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TorkNor Del'raith
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.10 12:23:00 -
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i been following this now a long time and read alot about what people have asked and you told them back your getting my vote any way but this is what i want to ask are you wanting to try stop people from stealing from other people at the end of the day ESS can be stolen from but only if your silly and not puttin them in the right place then the siphon unit steals moon stuff from POS you want to give people messages when there getting stolen from whats next you going want to give CEO messages every time something getting taken from the corp hangers or POS been able to steal from people and take large or small amounts of ISK or assits is one thing in the world that no other game let's you do and for some people it makes the game more enjoying |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
344
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Posted - 2014.03.10 19:03:00 -
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TorkNor Del'raith wrote:i been following this now a long time and read alot about what people have asked and you told them back your getting my vote any way but this is what i want to ask are you wanting to try stop people from stealing from other people at the end of the day ESS can be stolen from but only if your silly and not puttin them in the right place then the siphon unit steals moon stuff from POS you want to give people messages when there getting stolen from whats next you going want to give CEO messages every time something getting taken from the corp hangers or POS been able to steal from people and take large or small amounts of ISK or assits is one thing in the world that no other game let's you do and for some people it makes the game more enjoying
Tork, no, the ESS is a part of the game now and I wouldn't remove it or even change as such. I just think the design is very clunky and anecdotally / from personal experience, I don't think it is achieving it's goal of causing more fights. I wouldn't modify the ESS but I would use it as a learning point for future mobile deployables - no matter how well intentioned and thought out, if an item isn't relatively intuitive, it won't be used as it deserves to be. www.crossingzebras.com |
Veldruk Grimm
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.12 00:35:00 -
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Ripard Teg
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
850
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:21:00 -
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I'm in the midst of writing a series of blog posts about the changes I've seen over the last few years to EVE's culture. I feel we've become much quicker to embarrass and humiliate each other, much less likely to treat each other with respect, more inclined to see how far we can push another player... see if we can break him... see if we can drive him out of the game or make him snap.
And if successful, we crow "Go back to WoW, you *****!" and we celebrate our "victory."
1) Do you agree? 2) If so, why do you think it's happening? If you disagree, why? 3) What, if anything, do you feel CCP should do about it? Jester's Trek: wherein I ramble about EVE Online, gaming, and from time to time... life. |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:06:00 -
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Ripard Teg wrote:I'm in the midst of writing a series of blog posts about the changes I've seen over the last few years to EVE's culture. I feel we've become much quicker to embarrass and humiliate each other, much less likely to treat each other with respect, more inclined to see how far we can push another player... see if we can break him... see if we can drive him out of the game or make him snap.
And if successful, we crow "Go back to WoW, you *****!" and we celebrate our "victory."
1) Do you agree? 2) If so, why do you think it's happening? If you disagree, why? 3) What, if anything, do you feel CCP should do about it?
I have a funny feeling, especially coming from you, that this is a loaded question Ripard. But here goes...
1) Kind of...
2) Hm. So, I think that by definition, any game that allows the players more freedom, more capacity to be mean or nasty, will attract that sort of person. Eve is a sandbox MMO which attempts to allow people to be as free with their choices and morals as possible. Rules are minimal in comparison to the likes of your example, WoW.
That said, I think your definition of 'horrible players' isn't granular enough. To clarify, I know many incredibly brutal, harsh players who will stalk their foe to the ends of New Eden utilising every tool at their disposal in game to try and kill their prey. Once they have got their kill, the other player may feel embarrassed or humiliated that their skills weren't up to scratch but I don't see that the killer in this example is in any way 'bad' despite being incessant in his search for the hunt.
The guy who sits at his computer relentlessly 0.01ISKing the market because he is a student and has no classes that day. If I am at work that day trying to keep an occasional half eye on my orders and see this guys stomping me at every turn, I'm going to be pissed off but the student isn't doing anything wrong.
So I think a lot of this is subjective to be honest Ripard. If a guy is continuously smart bombing your undock trying to get cheap kills from you, as far as I see it, as frustrating as that may be for you, that is fine in my book. A little playful teasing in local? It's a grey area but as long as it is kept civil, I personally consider it fine.
Telling people to kill themselves and eat a shotgun barrel and all that nonsense? That's not on but I think it's unavoidable (I'll come back to this in answer 3).
