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Dr Vulix
Automata Labs
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:26:00 -
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Just a quick question in thread title. I would love to play EVE Valkyrie, but I am hearing rumors that Rift will be required. This seems to be a bit strange, especially as I haven't heard of Rift being ported to consoles, so I just wanted to ask and clear it up. Thanks in advance. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:32:00 -
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Dr Vulix wrote:Just a quick question in thread title. I would love to play EVE Valkyrie, but I am hearing rumors that Rift will be required. This seems to be a bit strange, especially as I haven't heard of Rift being ported to consoles, so I just wanted to ask and clear it up. Thanks in advance.
why is this strange? Valkaryie will be on pc, not console. nothing strange at all.
No confirmation if rift is required, but some of the devs play it without one as an article in another thread posted. You will prolly just have to wait till fan fest to get the juicy details, as I am sure that is when we will get more info on it. Prolly during the CCP Presents/EVE Keynotes |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
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Posted - 2014.02.26 02:33:00 -
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The news announcement I read said "Rift Exclusive"...So, I would say you want to play, you are buying a Rift. |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1396
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:21:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:The news announcement I read said "Rift Exclusive"...So, I would say you want to play, you are buying a Rift. The announcement said it was a Rift launch title... Nyan |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.02.26 20:32:00 -
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"Rift Exclusive" doesn't nessicarily mean "can not play without rift" it just means "We are designed for the rift, if the magic box 3000* vr headset comes out... we still only work for the rift"
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Steven Alfrir
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:37:00 -
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Can a Dev please make a clarification post when they have more info?
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:17:00 -
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Steven Alfrir wrote:Can a Dev please make a clarification post when they have more info?
if you read other threads they have stated they are not ready to make any announcements at this time. So you will prolly not get any clarification. My guess is we will not hear anything substantial until fan fest.
Its pretty much a wait and see at this point. |
Tornii
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:25:00 -
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I did not hear any clarification on this in Fanfest videos, but found a September 2013 interview with Hilmar that has this:
"CCP's sexy little Oculus Rift dogfighting game Eve: Valkyrie can be played without a virtual reality headset. People play it that way at the company's Icelandic HQ, CEO Hilmar Petersson told me - because there are only a few headsets to go around. 'So I mean it is possible,' he said.
It's also possible that Valkyrie could launch as a game that works both with and without VR. 'It could be a game like that, absolutely,' he nodded. And that theoretically opens it up to platforms other than Oculus Rift and PC - platforms like next-gen consoles (some of which are plotting their own VR headsets). 'We could do that, yes,' he smiled. 'That is a technical possibility.' Valkyrie's kind of quick-thrill multiplayer would work well there."
http://goo.gl/viwoJk Patience is a virtue. |
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CCP Karuck
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.21 08:19:00 -
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We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR. - Senior Programmer on EVE: Valkyrie / @SiggiGG |
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Lion Tevelanis
Boys in Plaid
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Posted - 2014.05.23 10:28:00 -
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CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR. bold given not many people will buy a vr headset given the prices and how useless the technology is at the moment. valkyrie will only succeed if its vr compatible not vr only, itll end up worse than dust given the player base will be unbelievably tiny |
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Torlin Valric
Minmatar Mining Division
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Posted - 2014.05.24 19:14:00 -
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Lion Tevelanis wrote:CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR. bold given not many people will buy a vr headset given the prices and how useless the technology is at the moment. valkyrie will only succeed if its vr compatible not vr only, itll end up worse than dust given the player base will be unbelievably tiny
It may or may not succeed only time will tell.
I think you'll be surprised at how many people will buy one and it will be much more after the dk2 is released. It would be different if it would cost 1000 euros, but it's the price of a top grapics card , and people have no problem buying it.
But it all depends how many (and how good) the games are that support the oculus. |
Minxee
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.24 19:31:00 -
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CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR.
Nothing personal then, but i ain't touching it until its playable on PC without the rift. |
Tornii
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.05.26 14:03:00 -
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CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR. Thanks for the info on this.
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I will definitely be buying the Rift (unless it gets in the way of gaming in some way as a result its association with Facebook) if the game itself delivers in terms of being a bit more than space shooter. Patience is a virtue. |
Dr Vulix
Automata Labs
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:20:00 -
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CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR.
This is going to keep a lot of people from playing Valkyrie on release, similar to how may wanted to play DUST514 but never got a PS3 to do so...Maybe Facebook will actually be useful in dropping the Oculust Rift price point down to a level where most people will consider buying it
Hope you guys have a successful launch! Cant wait to see how the EVE universe expands |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:02:00 -
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Having it VR only will be a good thing.
If it is the main launch title for the Rift (as it seems to become) it should get a lot of new players joining the EVE universe one the retail Rifts are released. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.05.29 10:22:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:Having it VR only will be a good thing.
