the job position of Health and Safety Manager in a factory but you had never done any H&S inspections before but had worked in a factory your whole life. As you sit down for the job interview, your employer will ask "Hmm, you appear to have never done a health and safety risk assesment but you have worked in a factory your whole life." That kind of criticsm is not a direct attack on Sugar's person -- we are questioning her experience as her platform is based on her own role and place she has in lowsec.
As the purpose of any CSM platform thread is to scrutinise and allow candidates to engage with their demographics, we are here to ask how she intends to reach out to us as a particular bloc of lowsec residents. You may ask what concerns we have that are peculiar to us and not to every other lowsec resident (eg. stabbed plexers), I'm sure there are many concerns but off the top of my head: the role of supercapitals in lowsec, do they belong there, how can they be balanced to encourage lowsec residents who want to fly them to not just go off to nullsec, etc.
We have seen in any kind of political arena that representatives who base their platforms on their character traits of being able to take consultation and listen to advice, and are coming from a labelled "niche" sector, often do not pull the punches. Ergo, convince us to vote for you -- not every voter will be awed by a manifesto or CV, irrespective of how good it is. War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.
My blog, Civire Commander: http://civre.blogspot.co.uk/ |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
2224
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Posted - 2014.02.16 04:41:00 -
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lol wtf is a ``shadow cartel``
you are no one, and you decide nothing. quit embarrassing yourselves Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Doomchinchilla
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
25
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Posted - 2014.02.16 05:47:00 -
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Here's a simple solution. Would you(Sugar Kyle) be open for hoping on our comms, not sure if you're US or EU tz, and at least allowing us a chance to talk with you? It seems that Naughty Cargo is pretty strong in saying that you're up for the task and you seem smart enough. This is our chance to meet Sugar Kyle. I'm not sure why everyone is so hostile to questions pertaining to experience and everything, that's what this is for.
Dividing people and pushing others away with insults won't help the situation. We're all in the end looking for the same thing. A CSM representative for the LS voice, one that hasn't been on the council... ever, really. Noone is saying that a person is more elite than another, just that some have different life styles in LS than another. |
Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
61
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:04:00 -
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And you assume your presence as an entity is more important than all others because of your stance as if you're the be all end all of low sec.
Why does Sugar "have to come on to your comms?
I couldn't get into one of your corps. once upon a time because one of your alliance directors was in a corp that was in an alliance that the corp I was in at the time was in and those bads lost a super. As a result my corp realized how bad that alliance was and joined the alliance - PHEW - that killed the super. As a result I wasn't allowed to join due to paranoia. Do you remember bagger? You let your alliance underlings control a single dude who wanted to join just to enjoy the stinking game by flying with you guys.Yet now, your alliance houses many members of that same corp from back then only under a new name, GPC.
Not to hijack this thread. The point is SC, you're making yourself more self important to low sec than you really are. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
2228
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Posted - 2014.02.16 07:03:00 -
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Anyone claiming to represent the :shadowcartel: is going to get blackballed because their membership are awful twats.
Congratulations on so efficiently counteracting your own efforts through your embarrassing hubris. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
ChYph3r
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2014.02.16 08:26:00 -
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Doomchinchilla wrote:Here's a simple solution. Would you(Sugar Kyle) be open for hoping on our comms, not sure if you're US or EU tz, and at least allowing us a chance to talk with you? It seems that Naughty Cargo is pretty strong in saying that you're up for the task and you seem smart enough. This is our chance to meet Sugar Kyle. I'm not sure why everyone is so hostile to questions pertaining to experience and everything, that's what this is for.
Dividing people and pushing others away with insults won't help the situation. We're all in the end looking for the same thing. A CSM representative for the LS voice, one that hasn't been on the council... ever, really. Noone is saying that a person is more elite than another, just that some have different life styles in LS than another.
I'm sure if Sugar makes it to the next round of the election process that Sugar will be doing all the podcasts as previous candidates have done in elections past. Take some time out to listen to them and then you can make your decision. Why would she need to come on to your coms to impress you. It makes you seem arrogant, and no one likes arrogance.
