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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:29:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Eternum Praetorian/Mandarine wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a Sadist playing EVE? Then we're back to meaninglessly broad categorisations. No we are not, it is a simple question. Do you feel that a sadist playing eve would be drawn to certain types of activities in EVE over others? Or do you feel that their tenancies/desires/whatever would not compel them in this digital environment? You asking someone to make an unsubstantiated speculation about what a sadist who played Eve would do with their time? Some of us don't fill threads with unsubstantiated speculation.
Potential Tippa alt #1, i am asking someone who has a long history of having an opinion on everything under the sun what their opinion is regarding this question. I have one and Tippa has one. I am asking him for his opinion.
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1613
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:31:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Eternum Praetorian/Mandarine wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a Sadist playing EVE? Then we're back to meaninglessly broad categorisations. No we are not, it is a simple question. Do you feel that a sadist playing eve would be drawn to certain types of activities in EVE over others? Or do you feel that their tenancies/desires/whatever would not compel them in this digital environment? You asking someone to make an unsubstantiated speculation about what a sadist who played Eve would do with their time? Some of us don't fill threads with unsubstantiated speculation. Potential Tippa alt #1, i am asking someone who has a long history of having an opinion on everything under the sun what their opinion is regarding this question. I have one and Tippa has one. I am asking him for his opinion.
If you want to have a conversation with Tippia take it to EveMail. If you post your inane crap in a public forum you should expect others to respond.
Or, as a result of your entitled lifestyle, are you insistent that we all play "Forums" your way? "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote: I feel that if their desires and compulsions were strong enough to make a significant impact, they'd go for something more concrete than an MMO. But really, you'd have to find a bunch and ask them.
So allow me to paraphrase your skillful dodging of the question. You seem to hold the opinion that if a sadist had a strong enough of a compulsion defining them as a sadist they would forgo eve all together. Thus they will have little to no interest in EVE?
Thus we should not expect to see them in game?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19710
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:39:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:So allow me to paraphrase your skillful dodging of the question. You seem to hold the opinion that if a sadist had a strong enough of a compulsion defining them as a sadist they would forgo eve all together. Thus they will have little to no interest in EVE?
Thus we should not expect to see them in game? Not to any degree where they'd be noticeable, no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1613
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:40:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote: I feel that if their desires and compulsions were strong enough to make a significant impact, they'd go for something more concrete than an MMO. But really, you'd have to find a bunch and ask them.
So allow me to paraphrase your skillful dodging of the question. You seem to hold the opinion that if a sadist had a strong enough of a compulsion defining them as a sadist they would forgo eve all together. Thus they will have little to no interest in EVE? Thus we should not expect to see them in game?
More speculation!
You might check with CCP if they have login stats for all the diagnosed sadists. They have lots of info like this though I don't know seriously if it gets that specific.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:So allow me to paraphrase your skillful dodging of the question. You seem to hold the opinion that if a sadist had a strong enough of a compulsion defining them as a sadist they would forgo eve all together. Thus they will have little to no interest in EVE?
Thus we should not expect to see them in game? Not to any degree where they'd be noticeable, no.
What about "part-time" sadists? People that have a lesser compulsion or inability to enact their desires in their real life? Is it possible they might play eve? In your opinion that is.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19710
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:46:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:What about "part-time" sadists? Do they even exist? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:46:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I mean, especially with my "lifestyle" and not really shocked and offended by anything Why then did you report it, if it did not shock or offend you? |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:46:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:What about "part-time" sadists? People that have a lesser compulsion or inability to enact their desires in their real life? Is it possible they might play eve? In your opinion that is. What about part time cross-dressers? There are probably men who play Eve whilst dressed as women based upon my observance of their extremely slutty looking female avatars and some of the remarks they make on comms. Not sure it draws them to any particular gamestyle though, they seem to be everywhere. You're just as likely to find a sadist 1isking their orders in Jita thousands of times a day or mining as anywhere else. Maybe they mine those roids sadistically. - |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1613
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:47:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:So allow me to paraphrase your skillful dodging of the question. You seem to hold the opinion that if a sadist had a strong enough of a compulsion defining them as a sadist they would forgo eve all together. Thus they will have little to no interest in EVE?
