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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:55:00 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:I have no interest in subjecting myself to an interview with those who not only affiliate themselves with this individual, but who believe that this "issue" warrants discussion in place of useful debate on the CSM itself and my potential candidacy for it.
In regards to me affiliating myself with EN24... They are a platform for me to share my content, I do not have any sort of powers within EN24 that allows me to stop other editors from posting their articles. It is not like we are a gang and we all share the same opinions and we do not discuss every evening what articles to post, it doesn't work like that.
EN24 has done amazing things for me by allowing me to post my podcast and my videos. I do not post anything else and I do not take sides. I respect everyone on the EN24 team for what they bring to the table, but to suggest that there is any sort of affiliation atmosphere is just nonsense. Just because some articles on EN24 are controversial doesn't mean I should stop being an editor.
If you have that mindset, then I think a CSM position is going to be hard for you, since it takes a lot of diplomatic and communication skills. Meaning, if you are presented with an issue, you should address it and not throw it aside.
In regards to whether or not I believe this issue warrents discussion... In this matter I am a simple Eve Player. I am not informed about your issues, all I have to go on is what I read on the forums and what I read on other websites, so as far as warranting the discussion, I am like any other person on this forum who reads a story and has concerns about it and who wants to know who he is voting for. If you don't take the time to address the issue, I am going to have to make up my own mind and probably not vote for you.
I am an honest person, I will voice my own opinons and I do not speak for anyone but myself and I certainly do not want to troll you or throw you underneath the bus but I do think that you are responsible for your own campaign and it's your responsibility to approach me or anyone else who has concerns... not the other way around. Host at Legacy Of A Capsuleer Podcast: Http://www.legacyofacapsuleer
Editor On EveNews24: Http://www.evenews24.com |
Vayeate Marquise
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:55:00 -
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do you think that your experience in bombers bar (SP?) and specter fleet has taught you anything useful for your csm run? Problem? ~.~ |
Myo Megas
Vengance Inc. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 21:20:00 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:Jayne Fillon wrote:I have no interest in subjecting myself to an interview with those who not only affiliate themselves with this individual, but who believe that this "issue" warrants discussion in place of useful debate on the CSM itself and my potential candidacy for it. In regards to me affiliating myself with EN24... They are a platform for me to share my content, I do not have any sort of powers within EN24 that allows me to stop other editors from posting their articles. It is not like we are a gang and we all share the same opinions and we do not discuss every evening what articles to post, it doesn't work like that. EN24 has done amazing things for me by allowing me to post my podcast and my videos. I do not post anything else and I do not take sides. I respect everyone on the EN24 team for what they bring to the table, but to suggest that there is any sort of affiliation atmosphere is just nonsense. Just because some articles on EN24 are controversial doesn't mean I should stop being an editor. If you have that mindset, then I think a CSM position is going to be hard for you, since it takes a lot of diplomatic and communication skills. Meaning, if you are presented with an issue, you should address it and not throw it aside. In regards to whether or not I believe this issue warrents discussion... In this matter I am a simple Eve Player. I am not informed about your issues, all I have to go on is what I read on the forums and what I read on other websites, so as far as warranting the discussion, I am like any other person on this forum who reads a story and has concerns about it and who wants to know who he is voting for. If you don't take the time to address the issue, I am going to have to make up my own mind and probably not vote for you. I am an honest person, I will voice my own opinons and I do not speak for anyone but myself and I certainly do not want to troll you or throw you underneath the bus but I do think that you are responsible for your own campaign and it's your responsibility to approach me or anyone else who has concerns... not the other way around.
Some would rather deflect than answer, also its funny jayne you say others start roumors or lies about you and the first page of this thread is you lying about others stealing isk and making things up. When this is your response to peoples concerns about you and your agenda how can you expect people to want you to be their voice to CCP |
Jayne Fillon
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Posted - 2014.02.26 21:37:00 -
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Vayeate Marquise wrote:do you think that your experience in bombers bar (SP?) and specter fleet has taught you anything useful for your csm run? If not directly, than certainly through the people who I have flown with and learnt from. Dealing with people in a public setting when feelings get hurt or things go wrong is never fun, but somebody has to do the dirty work to keep things running. In terms of being useful to my CSM run, the easiest take away I have from flying previously with Bombers Bar and now with Spectre Fleet is that I've found my passion and what I enjoy in the game. There are many others who enjoy this game much in the same way, whether their choice of activity is incursions, griefing, or open fleets. That's a part of the game I think I can provide valuable insight on, beyond my understanding of PvP mechanics. Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI. |
Myo Megas
Vengance Inc. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 21:39:00 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:Vayeate Marquise wrote:do you think that your experience in bombers bar (SP?) and specter fleet has taught you anything useful for your csm run? If not directly, than certainly through the people who I have flown with and learnt from. Dealing with people in a public setting when feelings get hurt or things go wrong is never fun, but somebody has to do the dirty work to keep things running. In terms of being useful to my CSM run, the easiest take away I have from flying previously with Bombers Bar and now with Spectre Fleet is that I've found my passion and what I enjoy in the game. There are many others who enjoy this game much in the same way, whether their choice of activity is incursions, griefing, or open fleets. That's a part of the game I think I can provide valuable insight on, beyond my understanding of PvP mechanics.
