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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:02:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:What are your thoughts? I dont particularly care about CSM or that whole shabang. its just fluff. Having said that, I have political experience in real life, I myself ran for a nomination to run in provincial parliament, and i can tell you that, if your goal was to smear the guy, its weak stuff. Not particularly attention-grabbing. Not going to sway the election one way or another. Better bet is to simply buy yourself a spot rather then go about it by smearing others obliquely. Organize an event before the vote, dramiels giveaway for example, where you would warp in and jettison dramiels from a hauler every 10 minutes as long as your votes kept going up.... Publicize it with alts on forums, in chat channels, in every empire region and local chat channel, etc.,, and win. I dont even know if youre running tho. In case you want just answer to your question - CSM or not, EULA violations should be investigated.
Nah I don't think I would ever run but Kinis brings up some good points. There has been a history of this and player exposure and open discussion, I believe is a good way to solve some of these issues. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
641
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:32:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:What are your thoughts? After reading the whole thread up to here?
Internet spaceships ara serious business. Still, this is nothing more than a game. Or should be. Maybe you're taking this just a little too serious? But maybe that's just me.
I personally would wait for the GM's response, before taking any other steps.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11169
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:01:00 -
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One of the best ways is probably to not vote for said candidate. Thinking back to previous elections and candidates using spambots to get their "message" out, hardly a candidate I'd ever consider voting for.
/c
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1738
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:32:00 -
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Hate to break the news to all the "you shouldn't post private convo's" but this is has been going on for years, since not long after EVE came out.
Plenty of cases where even TS of private conversations have been posted on the forums and everyone other than the victim has had a good laugh about it. This despite in most western countries, releasing audio recordings of a private conversation is a serious offence punishable by imprisonment.
The difference here? Well its a favored CSM member rather than some guy that got scammed. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6309
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:50:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Hate to break the news to all the "you shouldn't post private convo's" but this is has been going on for years, since not long after EVE came out.
Plenty of cases where even TS of private conversations have been posted on the forums and everyone other than the victim has had a good laugh about it. This despite in most western countries, releasing audio recordings of a private conversation is a serious offence punishable by imprisonment.
The difference here? Well its a favored CSM member rather than some guy that got scammed. Where is it a serious offense? I really want to know. I could see it being that way, if it was without the consent of any party in the private convo, but usually it is just one side of that convo going public with the recording he made and that is all the consent needed. I don't see anything illegal about that and I know it's in fact legal where I live. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1738
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:53:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Hate to break the news to all the "you shouldn't post private convo's" but this is has been going on for years, since not long after EVE came out.
Plenty of cases where even TS of private conversations have been posted on the forums and everyone other than the victim has had a good laugh about it. This despite in most western countries, releasing audio recordings of a private conversation is a serious offence punishable by imprisonment.
The difference here? Well its a favored CSM member rather than some guy that got scammed. Where is it a serious offense? I really want to know. I could see it being that way, if it was without the consent of any party in the private convo, but usually it is just one side of that convo going public with the recording he made and that is all the consent needed. I don't see anything illegal about that and I know it's in fact legal where I live. Its a serious offence is most developed western countries to covertly record a private conversation and make the conversation available to others. You in most cases must make the person being recorded aware that you are recording them. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1676
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:55:00 -
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Confirming VSM candidates are above the law...
....................Vote Azami CSM9!
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:01:00 -
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OP, did you report Jayne?
Did you wait for a CCP or ISD or GM or whatever response?
Or did you take straight to the forums?
ALSO,in regards to your CSM eligibility question, CSM says nothing (nor should it) about player morality. Remember when Mittani Escrow-scammed a guy that trusted him solely because of his position in the CSM? Because that's how assumptions work. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |
Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 16:24:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:If you look for the logs you'll find them. The OP tells you how to do it. I'll PM you guys the pastebin link directly though.
In any case this thread isn't about Jayne specifically but the principle of the matter. We've seen how it is when people in position get different rules applied to them. Regardless how people feel about the rules the principle remains.
Of course not, it's just you targeting that person specifically with baseless accusations without any evidence to support your claims other than "if you look for the logs on a site that you can submit any text on."
Sounds very unbiased. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
221
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Posted - 2014.02.24 16:47:00 -
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Quit tattle telling. A game is meant to be enjoyed. If this character nonsense is what your concerned about, then you obviously need something to do. There are more pressing matters such as the "Plex for Good" corruption that needs addressed. |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
216
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Posted - 2014.02.24 16:58:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:OP, did you report Jayne?
Did you wait for a CCP or ISD or GM or whatever response?
Or did you take straight to the forums?
ALSO,in regards to your CSM eligibility question, CSM says nothing (nor should it) about player morality. Remember when Mittani Escrow-scammed a guy that trusted him solely because of his position in the CSM? Because that's how assumptions work.
Nobody is talking about scamming people out of ISK. This is a EULA breach where a CSM candidate said in a conversation that they told other people their alt was someone else. You can spy and scam and steal all you want but doing actions that breach the EULA is something apart all together.
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:If you look for the logs you'll find them. The OP tells you how to do it. I'll PM you guys the pastebin link directly though.
In any case this thread isn't about Jayne specifically but the principle of the matter. We've seen how it is when people in position get different rules applied to them. Regardless how people feel about the rules the principle remains. Of course not, it's just you targeting that person specifically with baseless accusations without any evidence to support your claims other than "if you look for the logs on a site that you can submit any text on." Sounds very unbiased.