Thus we should not expect to see them in game? Not to any degree where they'd be noticeable, no. What about "part-time" sadists? People that have a lesser compulsion or inability to enact their desires in their real life? Is it possible they might play eve? In your opinion that is.
What a great concept for a University study. Rather than speculate we can ask a bunch of "part time" sadists if they might play Eve.
Why has this not been done before? "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:What about "part-time" sadists? Do they even exist?
Do you think that they do not?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19711
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:50:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you think that they do not? I'm asking you: do they? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1613
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you think that they do not? I'm asking you: do they?
Nope.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:55:00 -
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I was asking you for your opinion, but here is one example that suggests that they do: Link
Quote:Most of the time, we try to avoid inflicting pain on others GÇö when we do hurt someone, we typically experience guilt, remorse, or other feelings of distress. But for some, cruelty can be pleasurable, even exciting. New research suggests that this kind of everyday sadism is real and more common than we might think
Quote:GÇ£Some find it hard to reconcile sadism with the concept of GÇÿnormalGÇÖ psychological functioning, but our findings show that sadistic tendencies among otherwise well-adjusted people must be acknowledged,GÇ¥ says psychological scientist Erin Buckels of the University of British Columbia.
Quote:The researchers hope that these new findings will help to broaden peopleGÇÖs view of sadism as an aspect of personality that manifests in everyday life, helping to dispel the notion that sadism is limited to sexual deviants and criminals.
And a little too Ironically....
Quote:Buckels and colleagues are continuing to investigate everyday sadism, including its role in online trolling behavior.
GÇ£Trolling culture is unique in that it explicitly celebrates sadistic pleasure, or GÇÿlulz,GÇÖGÇ¥ says Buckels. GÇ£It is, perhaps, not surprising then that sadists gravitate toward those activities.GÇ¥
And theyGÇÖre also exploring vicarious forms of sadism, such as enjoying cruelty in movies, video games, and sports.
So yea... I think they do. Now do you?
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1082
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:56:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you think that they do not? I'm asking you: do they? Nope.
I guess your google skills cannot compare to actual reading and educating yourself on something, hmm? Oh well, there is always next time.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19712
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:58:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I was asking you for your opinion, but here is one example that suggests that they do: That suggests that there is no part-time about it, and what they do online has already been covered.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:59:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you think that they do not? Yes. I think you annoy me enough, and I find your existence offensive enough, that I might enjoy tormenting you sadistically, in part-time.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1083
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:I was asking you for your opinion, but here is one example that suggests that they do: That suggests that there is no part-time about it, and what they do online has already been covered.
How does an article suggesting that sadism is far more commonplace than most people think, evidence against the idea of "part-time sadists". A phrase I used to describe sadists with less powerful drives?
You told me that you felt that sadists with strong drives would forgo eve all together. You did not speak to the potential online habits of people who have lesser sadist-type drives. Or whether or not such tenancies might, in your opinion, play a role in their career paths in EVE Online.
You only asked me if I thought that they existed or not, in a rather transparent attempt to deflect my question.
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1615
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:08:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:You did not speak to the potential online habits of people who have lesser sadist-type drives. Or whether or not such tenancies might, in your opinion, play a role in their career paths in EVE Online.
You only asked me if I thought that they existed or not, in a rather transparent attempt to deflect my question.
The question is speculative. If you want to know what a sadist does with their free time, ask a sadist.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19712
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:09:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:How does an article suggesting that sadism is far more commonplace than most people think, evidence against the idea of "part-time sadists". By suggesting that there's nothing part-time about it: no lesser compulsion and no inability. In fact, they point to them finding plenty of outlets in their regular life.