do the dirty work and keep things running? god i hope you arnt using your time in bombers bar a an example of your leadership or how you "keep things running" |
Anya Klibor
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
653
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Posted - 2014.02.27 05:10:00 -
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Just for the record:
I am by no means a Jayne fanboi. Never will be, but I'd think he and I are at least on neutral terms. That being said, Seraph has had a long and noted history of causing nothing but drama any way he can, and holding grudges far longer than he should. Seraph suffers from classic narcissism, and there is little that can be done to help him, because he has to be willing to help himself.
Do I think Jayne would make a good CSM member? Yes, I do. If you're more interested in the ravings of a man who has little social skills and no networking outside of whatever little group he is part of, then go ahead and continue to spout the same crap he is. But understand, ISD and CCP have shot him down multiple times, and Bobmon would do well to take down the article as well. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.27 05:32:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Just for the record:
I am by no means a Jayne fanboi. Never will be, but I'd think he and I are at least on neutral terms. That being said, Seraph has had a long and noted history of causing nothing but drama any way he can, and holding grudges far longer than he should. Seraph suffers from classic narcissism, and there is little that can be done to help him, because he has to be willing to help himself.
Do I think Jayne would make a good CSM member? Yes, I do. If you're more interested in the ravings of a man who has little social skills and no networking outside of whatever little group he is part of, then go ahead and continue to spout the same crap he is. But understand, ISD and CCP have shot him down multiple times, and Bobmon would do well to take down the article as well.
Well with an endorsement from Quen, what more do I need to say Jayne? |
Anya Klibor
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
654
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Posted - 2014.02.27 08:03:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:Just for the record:
I am by no means a Jayne fanboi. Never will be, but I'd think he and I are at least on neutral terms. That being said, Seraph has had a long and noted history of causing nothing but drama any way he can, and holding grudges far longer than he should. Seraph suffers from classic narcissism, and there is little that can be done to help him, because he has to be willing to help himself.
Do I think Jayne would make a good CSM member? Yes, I do. If you're more interested in the ravings of a man who has little social skills and no networking outside of whatever little group he is part of, then go ahead and continue to spout the same crap he is. But understand, ISD and CCP have shot him down multiple times, and Bobmon would do well to take down the article as well. Well with an endorsement from Quen, what more do I need to say Jayne? By the way Quen, what hand did Jayne have in your departure?
You really do not get what "leaving stuff in the past" means, do you?
Are you like...really ********? |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.27 08:17:00 -
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Just a question... |
Luwc
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2014.02.27 08:34:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Who can forget. Seriously though I was curious about what your platform was concerning some of the EULA rulings. Most recently certain rules were updated, revised or clarified depending on your perspective concerning alliance logos and the ruling on impersonating individuals and/or in game entities. What's your take on that?
hahahahaha **** off carebear
Also BLOC THE VOTE http://crossingzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/fatbee.png |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:47:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! I also would like to point out the post by our Vice Admiral Eshtir and especially the warnings therein.
The rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the well being and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Anya Klibor
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
658
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Posted - 2014.02.28 00:35:00 -
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Good to see the place is being kept clean, even if it is a few days late. ;) |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.28 00:40:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:...That being said, Seraph has had a long and noted history of causing nothing but drama any way he can, and holding grudges far longer than he should. Seraph suffers from classic narcissism, and there is little that can be done to help him, because he has to be willing to help himself...
They missed this part. ^
Not sure why me asking what role Jayne played in Anya (Quen's) role in departing was deleted. Honest question. Anya/Quen, do you remember? |
Anya Klibor
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
658
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Posted - 2014.02.28 00:45:00 -
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You know what, no. I'm not taking the bait. I'm not helping you derail this thread any more than you have tried to. Normal people let go of grudges, and I did that with Jayne and Ezek. You haven't let go of anything, and conitnue to blame everyone but yourself for your own failures in this game.