So 'more inclined to see how far we can push another player... see if we can break him' - that I have no problem with. It's the inherent nature of the game. To change it would be to fundamentally alter the key best things about Eve.
'humiliate each other, much less likely to treat each other with respect... see if we can drive him out of the game or make him snap.' 'humiliate' is a tough one. I wouldn't set out to humiliate someone by casting dispersions on their parenthood for example. If I can humiliate them by taking advantage of a known in-game loophole to scam someone or by a cool flight manoeuvre or play? That's fine in my book. Maybe afterwards I tell them what they did wrong, maybe I keep it to myself. Either way, I don't see that as disrespectful in any way and if the other dude is humiliated, well I acted well within the rules of the sandbox. What isn't cool in my book, what crossed the line, is going out of the way to abuse the guy in local or in Eve mails or whatever. It's a woolly area though, I'll grant you. A bit of playful banter isn't only fine, I'd personally argue it's some of the best fun in game. I love a bit of back-and-forth in local during fights personally as long as it is kept fun.
Do I go out of my way to drive someone from the game? Absolutely not. Do I accept that if I manage to scam a relatively new player out of their entire 400m fortune that they may leave the game? Sure. In that particular scenario I'd maybe try and talk to the person afterwards and explain to them what they did wrong and I certainly wouldn't laugh at them no matter what. But in making that sort of action - taking their ISK - we have to accept that may be a line for that personal player and they won't come back. Of course, I've also heard countless stories where a bad event early on in a young Eve player's career was the making of them. Losing a bling fit destroyer unnecessarily due to some dastardly pirate inspired them to a career PvPing in lowsec for example.
3) CCP shouldn't change anything mechanically in terms of Eve being a harsh environment. It's what makes Eve special in my eyes. It's what differentiates Eve. It's the root of all those great stories.
Should CCP crack down on bullying, abusive chat in local and in Eve mails and such like? Yes absolutely but I'm inclined to think they probably won't simply due to how manpower intensive such a process is.
Eve Online is fundamentally a game about allowing personal freedoms. It is a game about internet spaceships where you can be whoever you want to be. There are few other games like it in that respect. And we know that given the opportunity, people in an anonymous environment will regress towards a baser version of themselves. Trying to curb this too far destroys the nature of Eve at it's root.
(As a side point, it is fascinating to me that one of Eve's most famous players (Chribba) is famous pretty much just for not being a douche. What other MMO that you can name would someone be so famous simply for not exploiting in game mechanics to be 'bad'?)
I know where your questioning goes by the way - if Eve doesn't stamp on the 'bad', there new players will dry up and there will be no Eve in the years to come. The subscription stats suggest otherwise but even if that were the case, I personally would rather Eve remained as a true virtual sandbox with CCP as janitors rather than try to police a game which is subverted from being 'Eve'.
Thanks for the question anyway Ripard o7 www.crossingzebras.com |
Cavalira
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2014.03.14 12:30:00 -
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What do you think about projected effects get on killmails? Ship A kills Ship B. Ship C is remote repairing/projecting links/Rsebo/whatever on Ship A. Should Ship C be displayed on Ship A's killmail? Why / Why not? |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
344
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:31:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:What do you think about projected effects get on killmails? Ship A kills Ship B. Ship C is remote repairing/projecting links/Rsebo/whatever on Ship A. Should Ship C be displayed on Ship A's killmail? Why / Why not?
In theory, yes. I especially think it would be good to have logi on killmails for example as they contribute a huge amount to any battle.
In practise, I suspect it is nearly impossible to do due to so if ship D reps ship C (which is also a logi) then ship C reps ship B which kills ship A, does ship D appear on ship A's killmail? It becomes a convoluted mess and I'd imagine a nightmare from a programming perspective for CCP.
So yes in theory but in practicality, there are higher priorities for dev hours. www.crossingzebras.com |
Knezzy
Sanctuary of Shadows
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:07:00 -
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So I have a fairly simple question: Do you think CCP should focus their efforts on innovating new mechanics and gameplay features or refining existing ones?
There are obviously pro's/con's to both approaches, but I'm curious what your preference would be. |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:16:00 -
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Knezzy wrote:So I have a fairly simple question: Do you think CCP should focus their efforts on innovating new mechanics and gameplay features or refining existing ones?
