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Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.17 07:44:00 -
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Hi, My name is Anna and I just started this game couple of days ago. I'm from Czech republic so grammar nazzi's - please proceed to lick an eyeball with a cactus I heard about big titan fight recently and decided to give it a try. I was told to learn about the game basics first because it can be overwhelming experience, they said. So my basic knowledge is theoretical, but I kinda liked the whole ratting thing. Is there any corporation in Amarr space open for recruitment of newbie with lack of skill, but eager to learn and play some ratting? |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
217
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Posted - 2014.02.17 08:07:00 -
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Hi Anna welcome to EVE
You could try looking in the Alliance & Corporation Recruitment Center for corps that might fit your requirements.
Be sure to look for matches based on time zones as well as ingame activities.
There is also a great corp called EVE uni which is dedicated to showing newcomers the ropes. Though there's a lengthy application process as they only want to take in those serious about learning.
Good luck and most importantly have fun!
I love to reload during a battle... There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile, into a well greased chamber... |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1430
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Posted - 2014.02.17 08:20:00 -
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Welcome
Finding a good corporation in EVE is a very different experience then finding a guild/cabal/clan in other games. I would suggest that you read over this guide to help you get an idea of what to look for and what to avoid, and also the different ways of finding the kind of corporation you are looking for.
Good luck Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:00:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Welcome Finding a good corporation in EVE is a very different experience then finding a guild/cabal/clan in other games. I would suggest that you read over this guide to help you get an idea of what to look for and what to avoid, and also the different ways of finding the kind of corporation you are looking for. Good luck
Great promotion of your own material Well played It's really good thread and I'm going to read that so hard right now - I'll let you know I didnt find any corporation with my preffered attributes in Alliance & Corporation Recruitment Center as was stated above. Thanks for advices - and it seems as a good comunity here so far. |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
218
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:55:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote:NightCrawler 85 wrote:Welcome Finding a good corporation in EVE is a very different experience then finding a guild/cabal/clan in other games. I would suggest that you read over this guide to help you get an idea of what to look for and what to avoid, and also the different ways of finding the kind of corporation you are looking for. Good luck Great promotion of your own material Well played It's really good thread and I'm going to read that so hard right now - I'll let you know I didnt find any corporation with my preffered attributes in Alliance & Corporation Recruitment Center as was stated above. Thanks for advices - and it seems as a good comunity here so far.
Just don't wander over into General Discussion I love to reload during a battle... There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile, into a well greased chamber... |
Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:30:00 -
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Just don't wander over into General Discussion [/quote]
Why is that, sir? |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:38:00 -
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Just don't go in there asking for help, try and stick to the more specific forums when you can, ships & modules, skill discussions etc... GD is full of trolls. I love to reload during a battle... There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile, into a well greased chamber... |
Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:42:00 -
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Major 'Revolver' Ocelot wrote:Just don't go in there asking for help, try and stick to the more specific forums when you can, ships & modules, skill discussions etc... GD is full of trolls.
Trolls are fun in general, or not? I mean - if someone else is trolled |
Serafiel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.17 11:58:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote:Hi, My name is Anna and I just started this game couple of days ago. I'm from Czech republic so grammar nazzi's - please proceed to lick an eyeball with a cactus I heard about big titan fight recently and decided to give it a try. I was told to learn about the game basics first because it can be overwhelming experience, they said. So my basic knowledge is theoretical, but I kinda liked the whole ratting thing. Is there any corporation in Amarr space open for recruitment of newbie with lack of skill, but eager to learn and play some ratting? Update: "Based on this useful thread I'd like to add some more information about me. Timezone: Basicly the same as server one -1 so server restart is occured during my noon Further career plan: First of all - I'd like to have fun. Less profit in low security space ratting with cool group of people seems like more fun than Level 5 missions with a blob of individuals (I had to google blob first ). That's it.
Hi and welcome to EVE, Anna :) If you are starting up, I gather the best corporation to join with are either EVE University (of IVY league alliance, no other mind you - as I saw few corporations with very similar names to EVE-Uni), or Brave Newbies.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3694
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Posted - 2014.02.17 12:20:00 -
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Use the guide linked by NC and look in recruitment forums...
As recruitment in any form isnt allowed in this part of the forums. You could on the other hand post a thread in recruitment forums about what you are looking for and see who replies. That forum isnt restricted to make corp adverts, people can also advertise themselfs for future corps.
But I will stress...dont join the first corp you see, do your research on who join.
