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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Litus Arowar Edited by: Litus Arowar on 11/04/2006 08:10:54 well speaking of symmetry we haven't seen the caldari design, and the amarr, gallente, and minmatar designs are largely symmetric
orly?
obviesly you dont fly Minmatar very often.
Minmatars got 2 symmetrcal frigates from old designer 3 symetrical cruiser from old designer zero symetrical BS's from old designer 1 symmetric destr and *gasp* 1 symetrical BC from new designer
Galentte got: 1 symetrical figate from old designer Zero symetrical cruisers (no vexor is not symmetrical) 1 symetrical BS ..¿
so symmetry away!
This isn't exactly accurate.
Most ships bar caldari are mostly symmetrical, with minor differences; take for instance the Megathron, it's symmetrical, but with minor doodads on each side; ditto for Vexor, tristan, incursus, etc.
Symmetry - sure. But not 100% symmetry.
Utterly asymmetrical ships are cool, so are almost symmetrical ones - and completely symmetrical ones, when used in moderation.
Respect the Domi. Or else.
SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
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BadManEdmundo
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:51:00 -
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That Amarr looks so sinister and threatening and suits the role perfectly, a name such as "Decimator" would go quite well. The Minmatar battleship is very similar to the Bellicose in a sense it doesnÆt look sturdy and isn't meant for close range combat, and with the long sweeping bays on the sideÆs looks like drone bays, could this be a Minmatar drone carrier? The Gallente I look at with confusion, I presume the small raised part of the design behind the disc is the 'Bridge' or Command Deck so to speak, with the disc being the engines, but without knowing the role, I cant think what would suite its design. The Megathron features a sweeping design for its indication of speed for its close range blasters, and the Dominix with its centralising design as it holds a large drone bay and improved tanking ability. But I always admire Concept art and they are extremely impressive, and with artwork form the Asian characters, I hope these designs are used on the final production.
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Jared VonBargen
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mjala THE CALDARI TIER3 BS!!!!!!11111
see, bandwidth blocks views now.....it was a hoax, caldari wont ever get a non-missile BS :(
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shaqarava
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: shaqarava on 11/04/2006 23:15:36 The Amarrian one is great, looks like an Amarrian/Caldari hybrid; with Caldari style crude utilitarian inner structure and Amarrian style grandios plating. Maybe it can be of Khanid origin.
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:57:00 -
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I've heard of 'navy' versions of ships.... but there's 'pirate' versions? This is the first i've heard of this.
How do you get them... and how do they look differently?
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "Doesn't EVE run on any resolution?"
Think it does... it works for me at least, can select modes like 1280 x 7xx which are widescreen ratio... and it works fine o.O;
Except for the (sometimes severe) distortion at the edges. Though I don't know if that is what Glarion Garnier was talking about.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 12/04/2006 00:14:08
"Except for the (sometimes severe) distortion at the edges. Though I don't know if that is what Glarion Garnier was talking about."
Edge distortion is a pretty normal effect of perspective used in game -- the camera 'sees' 60+ degree field, but this field is drawn on flat monitor screen which often covers smaller area of space in real world than these 60+ degrees in front of you, to boot... can't do really much about it short of narrowing the field of view (which would actually have nice side-effect of making your ship appear 'bigger)
It's possible game engine scales the field of vision to screen aspect ratio -- i.e. the wider the screen, the larger is field camera renders at once ... which in turn makes this distortion more pronounced.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rosalina Sarinna
Originally by: hired goon All these designs are bad, very bad.
Thats not fair to say unless you can give detail as to why they dont suit their faction / role or whatever.
Well, I feel they are not very representative of the respective races styles. Discorporation pretty much brought up the points I'd say.
The ship designer interviewed in EON sounded like he knew what he was talking about. He stated how you can't simply design a ship then make it bigger and blam - titan. You have to take the scale into consideration.
For example the 'fish fins' on a tempest are also present on Naglfars and Sandcrawlers. They're just smaller and less noticable.
And look at the titans as the extreme example. They could all just be similar looking blobs - one brown, one yellow, one grey and one green. But zoom in and the racial details become apparent. -omg-
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Orree
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist Just saw these earlier today, geez, links spread fast on irc.
They all look cool, admittedly, but I have a few things I'd like to say.. maybe the artist is reading.
Amarr - too little armor plating, especially in the front.. its also my opinion that the providence would make a better tier 3 battlship, and this could become a better freighter. But hey, providence looks like it could destroy a planet :|
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Totally agree. I always said it was a crime there are no guns on the providence. I love that model.
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.04.12 01:00:00 -
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I think they all have promise, gallente is a bit naff but most things do when you can only see a fully 2d version. One thing ive noticed is all 3 have 8 turret hardpoints (amarr and minmatar evenly along the sides, and gall 4 on each side of the front/back i assume). Possibly so devs can subtract them if they need to when they finalise the slot layouts.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.12 01:22:00 -
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Of course theres always the possibility that they may be Battlecruiser models.
