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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.20 02:06:00 -
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I worked up the manufacture cost on a procurer and, well, they sell for ~16M and materials for one is over 21M.
Can someone enlighten me on the economics at work here? I really confused. |
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 02:33:00 -
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Old Stock, increases in Price of Minerals because I short term shortages of minerals due to but fleet fights and lost Caps/SuperCaps |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:21:00 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:Old Stock, increases in Price of Minerals because I short term shortages of minerals due to but fleet fights and lost Caps/SuperCaps
A 5% increase in mineral prices doesn't account for a 32% price difference.
Also the price and manufacture cost was about the same a month ago when I first checked on costs. I just looked at it again today out of curiosity.
I think the real answer is rampant stupidity. |
Xurr
Angelic Insurrection Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:47:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote: I think the real answer is rampant stupidity.
Yep, it is almost like some people after being told still can't learn.
Like Caldari 5 said it is old stock. See all those materials listed as 'extra'? those weren't there when all those procs were made. |
Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:13:00 -
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They used to be supercheap to make, so many people made thousands of them. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:41:00 -
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That was back in summer 2012, before barge rebalancing. Since not that many Procurers die, expect this to last for some time (years). Remove insurance. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2014.02.20 06:01:00 -
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Back before Inferno 1.2, Procurers (and other barges) cost significantly less to build. People built thousands expecting a large payout once prices increased. For the other two barges, price did increase. For the Procurer not so much because of lower demand.
Same thing with a couple of the battlecruisers, same reason. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.02.20 09:02:00 -
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A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.20 10:52:00 -
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The procurer /used/ to cost 2 million to make. (Pre, uh, Retribution, iirc)
It now has a build cost of 21 million.
So, someone selling at 16 million is making a 700% profit. Not as nice as a three order of magnitude profit, but it's enough for people to want to cash out. Eventually it'll fill out. Not any time soon. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:03:00 -
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Everyone gave all the reasons above for what you see. I personally bought about 20 before the patch and sold them after for less than post patch cost but still made a decent profit.
If you want to make isk on them, buy them all up under cost and relist them. I have a feeling though supply will outstrip demand and you will want to move them for a loss than have all that capital tied up in your hanger. All depends on your business model. Long term it might work. GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:24:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:That was back in summer 2012, before barge rebalancing. Since not that many Procurers die, expect this to last for some time (years).
Yea, that was a while back, but would be the most logical answer I think?
Along with all the other comments that is. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:50:00 -
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One time bump to fix forum. |
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:14:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. If you're serious, and your friend is still selling, could you send me the name?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:09:00 -
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Traedar wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. If you're serious, and your friend is still selling, could you send me the name? I'll direct him to your post, and let him decide to contact you. |
MicDeath Titan
Titans Guild Solitude Coalition
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:01:00 -
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I would also like to purchase some as well :D |
Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.22 10:29:00 -
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Gonna say i dont even mine but being able to pick up 10-20 would be nice @ 8m a pop.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 04:42:00 -
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I acquired thousands of these last year. I forget where I put them, but thanks for the reminder. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Gray Spike
Titans Guild Solitude Coalition
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Posted - 2014.02.27 06:45:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I acquired thousands of these last year. I forget where I put them, but thanks for the reminder. "acquired"
Poor fella went to bonus round did he? |
Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity Toxic Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:35:00 -
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I'd also like to buy them buy the dozen. |
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:09:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Traedar wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. If you're serious, and your friend is still selling, could you send me the name? I'll direct him to your post, and let him decide to contact you.
Thanks. I am looking to buy in bulk (1000s of them).
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Marsan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2014.03.03 23:46:00 -
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That reminds me I need to park some isk in Procurers along with my Phoenixes as part of my inflation hedge... Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a hopeful small portion of the community. |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.04 03:32:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:That was back in summer 2012, before barge rebalancing. Since not that many Procurers die, expect this to last for some time (years).
Or one could say that since barges are overtanked in general, that stockpiles are sufficient to outlast the RL lifetimes of some players... Derp.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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