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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.04.13 08:57:00 -
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Ghosts of Retribution are pulling out of Cache for several political and Military issues we have been facing while dealing with RA and the mission to help defend Cache.
Standings have been reset to RA's current enemies and we are pulling back to empire to re-evaluate the situation. Parties involved in the conflict are aware and have been informed prior to this post of the reasons.
Ghost pilots are forbidden to post opinions and personal reasons for these decisions on the forum. Our withdrawl is a political one that is focused to safe guard the alliance's communal unity and to plan our nexxt step; nothing more.
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Lord Wibblywobbly
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:04:00 -
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so just to make sure that no-one gets the wrong idea, this is not because we got our asses handed to us on a daily basis, its purely a tactical withdrawl.
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Hugo Kaviene
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:41:00 -
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Red Alliance wishes Ghosts of Retribution best of luck.
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I'm Deng Xiaoping for your Mao Zedong |
nkldklnkv
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Posted - 2006.04.13 10:16:00 -
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I guess being burn eden lite wasnt working for ya.
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Karina Harington
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Posted - 2006.04.13 13:55:00 -
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Blimey, alt trolling seems to have really taken off lately
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:17:00 -
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Good luck Ghost, I am sure you will appear from the shadows somewhere else at a time befitting your alliance. _________________________
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Cpt Freejack
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:00:00 -
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Thanks RA for the Time in Cache. Good luck for the future. Thanks to LV, V, Chimp... for the nice fights.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:01:00 -
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Gl Ghosts, was good fighting you guys.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:43:00 -
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GL in your future Ghost¦s...
best wishes.
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
/LD: "hey you deleted my Sig" /GM: "this Sig is to big" /LD: "what...iam to big..?" /GM: "no...your Sig..." /LD: "grml %$º/="
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Touk
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Posted - 2006.04.14 02:46:00 -
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gl guys....was good to see some new faces in the south to shoot and maybe kil if im lucky.
Just out of intreast can we get an offical statment on how long the alliegence with RA lasted?
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:33:00 -
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I blinked and missed it,
Seriously though, best of luck in the future Ghosts. I think it is clear for all to see that you were mis-sold and mis-represented the true situation in the South-East. I hope you didn't lose too much in this venture, and that you can bounce back from this.
Rovers Chronicles
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lansha
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:56:00 -
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all the best ghosts was fun while it lasted an enemy of an enemy is a friend |
Karl Shade
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Posted - 2006.04.14 12:58:00 -
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Good luck Ghosts.
Had a fun couple of days fighting you guys up in cache. Lets do it again sometime. -
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.04.14 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 14/04/2006 14:13:25
Originally by: lansha and enemy of an enemy is a friend
I request a clarification of this statement.
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Sales alt
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Posted - 2006.04.14 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sales alt on 14/04/2006 14:16:05
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 14/04/2006 14:13:25
Originally by: lansha and enemy of an enemy is a friend
I request a clarification of this statement.
It's in his sig :P
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MACTEP
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:24:00 -
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Ghost you going to attack RA soon as this easier than to fight against coalition?
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Draconian
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Posted - 2006.04.14 16:24:00 -
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lord wimp get back inm 0.0 so i can pop ur ass again
fyi lord its hard to blob when u r smaller u nd to take some classes on tactic other than the blob r us defense
but ur only good at that so sad
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.04.14 17:26:00 -
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Actually a pity. Good Luck with what you pick to do next.
And @ mactep; I personally hope that does not happen.
[Art of War][- V -] |
Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.04.15 12:32:00 -
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At this point MAC, RA is trying EVERYTHING it can to get Ghost to shoot at RA pilots. We haven't. We withdrew for 'reasons' which was fully clear and documented to RA.
In return we get locked out of stations, fired upon and constantly insulted. Yet we continue to try to resolve the issue without coming to hostility.
We was put to neutral and a because of such several of our pilots have been attacked with no reason, A lot of our gear is still locked up in the stations we was helping to defend as well.
So Mac dude if you can get into the embassy you will see the full evidence of what is going on and the neglect RA leadership has put us through. We had enough and withdrew. And we get treated in the above noted manner.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.15 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Draconian lord wimp get back inm 0.0 so i can pop ur ass again
fyi lord its hard to blob when u r smaller u nd to take some classes on tactic other than the blob r us defense
but ur only good at that so sad
/emote waves to draccy whaccy --------------------------------
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Lord Wibblywobbly
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Posted - 2006.04.15 15:33:00 -
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I'm sure that the current hostilities that GHOST might be facing have nothing to do with the NAP's that GHOST now have with their former enemies.
GHOST mining fleet FTW
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Draconian
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Posted - 2006.04.15 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Draconian lord wimp get back inm 0.0 so i can pop ur ass again
fyi lord its hard to blob when u r smaller u nd to take some classes on tactic other than the blob r us defense
but ur only good at that so sad
/emote waves to draccy whaccy
i am going to pod u drac + y = death cept for 1 person well maybe 2
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.15 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Draconian
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Draconian lord wimp get back inm 0.0 so i can pop ur ass again
fyi lord its hard to blob when u r smaller u nd to take some classes on tactic other than the blob r us defense
but ur only good at that so sad
/emote waves to draccy whaccy
i am going to pod u drac + y = death cept for 1 person well maybe 2
you meany weeny --------------------------------
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.04.17 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Wibblywobbly I'm sure that the current hostilities that GHOST might be facing have nothing to do with the NAP's that GHOST now have with their former enemies.
GHOST mining fleet FTW
To the ignorant. = which means to those unknowledgeable or having a decent lack of schooling.
Non-aggression pact = two organizations agree not to fire upon each other or take any actions of hostile transgression against each other in a effort to progress upon war..