Go back to EN24 and continue to post on crap you know nothing about, or back to C&P to continue yo shiptoasting. This is not the place for your ramblings and need for validation. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.28 00:58:00 -
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I'm not sure what you're on about. |
Myo Megas
Vengance Inc. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:21:00 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:If you'd like to ask me a question or just chat, don't be a stranger! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, or alternatively you can come and join us in the "Spectre Fleet" channel - meet people, hang out, join fleets, and have fun! UPDATES:Seraph IX Barasab posted this article on the 26th of February, regarding an alleged EULA and TOS violation. In the pursuit of neutrality, I recommend you read it and all accompanying logs, however I will not be fielding questions on the subject. To provide context for this article, Seraph was previously my CEO in the corporation "Hades Effect" before a successful coup d'etat and removal of all remaining and inactive members. His article on EN24 is a continuation in his many attempts at slander, after his defamation efforts failed in this very thread when ISD purged his numerous posts here and again here. Furthermore, before the article on EN24 was published, he tried one last time at drumming up controversy in the General Discussion section of the forums here. Seraph is on a personal vendetta and is using EN24 as his last available mouthpiece to perpetuate this "scandal". If this is how you arrived at my thread, I hope as a result you stay a while and read some of what has already been posted. My goal to be elected to the CSM is legitimate, and if you have any questions relevant to the CSM or the future of Eve itself, I will more than happily answer them. Thanks for reading!
isnt saying Seraph has a personal vendetta a bit of a rumor/personal opinion? some might feel as if he is right as there are witnesses and logs. ISD keeps deleting posts from people due to comments like this yet you still posting rumors, are CSM canadites above the rules? |
Anya Klibor
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
659
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:42:00 -
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Seraph is on a personal quest to ruin the names of people who left his corproation almost a year agho for greener pastures, and has been for quite some time. Aside from calling him on his lack-of-knowledge on EN24, I have allowed him to do as he sees fit.
The reason this is rumor-mongering (what Seraph is doing) is because he is providing logs, absolutely. But there is no actual proof that this is, in fact, Jayne. I could have a few friends fo mine come in after doctoring some logs saying that Seraph admits to impersonating a member of the CSM, but that's still only rumors as there is no direct proof of the deed. The only way to get that would be to catch him in the act and be recording it for posterity's sake.
Jayne, however, has said, "Look, here's what's going on" and linked to the threads and what-not that Seraph has started, as well as the fact that Seraph's posts have been deleted for the reasons. If yo wish to read what Seraph has written (and were subsequently deleted) then feel free to go to Chribba's site and look it up. Otherwise, read through what Jayne has said and make a decision based on that for his CSM position.
This thread is about a CSM candidate, not about a single man's vendetta against him. |
Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:53:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:...That being said, Seraph has had a long and noted history of causing nothing but drama any way he can, and holding grudges far longer than he should. Seraph suffers from classic narcissism, and there is little that can be done to help him, because he has to be willing to help himself...
They missed this part. ^ Not sure why me asking what role Jayne played in Anya (Quen's) role in departing was deleted. Honest question. Anya/Quen, do you remember?
Why not just take it to a private convo rather than clutter up Jayne Fillion's CSM candidacy thread? What bearing does Jayne's role in when Anya leaving a corp have on his ability to represent the greater player base he will represent as a CSM member? LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:34:00 -
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I'm asking things about Jayne yet some of you seem more interested in talking about me. Let's stay on topic.
Seriously Anya/Quen, mail me in game if you want to talk.
Moving on... |
Jasen Harper
Hancock Development Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:38:00 -
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I'll be voting for Jayne come election time. The Templis Dragonaurs are an ultra-nationalist Caldari terrorist organization whose origins date back to the Tikiona States. They are the most anti-Gallentean political entity in New Eden, and were secretly involved in the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor. |
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Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:45:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Moving on...
If only you took that advice the first time. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:46:00 -
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If only you'd take the advice right now. |
Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
134
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:07:00 -
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Oh, I never said I was moving on. I just told you to drop your crusade against Jayne in this thread. Please though, write another eloquent article about things someone supposedly did in a very vague interpretation of the rules and shout about it at the top of your lungs. Then when finished, make your in-game bio about it so people can see how non-personal this is.
Or on the other hand you could be the adult you most likely claim to be and let the people who do their jobs regarding this, you know, do their jobs. Defamation of character in an article also isn't exactly becoming of a would be "journalist", just hope that helps for your next piece about "only EVE stuff."
Back on topic, I have another question for you Jayne.