Ooh and welcome to EVE. Fly safe(ty off). Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
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Jared Lennox
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:30:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote:Hi, My name is Anna and I just started this game couple of days ago. I'm from Czech republic so grammar nazzi's - please proceed to lick an eyeball with a cactus I heard about big titan fight recently and decided to give it a try. I was told to learn about the game basics first because it can be overwhelming experience, they said. So my basic knowledge is theoretical, but I kinda liked the whole ratting thing. Is there any corporation in Amarr space open for recruitment of newbie with lack of skill, but eager to learn and play some ratting? Update: "Based on this useful thread I'd like to add some more information about me. Timezone: Basicly the same as server one -1 so server restart is occured during my noon Further career plan: First of all - I'd like to have fun. Less profit in low security space ratting with cool group of people seems like more fun than Level 5 missions with a blob of individuals (I had to google blob first ). That's it.
Welcome Anna, I hope you will enjoy your stay,
So as others suggested you should look in recruitment forums. You wanna start off with ratting which I guess is fine. To make it profitable enough in my opinion you should rat in null sec. You can start off with missioning since it has mutual sides with ratting.
Second, despite it is fun for some, missioning and ratting kinda burn you out when you do the same thing over and over again. After a while you might be bored of doing same stuff. Just saying...In this case, joining a corporation may be helpful to extend the duration of fun you are having in game. Finding a good corp for your needs is to be honest a huge drama. NightCrawler's guide will help you to get through most of that hassle.
Have you considered doing PvP? As you gave a reference to the big fight, you might be better off with starting your carreer in a PvP Corp. Learn the basics of fleet and how to coordinate. Also if you want to participate in huge fleet battles, I suggest you finding a Null Sec Corp, some of them are really eager to teach you the basics about everything you need to know in Nullsec. Besides when you are in a Nullsec corp you can also rat when there is no action going on. It's a win-win situation in my opinion. http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html |
Woeful Animation
N.F.H.P. SQUEE.
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:05:00 -
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I think this point cannot be overemphasized. Corps and Alliances make Eve as fun as possible. Its a brutally dickish universe, which can become very boring once the initial learning curve has been overcome.
All the suggestions above, are solid advice. The cesspool that is the recruitment channel can be overwhelming and hard to separate the good guys from the bad. But if Eve is your game, finding friends is very important. Finding friends who log on in your time zone is extremely important.
Advice: Make finding a corp one of your top priorities. Heed the advice, and stay with it. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3694
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:12:00 -
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Woeful Animation wrote:I think this point cannot be overemphasized. Corps and Alliances make Eve as fun as possible. Its a brutally dickish universe, which can become very boring once the initial learning curve has been overcome.
All the suggestions above, are solid advice. The cesspool that is the recruitment channel can be overwhelming and hard to separate the good guys from the bad. But if Eve is your game, finding friends is very important. Finding friends who log on in your time zone is extremely important.
Advice: Make finding a corp one of your top priorities. Heed the advice, and stay with it.
I do fully agree to the above but like to add that friends dont always have to be in your corp. Plenty of public channels where you can meet new people and make friends.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
804
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:50:00 -
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Since you already found some very good advice on dealing with corps, I just want to add a word of caution: Take your time selecting the right one for you and don-Št rush it. Also, as reality is quite often very different from what is advertised, don-Št hesitate to leave the Corp if you find you don-Št really fit in either. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Need to advertise your Corp or service? Look no further, this space is now for rent!
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Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:57:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Since you already found some very good advice on dealing with corps, I just want to add a word of caution: Take your time selecting the right one for you and don-Št rush it. Also, as reality is quite often very different from what is advertised, don-Št hesitate to leave the Corp if you find you don-Št really fit in either.
I will. Thanks. It's kinda hard, to know what exactly I'll be doing "when I grow up". Is corporation switching considered as a unloyal behaviour? |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
673
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Posted - 2014.02.18 12:15:00 -
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Not if it's a crap corp, ditch them and move on. BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3700
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Posted - 2014.02.18 12:17:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Since you already found some very good advice on dealing with corps, I just want to add a word of caution: Take your time selecting the right one for you and don-Št rush it. Also, as reality is quite often very different from what is advertised, don-Št hesitate to leave the Corp if you find you don-Št really fit in either. I will. Thanks. It's kinda hard, to know what exactly I'll be doing "when I grow up". Is corporation switching considered as a unloyal behaviour?
That depends.
Hopping from a corp to another if they dont work out...perfectly normal and in future if you explain it most recrukters will understand.
Leaving a corp they get a wardec everytime might get you flagged as someone who doesnt want to standntheir ground together with the group.