Cus were getting new BC's.
SO I don't know if these are all bS or if they are all BC's, or if theres some of each.
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Kernel Sander
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Posted - 2006.04.12 01:29:00 -
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Is it just me or does the Gallente one look like it is in the act of putting on a giant condom?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling Of course theres always the possibility that they may be Battlecruiser models.
Cus were getting new BC's.
SO I don't know if these are all bS or if they are all BC's, or if theres some of each.
They are labelled as battleships. Even if they were not, the scale implied by window size would definetly suggest something battleship size. _ __
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:22:00 -
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Fair nuff Meridius, but the artist may not know the difference between a BC and a BS and even if he does theres no gauruntees till its on Tranq.
Remember the Mammoth was originally a minnie Battleship as well.
I just wish sisi was up with these suckers on them
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:34:00 -
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Since the new minnie BS seems to be the bellicose's bigger brother... I can't belive anyone hasn't pointed this out..
Target painter bonus?
Respect the Domi. Or else.
SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
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Franky B
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:39:00 -
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anyone else see the resemblance of the minny BS frontend with the egyptian god anubis?
http://www.linsdomain.com/gods&goddesses/pictures/relief-anubis.jpg
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Lefia
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:42:00 -
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If the minmatar battleship is gonna look like that I better start training up my projectile skills.
Originally by: hired goon I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: shaqarava Edited by: shaqarava on 11/04/2006 23:17:42 The Amarrian one is great, looks like an Amarrian/Caldari hybrid; with Caldari style crude, utilitarian inner structure and Amarrian style grandiose plating. Maybe it can be of Khanid origin.
Now to wait for the navy and/or pirate versions of these ships to come out
I believe I've just documented the only time someone used "great" and "Khanid" in the same sentence... god I hope it's not gonna be a khanid BS, cause if it is, the complaints will never stop
but I think we're safe cause Khanid does tech2... so, it's more likely that it won't be Khanid (ie: split slots, split hitpoints, split bonuses)
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.04.12 03:29:00 -
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i duno i think the matari one looks very similar to the geddon.
the amarr one isnt typical amarr really, amarr are very stream line with more curves and what can only be explained as aerodynamic, but this is clearly not.
The Gallente one i feel needs something more that 'disk' in the middle needs to go.
They are all wonderfully detailed tho. But there not typical for there race. --------------------------------------------------------
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.04.12 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny Twoshoe Nine times out of ten the concept art for a ship or ships is far more badass than the final ship model.
Just look at the concept for "Amarr Fighter", which seems to be the Executioner.
That Amarr BS concept is stunning, though.
No, thats the Templar.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.12 04:16:00 -
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Wow love the look of the Minmatar ships. Would definatly stop the snickering.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
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Posted - 2006.04.12 05:46:00 -
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can the minnie ship be a close up specialist with some structural integrity?
100% projectile fitting for high-slots Better tanking
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:12:00 -
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Those are looking neat, except the Gallente one is a side view so you really can't say what it acctually looks like.
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Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:28:00 -
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I like the gallente BS, its cool, probably better without the disk... maybe some thorax like winglets instead.. but i'd still buy one... ______________________________________________ Tiridus |
Tarri
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:42:00 -
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I love the minmatar one, i hoped it would be the same colour as the stiletto and it got it And silver and red is imo even better on a bs then silver and blue. I don't see why minnie ships must all look the same, their old BS where build with what they had at that time but now with more ressources why shouldnt their new bs be all streamlined and good looking .
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:52:00 -
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The Minmatar design is, in my opinion, a better theme than the heavily deconstructed look currently. The sleek look, the same style of the vigil, conveys the sense of minmatar speed much better than the 'scrapheap' look does. ---
Originally by: Sarmaul nm, that says lub not lube
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:05:00 -
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I want the wings on the minnie BS to be angled backwards. Would look more dangerous then.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata |
Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nifel I want the wings on the minnie BS to be angled backwards. Would look more dangerous then.
I agree, it'd look like a sweet metal shark that way :)
as for the "old look" matar vs the "new look" matar, I think they might update all the ships to look less scrapheap with the graphical overhaul that's coming soon™... it'd make a lot of sense, as matar are well past the whole "fledgling rebellion" and are a real powerhouse now... ships being overhauled to look more in line with this concept art would make sense... I personally don't like the particular design, but I do like the "look", and could see all matar ships being overhauled into a more polished, industrial look...
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:17:00 -
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The Gallentean "disk": I sort of like it, and to be honest it's needed to take away from the whole ***** and buttplug references. I honestly think there should be more disks (and other protrusions). Not necessarily pi*r^2 disks, but they could be deformed to let engine exhausts from engines located on other disks infront through, etc.
Also, I'm really missing a ship that'd imply good old-fashioned artificial gravity through rotation.
Arkanor > Gallente missileboat might be cool. KilROCK > Pod yourself till you got no skills left |
wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:48:00 -
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<3 cool where caldari ?
wierchas 4tw |
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