Or one of you dorks in SC get off your lazy asses and run. Instead of coming on the forums here and liter a candidates announcement page. Because you think your cool. Want to find all the podcasts around EVE Online visit http://evepodcasts.com @chyph3r-á on Twitter
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Jasmine Panzer
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.02.16 10:02:00 -
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+1 for Sugar
And +1,000 for timer rollbacks in FW plexes.
Sugar, you'll hear many different opinions on how to fix the 'cloaky stabbed farmer problem'. But please consider that the most popular alternative to timer rollbacks, which is limiting cloaks and/or stabs in plexes, will not achieve anything! Because you can just as easily farm with an empty hull: just run away. Also cloaks and stabs are a legitimate game mechanic that can have fun and creative uses, even in plexes, as you metioned yourself.
On the contrary, timer rollbacks favor the gal/guy who is willing to fight, making farming impossible in busy/active systems, which is exactly what pvp-ing FW people want.
+1 also to the idea you mentioned about a difficult-to-exploit mechanic to give more kill LP to the active pilots, a great idea!
Thanks for stepping up for lowsec. |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
394
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Posted - 2014.02.16 10:19:00 -
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I've been working through this thread one by one hoping that answering and catching up would allow for cool down as I reached each question.
A lot of the back and forth of the thread is not doing anything but creating a loop where people on each side (for sadly there are sides in this) feel the need to defend. Each defense looks like an attack to the one just defended from and the cycle continues.
I'll continue to work through the thread but the answer to the, "Will you come and chat?" is yes. I'll also be asking what are we chatting about and how do you wish to structure the chat. Is this an actual conversation or is it something else? I'll also be taking a lot of that to mail or other communication channels now that I hope the general question has been answered. I understand that text and other people's questions are not enough. There is also the aspect of willingness. If I am not willing to talk to people right now why would I be willing to do so later?
There are a lot of things to reply to in this thread. I am glad that there has been this much interest and I will continue to work through the things addressed to me. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Epigene
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
34
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Posted - 2014.02.16 13:29:00 -
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I love your blog and am looking forward to hear more about your platform for CSM.
__________________________ My Blog: -ásplatus.wordpress.com-á |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2670
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:41:00 -
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As I'm the kind of person to stick his oar (Ore! Veldspar for everyone!) in, it may be beneficial if people define the play styles and issues for lowsec. That way Sugar can address them, and you can get insight into her mind. Which is what you want for a candidate.
Such as:
Style: Faction warfare Issue: People killing Mister Mittens.
Style: Piracy Issue: lack of victims.
Style: General Issue: Lack of incentive to enter lowsec.
Style: General Issue: Perfect intel due to local.
And so on. (I'm a day tripper to lowsec, so I'm obviously missing styles and issues) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Miss Carry
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
19
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:54:00 -
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sugar fer prezident!!!
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Paul Tsukaya
Tsukaya Light Industries
72
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:25:00 -
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As someone who's spent most of time in eve in lowsec, it's very hard to not vote for sugar unless another lowsec candidate runs.
Yeah she's not perfect, but the fact that she actually lives in lowsec and the other candidates don't, get my vote. |
CW Itovuo
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
16
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:40:00 -
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TEXN stamp of approval.
It'd be good to have a proper low-sec villainess in office. |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
408
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:12:00 -
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Chitsa Jason wrote:SmarncaV2 wrote:So. Currently lowsec is infested with t1 cloaky stabbed frigates. What would you do about that? What would you change to get people to fly bigger ships?
PS. I'm also an alt CSM does not change EvE Online it is CCP who does that ;) There should be long text on what CSM does here but narwhals ate it
Thank you for this reminder.
Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Hurome
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
1
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:20:00 -
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Wow you've come a long way since we first showed u the ropes around klingt/heg Sugar!
You defo got The Herald vote mostly cuz I know you but also because low-sec sure needs some dev love! |
Ali Aras
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
545
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:39:00 -
[117] - Quote
I would like to throw in my support as well. I've followed Sugar Kyle's blog and enjoyed her posts and her perspective. I've also enjoyed undoubtedly blowing her up a few times :P CSM 9 could absolutely use a strong lowsec representative, and I will have her on my ballot come election-time.