If it is the main launch title for the Rift (as it seems to become) it should get a lot of new players joining the EVE universe one the retail Rifts are released. Just out of curiosity, what numbers of retail Rift sales you expect to see?
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Nova Serine
Republic University Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:13:00 -
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I will happily shell out for a Rift because the whole point of Valkyrie is to deliver a truly "next level" immersive experience. Without the Rift it's just another starfighter sim, albeit one with a pretty impressive pedigree. Two rolls of duct tape; one for my ship, and the other for unruly ride-alongs. |
Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:50:00 -
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If Valkyrie goes FB-goggles-only it's all a win for FB and the losers are: WE who can't afford the FB goggles or plainly reject FB from intruding our lives and CCP who will see a very limited player base. I think both FB and CCP are grossly overestimating the potential player base, unless the price of the goggles comes down. If instead it supports both with and without-FB-goggles, then we are all winners.
Time will tell? You have no time.
Ideology -ás-h-i-t -álist https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Gel%20Musana
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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:51:00 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Having it VR only will be a good thing.
If it is the main launch title for the Rift (as it seems to become) it should get a lot of new players joining the EVE universe one the retail Rifts are released. Just out of curiosity, what numbers of retail Rift sales do you expect to see?
Exactly. Ideology -ás-h-i-t -álist https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Gel%20Musana
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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:52:00 -
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Nova Serine wrote:I will happily shell out for a Rift because the whole point of Valkyrie is to deliver a truly "next level" immersive experience. Without the Rift it's just another starfighter sim, albeit one with a pretty impressive pedigree.
Well I will not, although I would play it if it was FB Goggle-less. But you know, I am sure I represent 0.01% of the people out there.
Ideology -ás-h-i-t -álist https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Gel%20Musana
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Zorrkinae vonHui
Gnostics of the Sense of Life Sectio Aurea.
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:05:00 -
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CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR.
please keep on working.... for VR-less Valkyrie! I dont want them.... non of them...
maybe ccp should stick with a company designing holoscreen-walls or such stuff.... but no glasses please.... lonley sitting in small corners.... I like it big way "there are million ways to death, but only one way leads to life" |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.06.17 15:40:00 -
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Lion Tevelanis wrote:CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR. bold given not many people will buy a vr headset given the prices and how useless the technology is at the moment. valkyrie will only succeed if its vr compatible not vr only, itll end up worse than dust given the player base will be unbelievably tiny
You obviously haven't got the privilege of playing a game with the rift yet. I know this because if you did you would never use the word useless to describe it. The Occulus Rift is the most amazing piece of video game technology ever. Bethesda games are awesome with the rift.
Also the rift is cheap. The last developer kit was $350, the retail product probably won't be much more than that. The hard part will be finding one, since they will probably be all sold out at launch and post-launch.
Gel Musana wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Having it VR only will be a good thing.
If it is the main launch title for the Rift (as it seems to become) it should get a lot of new players joining the EVE universe one the retail Rifts are released. Just out of curiosity, what numbers of retail Rift sales do you expect to see? Exactly.
Well since over 80,000 rifts have already been sold, and the product isn't even retail yet, I am betting a lot. |
Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:11:00 -
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Gel Musana wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:Having it VR only will be a good thing.
If it is the main launch title for the Rift (as it seems to become) it should get a lot of new players joining the EVE universe one the retail Rifts are released. Just out of curiosity, what numbers of retail Rift sales do you expect to see? Exactly.
Well since over 80,000 rifts have already been sold, and the product isn't even retail yet, I am betting a lot.[/quote]
Where is the evidence of the 80K FB goggles sold? And will the final product be even compatible with those goggles? Hardware tends to become obsolete quickly. Also who says that all goggles users will play eve Valkyrie and will like it? In addition it might be that 80K is already the whole of the niche market, those who can afford to spend some much on an add-on of this kind.
You see, almost everybody has a PC but almost nobody has or is going to have FB goggles. Now you will want to tell me that FB users will be brainwashed into using FB goggles... maybe. But if you don't have the money to buy it, would you prefer having dinner or enjoying your VR soup? Ideology -ás-h-i-t -álist https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Gel%20Musana
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Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3469
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Posted - 2014.06.19 12:07:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote: You obviously haven't got the privilege of playing a game with the rift yet. I know this because if you did you would never use the word useless to describe it.
Actually, I have. And it makes my head swim, it makes me dizzy and gives me headaches, it feels awkward sitting there and it messes with my periphery and real-world situational awareness. If someone's knocking on my door, or one of my cockatiels are having a nightfright or otherwise getting themselves injured, I'm not gonna know with this thing on.