Quote:You only asked me if I thought that they existed or not No, I asked you if they did exist since the premise of your question was itself highly questionable. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1083
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:How does an article suggesting that sadism is far more commonplace than most people think, evidence against the idea of "part-time sadists". By suggesting that there's nothing part-time about it: no lesser compulsion and not inability. Quote:You only asked me if I thought that they existed or not No, I asked you if they did exist since the premise of your question was itself highly questionable.
Fine. Regardless, might we expect to see them in game and on the forums? Or do you feel that something is precluding such people from being here in EVE among us?
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1615
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:11:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you think that they do not? I'm asking you: do they? Nope. I guess your google skills cannot compare to actual reading and educating yourself on something, hmm? Oh well, there is always next time.
Says a person trying to get other people to speculate on the activities of a group of people while trying to make a distinction between sadists and "part time" sadists.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19712
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:13:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Fine. Regardless, might we expect to see them in game and on the forums? Or do you feel that something is precluding such people from being here in EVE among us? Repeating the question will not alter the answer. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1083
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Fine. Regardless, might we expect to see them in game and on the forums? Or do you feel that something is precluding such people from being here in EVE among us? Repeating the question will not alter the answer.
Which was? Did I miss something again in your epic pyramid quoting? By my count you have commented on hardcore sadists, not the type of everyday ones my link is referring to.
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Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
1029
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:18:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I mean, especially with my "lifestyle" and not really shocked and offended by anything Why then did you report it, if it did not shock or offend you?
Just because someone like me (or, from his description, Krixtal) is nearly impossible to shock or offend at this point doesn't mean that we're incapable of judging abusive, EULA-breaking behavior, nor does it mean that we're exempt from the responsibility of reporting it before the person spewing the venom reaches someone who would be shocked or offended.
One of the things you learn very quickly in online games, if you're receptive to learning, is that some of the people who identify as virtual "good guys" are merely insecure and self-righteous, and some of the people who identify as virtual "bad guys" are self-aware enough to acknowledge and embrace their flaws, or who bear a great deal of responsibility in real life and so enjoy a complete freedom from responsibility in game.
Yes, of course there will be sadists and psychopaths mixed in here and there, but they're not common enough to be representative of anything. They won't pay much attention to the game itself anyway, since their focus will always be on other players.
As for me personally, I disdain the whole "good guy"/"bad guy" construction as cartoonish and restrictive, and as a roleplayer I am deeply suspicious of the idea that anyone whose character does something villainous is villainous--at least, beyond the extent that anyone is. M. Scott Peck observed that everyone has a part of them that should be in jail, after all. But that doesn't make everyone a monster. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1083
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:18:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you think that they do not? I'm asking you: do they? Nope. I guess your google skills cannot compare to actual reading and educating yourself on something, hmm? Oh well, there is always next time. Says a person trying to get other people to speculate on the activities of a group of people while trying to make a distinction between sadists and "part time" sadists.
Perhaps if you had read the link that made you look stupid in full, you would better understand the difference.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19712
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:19:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Which was? Did I miss something again in your epic pyramid quoting? No. You missed something in a simple quote, which is pretty spectacular since you made a pyramid out of it when you answered.
Look, just skip your pointless tip-toeing and get to the point. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1083
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Which was? Did I miss something again in your epic pyramid quoting? No. You missed something in a simple quote, which is pretty spectacular since you made a pyramid out of it when you answered.
Refresh me then.
Eternum is in your thread, re-derailing the thread that you were trying to derail.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19712
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:22:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Refresh me then. No. Get to the point. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1616
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:28:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Perhaps if you had read the link that made you look stupid in full, you would better understand the difference.
Wow they must really make them dumb where you come from. Of course, I'm just speculating.
1. The link you supplied was after my Google search for your term "part time" sadists. Further, it is not indicative or relevant to the discussion but just a citation you pulled from the ether to troll Tippia - good luck with that by the way. 2. You should continue to speculate on stuff - that is, after all, a true measure of one's intellect. 3. You should also try to make distinctions in the varying degrees of psychological disorders. Since you've already told us that you're not employed, I feel it safe to speculate that you lack any formal academic credentials to speak intelligently about anything.
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