Here's a somewhat broad/softball question that I'm nonetheless interested in: what do you see as the purpose of lowsec? Who lives there, and what do they get from it? Let me know if that's a bit too vague, I can clarify, possibly by example. http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
408
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:11:00 -
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Viceorvirtue wrote:On the topic of the New Player Expierence. Many players feel the NPE still needs much work. Personally I think that there should certainly be more of an emphasis on the fact that you can die to people even in hisec if you aren't docked up. Additionally many of the mechanics such as corp management and pos management are not explained in any tutorial, making it frustrating for even veterans of the game to manage. What are some of the areas, in any, you feel the NPE is lacking in and why?
IGÇÖm almost done with a walk through of the new player tutorials. My first response was that they are much smoother. More is explained then when I started. Popup windows show up in space for the very first steps Aura walks the player through to show them that the items in space are clickable. In many other games the interactable object has some type of glow to it.
My biggest, immediate complaint is that there is no mention of double clicking in space to maneuver your ship. I wrote a post in the features and ideas thread about that.
Are Corporation and POS management things that belong in the New Player Experience? There is a difference between having guides available to properly use features in the game and the content that brand new players are walked through to get their space legs. While corporation and POS management are important they are also things better suited for the Evelopedia.
As for the emphasis, what are your ideas on increasing it? It is very easy to scare people to the point that they refuse to interact with others. What is a happy balance that new players will actually read or somehow see in front of them?
IGÇÖve suggested more bulletin boards. If the current ones are obscure code maybe we need new ones. Things that the new players could see and interact with outside of the station. IGÇÖd also like to open a can of worms and suggest that the CaptainGÇÖs QuarterGÇÖs get some interactable things inside of it. A lot of players in rookie chat ask, GÇ£What is the purpose of the CQ?GÇ¥ It has almost nothing to interact with, yet it should be filled to overflowing with all of this information. It is pretty. It is also useless. Yet, new player after new player explores it expecting it to be useful It is already there so make it interactable. The similar place in Dust is intractable in a sensible way and I use it whenever I play.
Viceorvirtue wrote:What are some of the areas, in any, you feel the NPE is lacking in and why?
I like the NPE a lot. I think CCP can link to their numerous videos as well as the Evelopedia. I think there is a limit to how much we can cram into the direct NPE. Instead, we need to look at what we can add to easily give access to information.
The MOTD in Rookie chat is very useful and very full of information. Most do not even know it is there because the channel moves so fast. What if MOTDs moved to a separate window that attached to the neocom. It can be removed easily but new players can see the valuable information on it. This extends beyond new players because people fill MOTDs with useful things from fleets, to chat rooms, to public events.
There needs to be a more obvious push to the SOE Epic Arc as well. Combined with the NPE that easily covers the first 1-2 weeks for a new player and gets them hooked into the game. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
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When I first saw that article, I thought it was an elegant idea and one that I like a lot. Force projection is a buzzword this year. I do not think that we will have the luxury of ignoring this topic. Instead we need to enter upon discussion of how force projection in general affects low sec. It is going to have to be viewed and looked at from every angle. There is not a low sec force projection and a null sec force projection. It is the same mechanic even if used in different ways. I personally worry over being swept up in a nerf bat aimed at a non-low sec group without any thought as to the low sec groups who use and depend upon these mechanics.
The regenerative pool was appealing because it forces decision making in the same way that moving items with a jump freighter or carrier involve packing. It solves a GÇ£what about me, the little guy?GÇ¥ question where one person manages the logistics for a larger group of people or small groups who use big assets in smaller ways. It creates diminishing returns. I wonGÇÖt brand it as, GÇ£THEGÇ¥ solution but it is a very interesting step sideways. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
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Benny Ohu wrote:
the solution isn't to limit what players can do [mod nerfs in plex], this is hamfisted and bad
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Thank you. I'm adding this to my "Faction Warfare Complexes as a major topic" file.
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