It does NOT mean these two organizations are allied in any way nor does it imply a coalition in respect to cause harm in force of arms to a third party. I.E. becoming neutral or being non-hostile.
Allied = military and political cooperation across the diplomatic board to use in conjunction to preserver or protect one another's organization against outside physical or political threats.
The continued shortsightedness and comprehension of these meanings and what they truly imply is causing a lot of undo grief, action and political dissent by those ignorant of these implications.
Go back to school if you haven't realized the simple meanings of how different a NAP is to being Allied AND hold a little bit of honor and present yourself as a man in not as alt that only shows the large amount of cowardice you obviously must have.
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MACTEP
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Posted - 2006.04.18 20:12:00 -
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Ghosts did as I said..... do you want to get a cache for free? because this easier? you were fighting about 3 days in a cache and singe by a spirit....tiredness....broke while RA fighting vs 4 alliances for more than 3 mounth
betrayers.... you ll get no respects from anybody and you will so be ghosts without a house and allies.....did the sweet promises of Chowdown is so pretty ? we were not enemies but if you want so.......ok 100 enemies more , 100 less for RA already there is no difference.......
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: MACTEP Ghosts did as I said..... do you want to get a cache for free? because this easier? you were fighting about 3 days in a cache and singe by a spirit....tiredness....broke while RA fighting vs 4 alliances for more than 3 mounth
betrayers.... you ll get no respects from anybody and you will so be ghosts without a house and allies.....did the sweet promises of Chowdown is so pretty ? we were not enemies but if you want so.......ok 100 enemies more , 100 less for RA already there is no difference.......
Why do you guys keep stepping around in this pile of crap? You are fighting 4 alliances because YOU have chosen that, not us, we tried negotiations that ended because YOU didnt wanna give us one single petty region and now instead you have nothing, what does that say about you? dont blame others for your own mistakes and ignorance matey, I respect you but these are lame excuses and dont hold water. Ghost switched side because your alliance was not there to back them up when they came to help you defend cache, I cant really blame them.
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Exaali Vendraxxil
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Posted - 2006.04.19 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Treebeard dk You are fighting 4 alliances because YOU have chosen that, not us.
The reasons aren't really relevant. The fact is, RA is heavily outnumbered. That fact will color all your victories and losses in this conflict regardless of how you try to spin it otherwise.
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.04.19 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Treebeard dk
Why do you guys keep stepping around in this pile of crap? You are fighting 4 alliances because YOU have chosen that, not us, we tried negotiations that ended because YOU didnt wanna give us one single petty region and now instead you have nothing, what does that say about you? dont blame others for your own mistakes and ignorance matey, I respect you but these are lame excuses and dont hold water. Ghost switched side because your alliance was not there to back them up when they came to help you defend cache, I cant really blame them.
Wow. I had to check and double check that this wasn't me who posted this. I guess if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what we have here is a duck guys.
Rovers Chronicles
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 19/04/2006 20:30:25
Read the topic name. Now re-read what you have all posted here. Question: why is GHOST still in Cache? Read the topic name again. Now answer. Thanks.
P.S. RA setting GHOST to minus != RA declaring war on them. If you say you leave - leave, don't be a political wh*re.
Exaali's question still remains unanswered. Plus I have a question of my own. Ok Treebeard dk, we got you mate - LV DEMANDED under the circumstances of war insmother(where CWRA lived at that moment) - we, as a proud alliance, rejected the "kind offer" - war followed. I see no reason why CHIMP declared a war, I see no reason why -v- declared a war, I see no reason why KOS declared a war... They wanted Insmother too? Heck, don't give me that sh*t, you guys are 1k ppl alliances each, owning 1-2 regions(that's just more than enough to populate all of your members there, you'll even have unpopulated lands left(which you are having atm btw)) and still LV demanded regions from RA... it's just a gang bang - just admit it.
"I guess if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what we have here is a duck guys." /SIGNED
Edit: spelling and stuff
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c0rn1
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Posted - 2006.04.19 23:10:00 -
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So here they stood. -V- fighting RA in GW, LV sitting in the backyard and being mad at RA because of the former treatment, CHIMP as leftover of .5. in Detorid and KOS with 1 station left of their homeland Omist (this was the situation at the beginning of this year). Next to them Red Alliance keeping Detorid, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass, Insmother, Immensea and Cache. None of the 4 entities couldn't remove RA by themselves as all 4 of them were just born and had a member count of around 500. Some more, some less.
Now history shows us that if 1 entity sits in the middle of 4 smaller entities around which behaves (obviously) like a bully and doesn't even show the slightest respect to their neighbours to let them live in peace the even smaller entities will regroup to fight back for being mistreated and missunderstood (and in Eve for the fun as well :p).
Exactly this is what happened. While the war raged every alliance grew up to 1,000+ member each and started to settle down in the won regions. CHIMP in detorid and immensea (even they just wanted Detorid at first, but oh well, "nice region, we take it" :D), same for -V- with Scalding Pass, KOS moved from Omist into Wicked Creek to finally have an own region again and Insmother is running under the protectorate of the 4 alliances for now but will be figured out later.
So the war didn't start outnumbered. It became to it during the war. RA/FFA had around 2000 members as well as the 4 alliances.
And Ghost? well, they got invited by RA to help, moved their stuff to Cache, fought some time alone in Cache (except once) and got abandoned by RA and when they tried to get their stuff back outta it with less losses, RA changed the door lockers to the stations with their stuff in as thank you . What do you expect Ghost will do? Of course try to get their stuff back somehow. RA pushed em into our corner with setting standings to negative and it's their chance to probably get their stuff back in time if they help us. It's easy as that.
regards x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
Life's a waste of time ...
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