On top of that, I'm autistic, and one of the wonderful things about autism can increased sensitivity in certain places to the point of having sensory overload. If I wear anything on my head or neck, it can cause me to have a massive sensory overload and freak me out.
At the end of the day, there are three games coming with similar themes. I'm interested in all of them, but I've only got time for one. For me, at the moment, Elite: Dangerous is already coming out on top over Star Citizen (and I've tried the dogfight module, I can see it being a great game for some, but not for me) and Valkyrie (which I haven't had the privilege of trying yet, but sincerely look forward to it - unless it can only be played on VR, then it goes into the "things that could have been cool" bin).
Elite doesn't require VR to play, which means I can play it now without having to buy new equipment I don't want. I don't think that making sure Valkyrie can be played without VR has to affect those that want to play it with VR, either, and I do want an opportunity to weight it up against its opponents, but if it's VR only, I won't even take a second look at it. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Gias Mohiam Oh'Mackey
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.06.21 06:35:00 -
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Well I know I'll be shelling out for VR, I just hope they get the mobius going I dont like FakeBook. And unfortunatly for all you anti-VR players out there CCP dont really care about making it easy to play, (cost of equipment) cause i've played Dust from the beggining and i'm only one of many MANY eve fans that shelled out $300 for a PS just to play Dust right away. CCP has record proof from Dust that eve fans will spend anything to play. Now im just speculating but ive read they are trying the mobius for the PlayStation&PC, which having it cross consol will guarantee CCP plenty of dedicated gamers for the VR universe to take off, especially since soo many other games will be available for the two consols on VR... I would much rather buy a sweet VR headset than one of thease new smart tvs...haha |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
71
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Posted - 2014.06.23 10:29:00 -
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Gias Mohiam Oh'Mackey wrote:And unfortunatly for all you anti-VR players out there CCP dont really care about making it easy to play, (cost of equipment) cause i've played Dust from the beggining and i'm only one of many MANY eve fans that shelled out $300 for a PS just to play Dust right away. CCP has record proof from Dust that eve fans will spend anything to play. And yet, DUST is a failure in the long term. One can have that last bit of hope that a company can learn from its mistakes. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
669
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Posted - 2014.06.23 17:51:00 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Gias Mohiam Oh'Mackey wrote:And unfortunatly for all you anti-VR players out there CCP dont really care about making it easy to play, (cost of equipment) cause i've played Dust from the beggining and i'm only one of many MANY eve fans that shelled out $300 for a PS just to play Dust right away. CCP has record proof from Dust that eve fans will spend anything to play. And yet, DUST is a failure in the long term. One can have that last bit of hope that a company can learn from its mistakes.
Dust problems were two fold, ofc minus the game play issues, 1) the integration to eve was half assed. So eve players did not give a crap about dust bunnies. You can't do that if you want them to be connected. It needs to be all or nothing.
and 2) though to a lessor degree, it as on a different platform entirely. This made things prolly a bit more difficult in terms of linking the games and updates. If it had been on pc and either stand alone, or funnly in the eve unverise, or just fully in eve, it might of done better. I don't personally think dust failed, I think it had a rocky and slow start, and would have taken way too long to gain tracton. not only that, but its cheaper for ccp to work on the game via a single platform (in this case with valk, morpheous can remain single player/multi player dog fights, and the rift version on pc can over time go full integration)
Valk either needs to be fully into eve so we care and walk to fork out for a rift (i'm going to anyway) or it needs to be stand alone so others can play and it can make money on its own.
I hope standalone, get the bugs out, then when they do the 3/1/1 and link it all together, it goes for full integration. 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Gias Mohiam Oh'Mackey
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.06.24 09:21:00 -
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I dont know how dust is a faliure there are just as many players on dust every day as on eve... So if a beta game is considered a falure for over 10k players a day they might as well as give up on the fully developed eve that took over 5 years to achieve that player volume. I think dust is one of their greatest flukes ever they doubled their fan base in 1 year with dust where eve couldnt hope to do that EVER no matter what updates they release for it. Eve players will always play eve thats why they created dust and now valk to attract the rest of the gamers out there. Ccp dont care about the eve players playing dust/valk CCP is already getting your money now they want everyone else's...lol |
Sinooko
Gespenster Kompanie Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:53:00 -
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CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR.
Please don't make a Dust style oops here! Long Live Eve Online! |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1164
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Posted - 2014.07.04 12:37:00 -
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Sinooko wrote:CCP Karuck wrote:We have already commented on this :) Valkyrie will be VR-only, at least for the initial release. It's simply too much work to design two version of a HUD and redesign features to support non-VR. Please don't make a Dust style oops here!
But... that's what it was from the beginning... o_O
Nobody ever wanted something else from EVE-VR... Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
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