If they're the person that breached the rules, who do you want me to go after instead?
And by all means go ask him yourself if the logs are false. He plainly says he is said alt and then explains how he told others said alt was another person in order to gain personally. Simple as that. Are certain people allowed to be above the law due to their "fame?" |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4838
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:03:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Hate to break the news to all the "you shouldn't post private convo's" but this is has been going on for years, since not long after EVE came out.
Plenty of cases where even TS of private conversations have been posted on the forums and everyone other than the victim has had a good laugh about it. This despite in most western countries, releasing audio recordings of a private conversation is a serious offence punishable by imprisonment.
The difference here? Well its a favored CSM member rather than some guy that got scammed. Where is it a serious offense? I really want to know. I could see it being that way, if it was without the consent of any party in the private convo, but usually it is just one side of that convo going public with the recording he made and that is all the consent needed. I don't see anything illegal about that and I know it's in fact legal where I live. Its a serious offence is most developed western countries to covertly record a private conversation and make the conversation available to others. You in most cases must make the person being recorded aware that you are recording them.
This is generally not true except in places like Turkey , Germany and Australia. Very few countries actually require "all party consent" to record a private conversation like the 3 I mention above do. In the United States, only 12 or 13 states require all party consent, the other 37-38 do not.
The international norm is "as long as a party to the conversation knows it's being recorded it's ok to record and even publish". This is in regards to private conversations, not business or government communications.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:07:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Hate to break the news to all the "you shouldn't post private convo's" but this is has been going on for years, since not long after EVE came out.
Plenty of cases where even TS of private conversations have been posted on the forums and everyone other than the victim has had a good laugh about it. This despite in most western countries, releasing audio recordings of a private conversation is a serious offence punishable by imprisonment.
The difference here? Well its a favored CSM member rather than some guy that got scammed. Where is it a serious offense? I really want to know. I could see it being that way, if it was without the consent of any party in the private convo, but usually it is just one side of that convo going public with the recording he made and that is all the consent needed. I don't see anything illegal about that and I know it's in fact legal where I live. Its a serious offence is most developed western countries to covertly record a private conversation and make the conversation available to others. You in most cases must make the person being recorded aware that you are recording them. . . . The international norm is "as long as a party to the conversation knows it's being recorded it's ok to record and even publish". This is in regards to private conversations, not business or government communications. Exactly what I said.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4838
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:54:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Hate to break the news to all the "you shouldn't post private convo's" but this is has been going on for years, since not long after EVE came out.
Plenty of cases where even TS of private conversations have been posted on the forums and everyone other than the victim has had a good laugh about it. This despite in most western countries, releasing audio recordings of a private conversation is a serious offence punishable by imprisonment.
The difference here? Well its a favored CSM member rather than some guy that got scammed. Where is it a serious offense? I really want to know. I could see it being that way, if it was without the consent of any party in the private convo, but usually it is just one side of that convo going public with the recording he made and that is all the consent needed. I don't see anything illegal about that and I know it's in fact legal where I live. Its a serious offence is most developed western countries to covertly record a private conversation and make the conversation available to others. You in most cases must make the person being recorded aware that you are recording them. . . . The international norm is "as long as a party to the conversation knows it's being recorded it's ok to record and even publish". This is in regards to private conversations, not business or government communications. Exactly what I said.
No it is not. You were talking about Ts conversations. Those conversations tend to be recorded and posted by people who were party to the conversation ie not illegal in most of the developed world .
Destination Skillque was correct in that reply, then you posted again talking about how illegal it was. You are wrong.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
319
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:16:00 -
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CSM is and always has been a joke.
It is a popularity race where greasy neckbeards with the most friends get to hang out and circle jerk CCP a couple times a year.
Every single CSM panel has been a waste of time and space. This current one probably the worst of the bunch. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
596
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:07:00 -
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A CSM considering the broader player base....I like this.
I have a bridge in San Francisco for sale; cheap. It's orange. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
13950
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:02:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:CSM is and always has been a joke.
It is a popularity race where greasy neckbeards with the most friends get to hang out and circle jerk CCP a couple times a year.
Every single CSM panel has been a waste of time and space. This current one probably the worst of the bunch.
One of the greatest satisfactions of being on the CSM is watching the very people one is most afraid of gaining any influence in the game's direction talk themselves out of even trying.
Thank you Mario Putzo. Thank you so much.
1 Kings 12:11
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4842
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:CSM is and always has been a joke.
It is a popularity race where greasy neckbeards with the most friends get to hang out and circle jerk CCP a couple times a year.
Every single CSM panel has been a waste of time and space. This current one probably the worst of the bunch. One of the greatest satisfactions of being on the CSM is watching the very people one is most afraid of gaining any influence in the game's direction talk themselves out of even trying. Thank you Mario Putzo. Thank you so much.
It's also satisfying to watch friendless people rage at people just because they can make friends . |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:19:00 -
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This thread assures my vote for Jayne Fillon. Thank you, OP, for helping sway my decision toward this candidate. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
372
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:21:00 -
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Trolling is prohibited. Topic locked. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:31:00 -
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I just want to add one more thing to this.
If you feel, someone is breaking the EULA the correct way is to file a support ticket so the GM's can investigate your claim. ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons Interstellar Services Department @ISD_Eshtir | @ISD_CCL |
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