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Whatayoke
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:28:00 -
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So Im flying a faction fitted maelstrom, doing some L4s.
A frigate comes by, starts stealing loot and salvaging my stuff. At first I just ignore him, when he touched several BS loots I started shooting him, since he was a pirate for me, tagged as an outlaw.
30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.
how in the hell he is allowed to shoot me?
Imagine you interrupt a bankrobbery by knocking out the criminal, suddenly you become a criminal too by doing the right thing.
those game mechanics ruin the game.
im uninstalling right now.
good bye eve. |
Dave Kaplinski
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:30:00 -
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before you do....
i can haz ur stuffz? |
Inzax
In ZAX New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:30:00 -
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Working as intended...cya. |
Hershman
G-Weezy
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:30:00 -
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Can eye haz eur stoof??? |
Maedeline Thiesant
Krypteia Spectres Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:30:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Can_flipping
Essentially this. No, it really doesn't make much sense to me either. |
Whatayoke
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:31:00 -
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Inzax wrote:Working as intended...cya.
so explain my the intention. by what means this is any logic? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3151
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:33:00 -
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Whatayoke wrote:So Im flying a faction fitted maelstrom, doing some L4s.
A frigate comes by, starts stealing loot and salvaging my stuff. At first I just ignore him, when he touched several BS loots I started shooting him, since he was a pirate for me, tagged as an outlaw.
30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.
how in the hell he is allowed to shoot me?
Imagine you interrupt a bankrobbery by knocking out the criminal, suddenly you become a criminal too by doing the right thing.
those game mechanics ruin the game.
im uninstalling right now.
good bye eve. So long and thanks for the story on the way. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:34:00 -
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he stole from you.
you shot him.
by shooting him you give him the opportunity to defend himself.
he killed you good.
Working at intended. Remember if you shoot someone, you give them the right to shoot you back. |
rodyas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:36:00 -
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You aggressed the character not the ship when you shot at him. You can shoot the robbers during a bank robbery but they can also shoot you back there or a another bystander. Why the cops dont like local heros sometimes. Can get themselves shot or another person hurt. |
Whatayoke
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:36:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:he stole from you.
me vs thief 0:1
Obsidian Hawk wrote: you shot him.
me vs thief 1:1
Obsidian Hawk wrote: by shooting him you give him the opportunity to defend himself.
he killed you good.
me vs thief 1:2
see what I mean?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:37:00 -
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Whatayoke wrote: 30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.
BS all right.
Although I'd like to have one. Strategic battleship. *sigh*
Mr Epeen
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
bornaa
GRiD.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:38:00 -
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Whatayoke wrote:Inzax wrote:Working as intended...cya. so explain my the intention. by what means this is any logic?
Logic of EVE is that everybody have right to defend themselfs when attacked. You have right to protect your stuff (thats why you could shoot him without concord intervention) but when you shoot somebody, who ever it was, he can defend itself (attack you back for 15mins) |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:38:00 -
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well next time dont shoot the thief. everything goes both ways in eve. if someone is stealing from you go back and get a bigger ship or a better pvp ship. |
Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:38:00 -
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Also, shooting someone is not typically an appropriate response to petty theft. |
Killer Gandry
Shadow of the Pain
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:39:00 -
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I am more wondering about this:
To benefit the EVE community at large, a small change has been made to game mechanics in regarding criminal flags and how they are inherited in high security space. If a pilot is remote repairing, or otherwise assisting, another pilot who commits a criminal act then the repair module will now disengage. In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.
Since a war isn't a criminal act but a Concord sanctioned action between 2 entities in EVE the remote repping with an alt in that case is handled how? Also if it does flag them now, does that mean they also get an agression timer? If not then no use really because you can remote rep and dock up right away as it was already.
A tad more explenation about the new mechanics would be handy. I am sure I can find a way then to avoid certain concequences.
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Inzax
In ZAX New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:41:00 -
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Whatayoke wrote:Inzax wrote:Working as intended...cya. so explain my the intention. by what means this is any logic?
Explained by others so no need to repeat. I do have a suggestion. Stay. Nobody cares what you do. I would suggest learning from the experience, seak vengence, set a trap, move on, whatever.... Just enjoy the game. Hell, utilize the tactic yourself and ruin somebody elses day.
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K Suri
Red Gooey Bananas
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:44:00 -
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Whatayoke wrote:So Im flying a faction fitted maelstrom, doing some L4s.
A frigate comes by, starts stealing loot and salvaging my stuff. At first I just ignore him, when he touched several BS loots I started shooting him, since he was a pirate for me, tagged as an outlaw.
30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.
how in the hell he is allowed to shoot me?
Imagine you interrupt a bankrobbery by knocking out the criminal, suddenly you become a criminal too by doing the right thing.
those game mechanics ruin the game.
im uninstalling right now.
good bye eve. You fly faction fit (suggesting a reasonable time in Eve) and you lose because you agress a flipper?
People like you give even carebears a bad name. In fact you make Goons look smart in comparison.
**** me. |
Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:45:00 -
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I tried finding the lossmail on the killboards but OP is not posting with that character :( |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:46:00 -
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shoot the wrecks next time
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:47:00 -
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Posting in beach thread. |
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Famble
Three's a Crowd
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:52:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:shoot the wrecks next time
Or just walk away. I can only think of one L4 that can potentially spawn a BS that when wrecked would be worth fighting over.
Anyway, live and learn. I got flipped within my first month of Eve way, way back when. Luckily for me I was only in a cruiser (I think) but it still stung, I still whined but at the end of the day I accepted, sucked it up and learned.
Good luck! |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 22:56:00 -
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You don't FART in EVE without knowing the mechanics of FARTING inside and out.
So it seems fitting that you should never ENGAGE someone unless you know all about the mechanics of PVP. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:00:00 -
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Whatayoke wrote:I started shooting him
there u go
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:01:00 -
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Never been flipped in eve but I have seen it done to others.
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Gealla
Capital Storm. Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:09:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Whatayoke wrote:I started shooting him there u go
This ^^
All he did was try to steal some crap you left laying around in space You started trying to kill him for it.....
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ACE McFACE
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:11:00 -
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0/10 so obvious
Someone in a 'faction fitted Mael' would know about these things ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig) |
K Suri
Red Gooey Bananas
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:15:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:0/10 so obvious
Someone in a 'faction fitted Mael' SHould know about these things Fixed. |
okst666
Not Solitude Again Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:38:00 -
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if this happens, I mark my wrecks as blue and let them have it and enjoy the agents reward. let him loot..that stuff is almost worthless. jump to another system and farm your l4s there... sometime you win, somtimes someone else..
I have 1 rule.. Never pvp in eve if you do not have to. You will lose a ship!
[X] < Nail here for new monitor |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:43:00 -
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okst666 wrote:if this happens, I mark my wrecks as blue and let them have it and enjoy the agents reward. let him loot..that stuff is almost worthless. jump to another system and farm your l4s there... sometime you win, somtimes someone else..
I have 1 rule.. Never pvp in eve if you do not have to. You will lose a ship!
+1 for your sig.
Not a bad rule to have if you only choose one I suppose too. |
T' Elk
Happy Little Spaceships
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:56:00 -
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Your stupidity, not the game mechanics, is ruining the game. L8r nub. God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |
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