Have 20 corps in your history after 22 days (ergo hop corp almost everyday) will get you flagged as not even worth the time as (s)he will leave anyway.
Basically it comes down to the next recruiter, their opinion and most of all how you present yourself and how you explain you employment history. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
804
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Posted - 2014.02.18 12:22:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote: It's kinda hard, to know what exactly I'll be doing "when I grow up".
This is one of the reasons I would advise not to "hurry" finding a Corp but instead try out as many activities as possible. That way you will at least somewhat be able to narrow down on Corps with similar interests. A tempting alternative would be joining a Corp that "does everything", but to my experience, those actually more often than not tend to do nothing.
Hostis Tuus wrote: Is corporation switching considered as a unloyal behaviour?
Yes and no. Nobody should mind someone who has hopped a few Corps in the beginning of his career... everybody understands that Eve Online is a taunting experience with new players needing some time to orient themselves. But eventually, that might raise a few questions, especially if the time of membership is very short: Is this one a Corp thief? A disruptive influence? A freeloader? Never online?
Keep in mind for later that the more "serious" Corps usually tend to do an equally serious check up of your Char and a several page-long employment history is sure to raise some questions.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Need to advertise your Corp or service? Look no further, this space is now for rent!
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Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:31:00 -
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Quick update: I just realized, that asking what can corporations do for me is a completely bad attitude. I have nothing I can offer to any corporation yet. My skills are funny ATM and my real skills are close to zero. I have a lot of fun, but thinking that corporations will be fighting for having me invited was a bad attitude. I'm not a celebrity or something. I'm just another trial user who TRIES. So first of all, I will work on myself, then I will find a suitable corporation to which I can be good and helpful member. Meanwhile I will have some fun with friends I made and who knows, maybe I'll join their corps later on :) Thank you all for very helpful advices - I learned a lot thank to your hints. |
Forest Archer
Explorer Corps Disavowed.
103
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Posted - 2014.02.19 08:27:00 -
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Being a recruiter in past corps and my current one I can say that a recruiter will look at various thing depending on the type of corp. As others have said the big things corp jumping, lack of willingness to participate, trouble getting along, theft. Those are some of the big things. Skills when joining a corp can be more flexible especially when you are willing to try to fit roles to contribute. So don't think you can't be desire able the challenge can be finding a corp that lives where you want and does the activities you want and are willing to train you. If you have more questions you are welcome to mail me. Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. |
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3715
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Posted - 2014.02.19 12:12:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote:Quick update: I just realized, that asking what can corporations do for me is a completely bad attitude. I have nothing I can offer to any corporation yet. My skills are funny ATM and my real skills are close to zero. I have a lot of fun, but thinking that corporations will be fighting for having me invited was a bad attitude. I'm not a celebrity or something. I'm just another trial user who TRIES. So first of all, I will work on myself, then I will find a suitable corporation to which I can be good and helpful member. Meanwhile I will have some fun with friends I made and who knows, maybe I'll join their corps later on :) Thank you all for very helpful advices - I learned a lot thank to your hints.
Heads up on what most good corps look at if you talk to their recruiter in order of importance:
1. Is this a likely spy/awoxer/thief. 2. What type of personality has the person and would it fit in with the group. 3. How much does the player know about the game / is said player open to learn from others and his/her mistakes. 4. How many SP has the player got.
Basically, correct attitude and a good personality can get you much further then high SP amounts. And you ALWAYS have something to offer for a corp that suits you. It might not be much now, but it will grow in time. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6299
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:24:00 -
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One time bump to fix forum. |
Hostis Tuus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:12:00 -
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I just subscribed. You're great people and I'm looking forward to roam with you sometimes :) |
Cassius Clayyy
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
11
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:58:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Ski9g3as4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S21-FS8b6uI
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bravenewbies/
Come join the fun!
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1233
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:29:00 -
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Removed a spam post. Recruitment advertising is prohibited in NC Q&A. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1448
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:49:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote:Quick update: I just realized, that asking what can corporations do for me is a completely bad attitude.
I have to disagree here. This is one of the main questions you should ask, but it depends on how you ask it. This is where you have to be careful with how your word your self and make sure you dont sound like your just looking to join to get "free shinys!"
Sure you dont have a lot of SP right now, but eventually you will, and even with low SP you can still be a great asset to a corporation, and any decent recruiter should realize this and understand that you want to know that in the long run it will be a mutual benefit for you and the corporation.