There are obviously pro's/con's to both approaches, but I'm curious what your preference would be.
Yeah, I don't think this is an either/or one tbh. If you focus purely on new shiny Jesus features, people will complain about the problems the game has had for a long time (look at the moaning from people such as me when Rubicon was announced with no POS changes or sovereignty upgrades in 0.0). If you focus purely on fixing the latent issues within the game, people complain CCP are resting on their laurels and not giving the bittervets new content to take part in.
If you are going to push me, I'd tilt a little more to the side of refining existing mechanics / ships / problems in the game. You only have to see what a great job Rise/Fozzie/Ytterbium have done on the ship rebalancing project to see that with small tweaks to a number of ships, you can make a number of them that were previously redundant seem like brand new exciting ships and that opens up a whole new area of game space.
But yeah, tl;dr - a little of A and a little of B. Or, a lot of A and a lot of B :) www.crossingzebras.com |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.21 16:36:00 -
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The election schedule is now up:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm9-elections-schedule-election-process-and-candidate-applications/
My application as well as my passport photos are now both in. No going back! www.crossingzebras.com |
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:29:00 -
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Did you also send in your up-kilt photos? :P CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:36:00 -
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Two step wrote:Did you also send in your up-kilt photos? :P
Nah, keeping them for an Incarna/T20 style emergency ;)
www.crossingzebras.com |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:33:00 -
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Stop talking and get elected so I can start complaining about you.
Thanks,
malc
1 Kings 12:11
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Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.21 22:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Stop talking and get elected so I can start complaining about you.
Thanks,
malc
FFS, I'M TRYING MALC. www.crossingzebras.com |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 22:57:00 -
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Please check all that apply:
[ ] Dirty sellout nullsec RMT bloc ***** [ ] Worthless carebear who will destroy small gang PvP given the chance [ ] Sociopathic griefing ganker who literally eats live puppies [ ] Friendless virgin who lives with his mum and can devote 22 hours a day to being better at PvP than me [ ] Monotonous crybaby who is unable to accept that someone can legitimately kill his ship in a PvP spaceships game [ ] Both likes and admits to other people that he likes haggis even though it's essentially dogfood [ ] Ill-kempt homeless tramp who has strong opinions on the best lighter fluid and also ship rebalancing [ ] Other (please specify) [ ] All of the above [ ] Too busy injecting vodka directly into a vein to reply properly
1 Kings 12:11
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Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Please check all that apply:
[X] Dirty sellout nullsec RMT bloc ***** [X] Worthless carebear who will destroy small gang PvP given the chance [X] Sociopathic griefing ganker who literally eats live puppies [X] Friendless virgin who lives with his mum and can devote 22 hours a day to being better at PvP than me [X] Monotonous crybaby who is unable to accept that someone can legitimately kill his ship in a PvP spaceships game [X] Both likes and admits to other people that he likes haggis even though it's essentially dogfood [X] Ill-kempt homeless tramp who has strong opinions on the best lighter fluid and also ship rebalancing [X] Other (please specify) - DESPISE EVE BECAUSE IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY A TERRIBLE GAME FILLED WITH TERRIBLE PEOPLE [X] All of the above [ ] Too busy injecting vodka directly into a vein to reply properly
I'm like 10 minutes away from being able to cross off that last one.
www.crossingzebras.com |
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society Affirmative.
301
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:15:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Thanks,
malc Is Mike rubbing of on you...?
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Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:21:00 -
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Sephira Galamore wrote:Malcanis wrote:Thanks,
malc Is Mike rubbing of on you...?
Any day Mike is rubbing off on me is a good day. www.crossingzebras.com |
Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 03:37:00 -
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Ladies and gentlemen. Most of you, hell, none of you know me. And that's cool. Bu I am here to tell you something.
My name is Harrigan. Those who know me call me Harri (Harry) I'm a regular on Podside podcast. I sometimes write a blog. I won't link that stuff. If you're here you are most likely a meta-gamer of some sort and can find the info. yourself.
I'm here to shout down Xander. The man who stood up for a cheating RMT scumbag outfit in SOMER Blink
I love Xander. Xander of a year ago, that is. The man who was humble and full of gratefulness for those who were supporting him and Jeg in their quest of making Eve a better, more informed place.
