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Sastiquanto
SastiCon Holding
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:04:00 -
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After being away for a good amount of time, i come back and find an added section to my BP-¦s
EXTRA material ?
As i read it, ill have to add those extra materials into the equation when building, after wich i get set back to be completely and utterly useless at building anything.
Someone, clarify this to me in plain wording.
Listing example: Brutix BPC: Material Level: 50 Wastage Factor 0.2% Productivity level: 25
Megacite: 859 + extra 443 Mexallon: 151819 + extra 68478 etc etc etc .... That equates to a MASSIVE difference...
Before, id be able to produce this thing, at, or a tad lower than jita median sell orders.. Before: 32.084.412,- production cost Now: : 45.830.619,- production cost
To get one in Jita: 44.999.994.99
In essense: Before, i could break even, og have a smaller profit on producing stuff. Now, i just have a pile of worthless BP-¦s ...
Skills: Industry 5 Mass prod.: 5 ME 5 ... |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:16:00 -
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The change was made not for industry reasons but for economic ones. The materials to build we're changed in a previous patch and to prevent people from building a bunch pre-patch then refining them to get free minerals, they added the mineral requirements as 'extra', which are unaffected by refining.
The prices you see are likely due to over supply of a non-popular ship, where stock still exists at a lower production cost that still results in a profit for the seller but not to you building now post patch.
See the thread here on procurers. Same issue. GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
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Sastiquanto
SastiCon Holding
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:23:00 -
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... CCP should keep the record of wich was build on what BP, and recycle stuff back to originals, instead of new types.... like if a BP would "brand" a created ship with a number... oh well, guess im out of that game now anyway.... *sighs*
going to look at suggested thread. thanks |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:49:00 -
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Why? That would take a ******** amount of work and rebuilding the refining system. Everyone has the same construction on extra materials and research is still valuable for normal materials. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:52:00 -
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There's a handful of items which are not profitable to make as a result of the addition of extra materials. It's not a majority of items or even a significant amount. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:49:00 -
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One time bump to fix forum. |
SJ Astralana
Syncore
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:22:00 -
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Sastiquanto wrote:
Before, id be able to produce this thing, at, or a tad lower than jita median sell orders.. Before: 32.084.412,- production cost Now: : 45.830.619,- production cost
To get one in Jita: 44.999.994.99
In essense: Before, i could break even, og have a smaller profit on producing stuff. Now, i just have a pile of worthless BP-¦s ... .
2 free pro tips: Jita is a few jumps from a few regions. And I know of a high volume hub where they sell at 47 and the cost is 44.1
SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
1268
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:53:00 -
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SJ Astralana wrote:Sastiquanto wrote:
Before, id be able to produce this thing, at, or a tad lower than jita median sell orders.. Before: 32.084.412,- production cost Now: : 45.830.619,- production cost
To get one in Jita: 44.999.994.99
In essense: Before, i could break even, og have a smaller profit on producing stuff. Now, i just have a pile of worthless BP-¦s ... .
2 free pro tips: Jita is a few jumps from a few regions. And I know of a high volume hub where they sell at 47 and the cost is 44.1
And there's another hub where they sell at 49. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:44:00 -
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Sastiquanto wrote:After being away for a good amount of time, i come back and find an added section to my BP-¦s
EXTRA material ?
As i read it, ill have to add those extra materials into the equation when building, after wich i get set back to be completely and utterly useless at building anything.
Its not like you're the only one who has to use those extra materials. It affects everyone. Of course you'll be able to make a huge profit if you can build the same product with a fraction of the materials. So what are you complaining about? "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Dasmallredboat
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:58:00 -
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there is still a ton of profit in T1 manufacturing. it is really easy to find stuff that makes 500k ISK/hr and more (even with cheap BPOs, bad research and a small investment). some ships have those extra material that simply kill the margin, but its only a few and time will fix it.
dominixes are already profitable to build, armageddons are not. once someone starts loosing armageddons en masse, they will quickly become profitable again.
tl;dr: don't build ships for the jita market. |
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Trunhe
Imperium Libertas space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:00:00 -
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Dasmallredboat wrote:
tl;dr: don't build ships for the jita market.
^ Pro Tip!
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