Assuming you are elected, how do you feel your contributions outside of your CSM role will be affected. You write for an EVE centered video game news site, do you plan to use your CSM status to promote your ideals and/or point of views or do you plan to maintain your mantra of neutrality? Arguably one of your CSM mentors Ali Aras doesn't tend to output much in the way of articles, mostly due to her role as an editor for the same publication, so I'm curious how you'll address that sort of situation if it were to arise. Would we expect the same sort of features and/or news pieces you do, or do you feel it would likely be lessened due to time and other commitments taken up by your duties as a member of the CSM? One could say it is better for "politicians" to be insulated from news sources, though that's more so about real politics and not internet spaceship pixel land dreamed up by some alcoholic Icelandic guys in the early 2000s. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:48:00 -
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Listen if you have a problem with me, I'll be sure to look it over carefully and consider your words if you go ahead and PM me. Keep this thread about Jayne and his CSM campaign. |
Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
134
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:02:00 -
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Which is why you kept up the rumor mongering despite repeated attempts. Perhaps you should just keep your questions based in reality and not the autistic fantasy land you live in. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
218
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:22:00 -
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All the criticism has been edited out. We're all friends here. Won't you be friends with me too? |
Myo Megas
Vengance Inc. Dirt Nap Squad.
6
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:02:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Which is why you kept up the rumor mongering despite repeated attempts by ISD to get you to stop. Perhaps you should just keep your questions based in reality and not the autistic fantasy land you live in.
now this isnt fair to say, yes some things coul be rumors but others in this thread inculding jayne him self have been rumor mongering, its the way of eve some play the meta game more than others. |
Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
134
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:11:00 -
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Myo Megas wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Which is why you kept up the rumor mongering despite repeated attempts by ISD to get you to stop. Perhaps you should just keep your questions based in reality and not the autistic fantasy land you live in. now this isnt fair to say, yes some things coul be rumors but others in this thread inculding jayne him self have been rumor mongering, its the way of eve some play the meta game more than others.
Firstly, invest in a better typing habit. You're supposed to be an adult so coming across as illiterate doesn't help with any of your attempts at presenting an argument. If English isn't your first language, then you should work on it as this is an English speaking forum. Secondly if you feel that his posts are in violation of forum rules, rather than blabber on about them report them. They made that feature for a reason, continuing to sperg out about how Jayne is allegedly rumor mongering isn't helping prove anything other than you want to make the final decisions on what actions are made. That's not your job, your job is to ask questions to a CSM 9 candidate about his ability to represent the player base. This isn't "Seraph and random DNS kid bad posting about Jayne" time, you can do that in General Discussion or any of the other subforums and/or outlets at your disposal.
Also congrats to Jayne Fillon and members of Spectre Fleet for earning a Dev Spotlight today. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/
Good to see hard work pays off eh Jayne? LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
219
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:31:00 -
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Somehow critique with "bad English" is more thought provoking than your zealous brown nosing, even with your "good English." |
Jayne Fillon
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:39:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:[ Jayne,
In regards to the recent deployable units, specifically the ESS, how do you feel these have affected the gameplay in EVE? Do you believe them to be appropriate and meeting the goals CCP stated publicly for them to serve or do you feel they are lacking?
"meeting the goals CCP stated publicly"
Not going to lie, tried to find this and couldn't - if have a link I'd appreciate it.
Anyway, I'm enjoying the release of the deployables so far a couple reasons: first, I see this trend as CCP trying to promote a "farms and fields" concept to sovereignty by providing new and very dynamic mechanics that can change from system to system, or even from different areas within a system. This focus on easily destroyed and anchored structures add a lot of utility not just in sov, but in a lot of other aspects of the game limited only by the creativity of the player. The ESS specifically has added a brand new incentive not only for PvE pilots, but for PvP pilots of all varieties. Anything that motivates a player to engage in an activity that encourages combat - or any other type of multiplier activity - is a good thing in my book.
This is what I was hoping to find when looking for an official statement from CCP. It's obvious from the mechanics of the ESS that it's meant to be encouraging and enabling piracy, from the share/take options to the warp disruption effect. Even so soon after the ESS was deploed we've seen ratting carriers actively warping to their ESS to defend it, or pirates setting up traps with Marauders and other ridiculous escalation. All of these events were born from an activity that was previously isolationist in nature. Now people are encouraged to defend a single system with an ESS in order to reap the rewards, and everything falls in line after that.
So whether or not I can find the exact intent of CCP when producing this module, I think they've done a great job in encouraging interaction between players, both cooperatively and antagonistically.
Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI. |
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