Now we are greeted with the arrogance of what is typical of nerds. You ******* nerds who have no social life or outreach of any kind finally, FINALLY grow up a little and start to branch out of your little cheese stained Cheetos finger basement life and begin to experience some recognition. This is where you go wrong. This is where you become the Xander of what was yesterday and are now the unknown Xander of today.
Today, this Xander is not the same Xander that he was a year ago. Just try interacting on Twitter sometime. If you aren't sucking the kool-aid you get ignored. What used to be a dude who was interactive is now a dude who is selectively interactive with only those who serve to better bolster his political ambitions. Once again providing nothing more than a piece of crap politician type person gone from good dude to piece of crap political interface.
Vote wise my friends |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
352
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:16:00 -
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Harrigan VonStudly wrote:The man who stood up for a cheating RMT scumbag outfit in SOMER Blink
As one of the most vociferous opponents to everything SomerGate at the time including calling out everyone from CCP to members of CSM8, I really don't know what to say to this. www.crossingzebras.com |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2968
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:42:00 -
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Xander Phoena wrote:Harrigan VonStudly wrote:The man who stood up for a cheating RMT scumbag outfit in SOMER Blink As one of the most vociferous opponents to everything SomerGate at the time including calling out everyone from CCP to members of CSM8, I really don't know what to say to this. What to say? [citation needed] sounds about right. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
53
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:56:00 -
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Xander Phoena wrote:Harrigan VonStudly wrote:The man who stood up for a cheating RMT scumbag outfit in SOMER Blink As one of the most vociferous opponents to everything SomerGate at the time including calling out everyone from CCP to members of CSM8, I really don't know what to say to this.
I do. I think Harri has fallen of his meds again. (edit) Or is joking. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14552
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:38:00 -
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Xander Phoena wrote:Harrigan VonStudly wrote:The man who stood up for a cheating RMT scumbag outfit in SOMER Blink As one of the most vociferous opponents to everything SomerGate at the time including calling out everyone from CCP to members of CSM8, I really don't know what to say to this.
Some form of thanks would be appropriate.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14552
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:40:00 -
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I mean to say, I'm grateful to him. Thanks to him you've had a bona fide taste of the kind of gratitude you can expect for adhering to your stated principles.
1 Kings 12:11
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
103
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:32:00 -
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Although I'll be officially standing by, and voting for, the candidates from the Brave Collective, I'm very happy to see such a wonderful and active member of the EVE Community as Xander running.
When he wins a seat, we all will win.
And there will be much rejoicing.
with vodka.
and upkilt pictures.
aaand I'm going to bed finally (sorry so late on the endorsement, but I finally remembered!) thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks | thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
Varg Altol
Kill-Switch Engage
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:43:00 -
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Hes chubby, grumpy, arrogant, egotistical and barely logs into the game. He is then without a doubt one of the best examples of an eve player running for csm and i have no doubt he will make good use of his time as csm to extend his e-peen and ego in equal measure. If i was voting i would probably vote for him. |
progodlegend
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
158
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:53:00 -
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Oh calm down Varg. Xander will be a great CSM member as he's been a big part of the community for the past few years. There are so many various aspects to EVE and Xander probably has as broad an understanding as anyone thanks to all the work he does with his website and the crossing zebra podcast. The best CSM members have a general understanding of all EVE mechanics, with a long list of very skilled friends that they can reach out to for more information on any one topic. Xander will fit that mold perfectly, he'll be fine.
He has a spot on the N3 ballot that's for sure. |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
353
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:04:00 -
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Varg Altol wrote:Hes chubby
I certainly was a year ago. Lost 45 pounds since then and run 10kms and half marathons for fun now. What a difference 12 months makes huh? www.crossingzebras.com |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
190
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:23:00 -
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Xander,
What is your position on CCP taking in-game disciplinary action against players for things they do outside of the game on privately-owned blogs, message boards, and Teamspeak servers?
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Varg Altol
Kill-Switch Engage
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:58:00 -
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Xander Phoena wrote:Varg Altol wrote:Hes chubby I certainly was a year ago. Lost 45 pounds since then and run 10kms and half marathons for fun now. What a difference 12 months makes huh?
Congrats, thats pretty awesome work. |
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