Joining a corporation without asking this question might lead to you finding your self in a corp that gives you nothing, which in turn will lead to you leaving because there is nothing there for you.
Now also please note.. When you ask what a corp can do for you, you shouldent just think about stuff like.."Hey how many free ships can i get from you guys". Access to BPO's, certain events, social groups, teaching groups, fleet operations, access to different parts of space (depends on if they live in low sec, 0.0 or wh space), research POS's... All these things are things that may or may not benefit you down the line and are things you should know about before you make a decision to join the corporation.
In simple words.. Dont think about what you can gain from the corp "right now", but instead what you can gain from being in that corp 6 months from now. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Hostis Tuus
Crayon Stickers Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 08:22:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Hostis Tuus wrote:Quick update: I just realized, that asking what can corporations do for me is a completely bad attitude.
I have to disagree here. This is one of the main questions you should ask, but it depends on how you ask it. This is where you have to be careful with how your word your self and make sure you dont sound like your just looking to join to get "free shinys!" Sure you dont have a lot of SP right now, but eventually you will, and even with low SP you can still be a great asset to a corporation, and any decent recruiter should realize this and understand that you want to know that in the long run it will be a mutual benefit for you and the corporation. Joining a corporation without asking this question might lead to you finding your self in a corp that gives you nothing, which in turn will lead to you leaving because there is nothing there for you. Now also please note.. When you ask what a corp can do for you, you shouldent just think about stuff like.."Hey how many free ships can i get from you guys". Access to BPO's, certain events, social groups, teaching groups, fleet operations, access to different parts of space (depends on if they live in low sec, 0.0 or wh space), research POS's... All these things are things that may or may not benefit you down the line and are things you should know about before you make a decision to join the corporation. In simple words.. Dont think about what you can gain from the corp "right now", but instead what you can gain from being in that corp 6 months from now.
This is exactly why I love it here. Thanks for advice. Now I'm kinda in "Story of the Three Bears" experience. I'm trying to taste every aspect of the game at least a little, to find what I actualy want to focus on in long term. I've seen some of those level 5 skill times and wrong turn can take me a month or more. I'm lucky I met some great people who are really helpfull.
Thank you again.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3729
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:24:00 -
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That is the correct way of playing if you arent 100% sure what you like. Try anything you want, train it up a bit and try to find out where you want your future to be. You cant judge anything if you havent tried it, and there is totally nothing wrong with trying stuff out as a new player.
The same counts for waiting to search and joining a corp till you think you are ready for it. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Forest Archer
Explorer Corps Disavowed.
106
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:58:00 -
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It can take a while to figure out what you want , I know it did for me. Try all the different space, pvp, pve, blops, run missions, run incursions, run anoms, run wh sites, explore. Trust me there isn't a wrong way to play the game. If you have questions about a particular aspect or way of life we all have different backgrounds we can share to help point you to where you want to go or how to be prepared to try new things just ask us. Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. |
Jared Lennox
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
10
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:27:00 -
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Hostis Tuus wrote: I'm lucky I met some great people who are really helpfull.
Thank you again.
If you found good teachers, then most of the time you should be a good student and prove them if it's worthwhile to teach you stuff.
It is not about learning things quick or immediately deciding on what to do. Both are hard to do in this game and it is going to require some time. Which again will show your worth to your mentor. To be honest nobody would like to dedicate their time to teach someone who will leave the game in 2 months. That is the risk... The person who teaches you don't know if you are going to leave or stay, they just assume it :)
In my opinion if he/she is a good teacher, then s/he should be patient. Tell you the possible outcomes and consequences of your actions. A good mentor shouldn't fill new players with unnecessary info. Also s/he shouldn't drown you in the pool of information either. One step at a time...
A good mentor should really give you choices. He should have knowledge about all parts of EVE and let YOU to decide which path are you going to take while being objective about his opinions.
As for you, if you are overwhelmed by the info you should tell it to your mentor. When people know a lot things they tend to talk a lot :). If you don't understand why or how things went that way you should ask. Don't pretend to understand when you actually didn't.
Don't be afraid to lose stuff... Either call it time or ships. Those times or ships aren't actual losses. They are gains. They show you your mistakes so you can learn from them. If you are doing the same mistake again then it's a loss. Just try everything but focus on one thing. Don't try to be Jack of all trades and master at none. A focused training program after you have an idea of what to do next should be prepared by you under the guidance of your mentor. It will also let you to understand the relationship between different skills etc.
Anyways, to wrap it up, welcome to New Eden once again. Glad to have you here with us.
Fly Dangerously o7 JL http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html |
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